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Enid Speedway
April 30, 2011 at 05:44:00 AM
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ENID SPEEDWAY MODIFIED RULES and Payout here

Modifieds we have a green light from Bret Root to help IMCA Modifieds and other Modifieds be able to race at Enid. Bret has been instrumental in helping in the past to get the Modified car count to over 30 every week in Dodge City and Liberal with our suppelmental rules that we came up with. We hope to have the same sucess in Enid. This will allow cars from all over to come race against each other on a more level play field. It worked in Liberal and Dodge there is no reason why it should not here in Enid.

Remember these are "Track Rules" they are only legal at Enid Speedway to help transition local cars to IMCA in 2012 and to help keep IMCA cars from all over competitive. The main thing is the rev limiter chip for 2011 and that is mandatory.

The IMCA Northern Sport Mods and Southern Sport Mods will be running together at Enid. We did this in Dodge for a Championship at the end of the year and it works. Southern Sport mod tire rule will be the same as the IMCA Mod rules we have here. You must have a legal right rear stamped IMCA TIRE to race at Enid - To get points from IMCA and track points you must have all 4 tires stamped.

We appreciate IMCA helping us help the racers for this transition and we are really excited to have IMCA in Enid.

Running the IMCA Northern SPORT MODS together with Southern Sport Mods will only increase car count. Running them together at the end of the Year IMCA NATIONAL SPORT MOD Championship for $3000 dollars to win is going to be huge. Last year in Dodge we had cars from as far away as Wisconsin, North Dakota and South Dakota. It was a great race with 3 Southerns with great drivers winning the top 3 positions but everyone was in the hunt.

We would hope to co-sanction with NCRA on these Southern Sport Mod races and will keep you posted in that progress. Co- sanctioning would help both organizations as well as the racers, and our main focus is moving ahead with IMCA as we have seen what it can do all across the US.

There are more updates on www.enidokspeedway.com




SprintCarFanRob
April 30, 2011 at 12:32:18 PM
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I saw the Southern sportmods have to compete with a northern "sportmod" earlier this year and I can't understand how anyone considers that fair to the southern sportmod guys. The northern "sportmod" was so much faster it was sad, and there was some of the best southern sportmods in the country at that race. I don't know how those guys feel about it but I just know it seems very unfair. I would be interested to hear how some of the southern sportmod drivers feel about competing against modifieds.


Can I change my name to ModifiedFanRob?

Glen Chapa
April 30, 2011 at 02:21:37 PM
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Its no different than some of the other tracks in Oklahoma. Would be a lot easier for the guy at Enid to have rules that let a wide variety of cars in a class cus for some reason some tracks around here always changing rules to these sport mods when further south you go better the count prolly cus each track is the same.


TALON22
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April 30, 2011 at 02:42:37 PM
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I AGREE I RUN THE NCRA SPORTMOD TOUR AND HAVE FOR THREE YEARS, I HAVE RACE WITH SOME OF I FEEL FASTED GUYS AROUND LOTS AND LOTS OF GOOD CARS. BUT THE NORTHERN SPORTMOD IS FAR FROM A SOUTHERN AND I THINK THAT THE SUSPENTION ADVANTAGE IS GREAT. BUT I GUESS THAT IS A CHOICE YOU HAVE TO MAKE IF YOU WANT TO GO TO ENID AND RACE. BUT I WOULDN'T GET TO EXCITED ABOUT IT. AFTER ALL IT IS ENID PROP WILL NOT EVEN HAPPEN.



jaydad37
April 30, 2011 at 05:15:17 PM
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I think it would be an absolutely horrid mistake for NCRA to change the rules to allow a northern sportmod to run in this series! Its a perfect series and would do more harm than good. Ive been to no less than 5 of these so called northern and southern sportmod shootouts and everyone of them have been laughable at best....

Maybe we could get the NCRA to sanction mud bogging and monster truck racing also...lol

The NCRA will do the "correct" thing here without a doubt!!!!


Jayson Ellis

Enid Speedway
April 30, 2011 at 10:28:48 PM
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From last years NOTHERN VS SOUTHERN IMCA MOD SHOOT OUT.........as you can plainly see the top 3 guys were in Southern Mods.

What is funny about this whole thing is the real racers with Southern Sport Mods are not on here griping about this - they are out getting ready to race.

There were over 3 times as many Nothern cars entered than Southern's last year. With this event coming to Oklahoma and Enid being the center of Sport Mods there will be an over whelming amount of Southern Sport Mods and with home track advantage and the other fact is this year guys like Rodney Sanders who drives and A Mod will not be allowed to race IMCA Sport Mods.

There is plenty to discuss here but honestly the duck dont float that the Southerns are at a disadvantage.

THE IMCA SPORT MOD NATIONAL CHALLENGE CHAMPIONSHIP
Dodge City, Kansas
1. Kelly Cross - Amarillo (Southern sport mod)
2. Rodney Sanders - Happy, Tx (Southern Sport Mod)
3. Travis Johnson - Enid, Oklahoma (Southern Sport Mod)
4. Tyler Sutton - Beloit, Kansas
5. Paul Underwood - Des Moines, Iowa
6. Greg Weichman - Wisconsin
7. Tyler Frye - Kansas
8. Matt Crowell - Kansas
9. Shane Stoudt - North Platte, Neb
10. Kyle Oberling - Kansas




jaydad37
April 30, 2011 at 11:52:09 PM
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uh oh its Mr. Delete me....

As I previously stated, I have been to these shows, at least 5, and all were laughable. Here is another reason it would be a mistake for NCRA get on board with these rules. I was part of a sportmod team in 2008 and 2009 and we looked forward to racing against the A mod guys that would race southern sportmods. Unlike in A mods, you cant get out dollared, if tech is being done correctly. Plus with these drivers in the class it is another draw for the fans. Enid had a 2500.00 to win sportmod show in 2008 and there were a lot of A mod drivers in it , even Rodney Sanders, and your top 3 finishers were all regular sportmod drivers. There is no advantage to taking the A mod drivers out of it unless you want to hurt your car count. Hope this isnt the rules Enid is going by this year... there are several A mod drivers in sportmods right now that wouldnt be allowed to race....what a rule... Last years NCRA sportmod champ, Todd Decker, used to run modifieds, Kip Hughes has a sportmod, Randy Timms, and Travis Johnson both race sportmods and A mods right now. What you going to tell these drivers that they are ineligble to race their cars?


Jayson Ellis

SprintCarFanRob
May 01, 2011 at 12:48:28 AM
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I don't claim to know more than I do, if the southern cars think they can run with the northern, then great, have at it. I just said the show I saw was not even close. Saw it with my own eyes so you won't tell me that I didn't. If I would have been one of the southern guys that watched that modified fly by on the top with the left rear tucked up under the drivers feet and the left front 2 feet off the ground I would feel like I was at a bit of a disadvantage. I was and still am curious how those drivers feel about the subject.That's all I was saying.


Can I change my name to ModifiedFanRob?

downtheroad
May 01, 2011 at 03:17:59 AM
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The NCRA is allowing northern sportmods run with them this year also. One thing needs to be check is that northern guys have on the g60 tire and not the Hoosier 500 tire.


downtheroad
May 01, 2011 at 03:27:29 AM
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Posted By: Enid Speedway on April 30 2011 at 10:28:48 PM

From last years NOTHERN VS SOUTHERN IMCA MOD SHOOT OUT.........as you can plainly see the top 3 guys were in Southern Mods.

What is funny about this whole thing is the real racers with Southern Sport Mods are not on here griping about this - they are out getting ready to race.

There were over 3 times as many Nothern cars entered than Southern's last year. With this event coming to Oklahoma and Enid being the center of Sport Mods there will be an over whelming amount of Southern Sport Mods and with home track advantage and the other fact is this year guys like Rodney Sanders who drives and A Mod will not be allowed to race IMCA Sport Mods.

There is plenty to discuss here but honestly the duck dont float that the Southerns are at a disadvantage.

THE IMCA SPORT MOD NATIONAL CHALLENGE CHAMPIONSHIP
Dodge City, Kansas
1. Kelly Cross - Amarillo (Southern sport mod)
2. Rodney Sanders - Happy, Tx (Southern Sport Mod)
3. Travis Johnson - Enid, Oklahoma (Southern Sport Mod)
4. Tyler Sutton - Beloit, Kansas
5. Paul Underwood - Des Moines, Iowa
6. Greg Weichman - Wisconsin
7. Tyler Frye - Kansas
8. Matt Crowell - Kansas
9. Shane Stoudt - North Platte, Neb
10. Kyle Oberling - Kansas



So ed no amod drivers will be allowed to race a sport mod in Enid

champ00
May 01, 2011 at 09:02:04 AM
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Heard Kelly Cross ran a A mod at TMS. so now the top 3 from Dodge cant run enid. Going to be hard list to keep up with.



bigdaddy07
May 01, 2011 at 09:16:19 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong here guys, but....

My understanding of the driver rule was that you couldn't run both Mod and Sportmod at the same event and was only to help keep the flow of the event progressing.

It seems to me that this would be like telling the Sprint Cup drivers they couldn't run the Nationwide series anymore.




jaydad37
May 01, 2011 at 10:12:17 AM
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is what im saying, why would you tell them they cant drive both classes? Ive seen brendon gemmill drive both in one day, Ive seen quite of few doing it this year in Texas at several tracks and they all are IMCA sanctioned... Kinda makes you go ummmm..... what is really going and who ever made such a rule did they think it through (more than 5 seconds). I have heard and seen a lot of silly rules since I started attending races back in the 70's but this one surely takes the cake!!!! This sounds like rule for the bomber class not a real rounded competitive class that is already established.

If you are friends with Enid speedway @ facebook dont say anything cuz Ed Beckley will delete you because no one is allowed their own opinion. He is not this great savior to Enid racing and everyone will see this in due time. He even stated that he will NOT have weekly racing at enid... This is because there is a huge profit to be made when you only have one show per month. The fans fill the stands and the drivers show up on sundays(not racing anywhere else). Its a sad sad shame but is how I guess it will go until someone stands up and outbids this guy.


Jayson Ellis

downtheroad
May 01, 2011 at 03:10:21 PM
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Posted By: jaydad37 on May 01 2011 at 10:12:17 AM

is what im saying, why would you tell them they cant drive both classes? Ive seen brendon gemmill drive both in one day, Ive seen quite of few doing it this year in Texas at several tracks and they all are IMCA sanctioned... Kinda makes you go ummmm..... what is really going and who ever made such a rule did they think it through (more than 5 seconds). I have heard and seen a lot of silly rules since I started attending races back in the 70's but this one surely takes the cake!!!! This sounds like rule for the bomber class not a real rounded competitive class that is already established.

If you are friends with Enid speedway @ facebook dont say anything cuz Ed Beckley will delete you because no one is allowed their own opinion. He is not this great savior to Enid racing and everyone will see this in due time. He even stated that he will NOT have weekly racing at enid... This is because there is a huge profit to be made when you only have one show per month. The fans fill the stands and the drivers show up on sundays(not racing anywhere else). Its a sad sad shame but is how I guess it will go until someone stands up and outbids this guy.



ED didn't make this rule up. Go to the imca web site it is their.



downtheroad
May 01, 2011 at 03:16:16 PM
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Posted By: bigdaddy07 on May 01 2011 at 09:16:19 AM

Correct me if I am wrong here guys, but....

My understanding of the driver rule was that you couldn't run both Mod and Sportmod at the same event and was only to help keep the flow of the event progressing.

It seems to me that this would be like telling the Sprint Cup drivers they couldn't run the Nationwide series anymore.



The rule is if a driver drives a a-mod. You can't drive a sport mod at imca sanction event.




Enid Speedway
May 01, 2011 at 04:28:01 PM
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Enid Speedway Southern Sport Mod rules are on this link.

Basically the rules are the same as always except the right rear must be IMCA Stamped to race and to get full IMCA points for the track and Natl points you must run all four legal tires.

Todd Decker assured me yesterday he would have tires for sale at Dirt Performance and at the track.

Todd will also have fuel available on site.

 



jaydad37
May 01, 2011 at 07:43:46 PM
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Posted By: downtheroad on May 01 2011 at 03:16:16 PM

The rule is if a driver drives a a-mod. You can't drive a sport mod at imca sanction event.



so if you have the correct right rear tire then it doesnt matter what else you drive? or it doesnt matter as long as you dont drive an a mod that day? or just race NCRA and it will never be a problem?

let me know kevin for I know you read the rule book inside out...


Jayson Ellis

jaydad37
May 01, 2011 at 07:46:08 PM
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Posted By: Enid Speedway on May 01 2011 at 04:28:01 PM

Enid Speedway Southern Sport Mod rules are on this link.

Basically the rules are the same as always except the right rear must be IMCA Stamped to race and to get full IMCA points for the track and Natl points you must run all four legal tires.

Todd Decker assured me yesterday he would have tires for sale at Dirt Performance and at the track.

Todd will also have fuel available on site.

 



im fairly sure if you want IMCA regional and national points dont you need to purchase an IMCA license? also will there be motor claims at Enid this year as there are in IMCA sanctioned events.


Jayson Ellis


downtheroad
May 01, 2011 at 10:03:53 PM
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Posted By: jaydad37 on May 01 2011 at 07:43:46 PM

so if you have the correct right rear tire then it doesnt matter what else you drive? or it doesnt matter as long as you dont drive an a mod that day? or just race NCRA and it will never be a problem?

let me know kevin for I know you read the rule book inside out...



Jay the way i understand the rules is.

to get national or state IMCA points you must run all 4 tires imca stamped tires.

you can't hold a sport mod licence if you drive a A-mod. (going to be hard to police) but read the article below that was on the imca web site.

C RAY will not let let you drive two class of cars at a ncra event either.

I haven't heard if you have to purchase a licenese to run at Enid? The licence is $90

Maybe Ed can answer this question.

No Modified drivers allowed in Southern SportMods this season

Feb 22, 2011 Comments Off by Rick

VINTON, Iowa – Modified drivers won’t be allowed to compete in the Smiley’s Racing Chassis Southern SportMod division this season, regardless of whether they compete in IMCA sanctioned or non-sanctioned events.

“Our main objective is that the drivers who benefit from higher paying special events for SportMods are the drivers who have supported the division during the season,” explained IMCA Vice President of Operations Brett Root. “It’s not fair to them that a Modified driver can borrow a SportMod, race and go home with $2,000.”

IMCA announced last January that the 2010 season would be the last in which drivers could compete in both the Modified and Southern SportMod divisions. The Modified-Karl Chevrolet Northern SportMod combination has never been allowed.

Modified-Late Model, Modified-Stock Car and SportMod-Stock Car or Hobby Stock license combinations will be permitted again in 2011. Mach-1 Sport Compact drivers may not compete in any other division.

“We can keep track of drivers racing at sanctioned events using race reports submitted to the home office. We will have to use other means to know who’s racing non-sanctioned Modifieds,” Root said. “Our posi­tion is that if a driver is racing a Modified, licensed or not, we will not issue them a license to compete in a sanctioned SportMod event.”

Root, Competition Director Tom Gutowski and ButlerBuilt South Central Region Director Davey Plato will attend a number of Southern SportMod specials during the season to ensure Modified regulars are not interloping for bigger potential paydays.

Among the specials getting more attention will be the Southern SportMod Nationals, during the Labor Day Weekend at Boyd Raceway.

“We will try to be as objective as we can. We realize that for whatever reason, there will be a number of drivers going from a Modified to a SportMod,” Root said. “We’ll do our best to keep track of who is racing what and where and address guidelines as the season progresses.”

News

 



bigdaddy07
May 02, 2011 at 08:22:17 AM
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I'm not really concerned too much with drivers crossing over. I, for one would, want the best competition I could get to race against. This way, when I won, I could have a better sense of accomplishment.

My bigger concern with IMCA is the difference in rules between the North and South sport mods. Why have 2 separate sets of rules? Have 1 set that way the North guys can go south (and vice versa) and know they would be on a level playing field. That was the spirit in which the "original" modified class was intended.

I like the sport mod class. It seems to be a return to the mods of old where the driver meant more. It seems the mods are more of a open wheel late model now.





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