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way2fast72
May 11, 2011 at 08:18:15 PM
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Posted By: choate7c on May 11 2011 at 06:54:09 PM

david is right this is happening all to often anymore. but im mainly concerned with enid,the way the schedule is off and on aswell as rules. i dont know what the problem is but i do know it is a problem, it just seems as if the racing is taking 3 steps back at enid. im not a fan with how things are being handled there but there is nothing i can do about it. seems like alot of fans and drivers are looking elsewhere. bad deal all the way around



You know what, I am gonna place some blame on the promoter, either you have a plan in place to make it work, or dont schedule stuff you cant deliver on.As everyone can see, there are no races going on in Enid and kinda gotta wonder if there will be? Maybe the fairboard got what they were after? maybe they didnt wanna see the track survive?



jaydad37
May 12, 2011 at 07:21:36 AM
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Posted By: way2fast72 on May 11 2011 at 08:18:15 PM

You know what, I am gonna place some blame on the promoter, either you have a plan in place to make it work, or dont schedule stuff you cant deliver on.As everyone can see, there are no races going on in Enid and kinda gotta wonder if there will be? Maybe the fairboard got what they were after? maybe they didnt wanna see the track survive?



is my opinion that the fair board is guilty of taking all the concessions, which is way messed up cuz the concessions can help carry a venue on a few bad nights... Way2fast72, your absolutely correct here about not having a realistic plan in place and not delivering on scheduled events. Its a damn shame thats for sure. I really feel bad for the racers that cant afford to travel and the fans that are missing out. The USMTS Series is a HUGE fan draw and would have packed the stands for Enid. Maybe they can pencil in a few more lawn mower derbys...lol shouldnt have said that


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dirtrack234
May 12, 2011 at 11:56:15 AM
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This is from Enid Speedways Website as of Today. Not facebook. I dont know what to think about Enid having a season now?

Schedule


The Enid Speedway Schedule is on hold. Check back with for further updates.


JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.


way2fast72
May 12, 2011 at 09:20:36 PM
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Posted By: dirtrack234 on May 12 2011 at 11:56:15 AM

This is from Enid Speedways Website as of Today. Not facebook. I dont know what to think about Enid having a season now?

Schedule


The Enid Speedway Schedule is on hold. Check back with for further updates.



I have to agree with David, It is what it is....



jaydad37
May 13, 2011 at 07:40:00 AM
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LMAO right now....

just seen the enid website and it says trying to have a once a month show on sundays...

reason for cancelling USMTS ??? Didnt want the fans to have to pay 20.00 to get in....

Seriously, does anyone believe for one sec that it was cancelled due to what the fans would have paid? Even sounds like all events are cancelled at Enid, hopefully he will cancel the IMCA stuff to since he only racing once a month. He will only be able to get in 5 or 6 races....

This is why i said what i said when i said it....


Jayson Ellis

dirtrack234
May 13, 2011 at 02:48:16 PM
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The fairboard at Enid needs to wake up and go ahead and give the track to C Ray Hall. If we are going to have ANY races in Enid it looks like Mr. Hall is the way to go.


JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
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tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.


Enid Speedway
May 13, 2011 at 05:39:35 PM
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This message was edited on May 13, 2011 at 05:42:02 PM by Enid Speedway

You guys that have all the answers amaze me.

There are definitely some of you on this post that "get it" and I appreciate you more than you can know. You are right I do not have to do this - I have plenty to do.

Jimmy and Jay Dad you two get together and stay at Holiday Inn Express or something....because all of a sudden did ya get smarter and have answers to all of racing problems??

Remember.....May thru June last year NO ONE was running the track and it was going away. It was shut up and the weeds were growing up waist high when I came to town with promise to do what I could do. I still have that promise but there are days I just want to walk away - but I still believe we can have a good local show and bring cars in on Sunday's and give racers a place to race and keep Enid Speedway alive and with 4 bux a gallon gas it's not going to be a cake walk for sure.

There is no way our crowds (that means more than 1500 people) can afford $15 to $20 tickets. We have to keep them in mind when we are thinking about making this track have a bottom line in the black not RED! We have to make money to keep that place up and running.

Maybe that is only once a month ~ but big crowds and lots of cars racing for good purses is what
is good for Enid and good for Racing!

That CRay chose to bid against me was very timely - only after I had showed how to make it sucessful did or ANYONE else want any part of that place and who could blame them. I am over all that now and acutally think it was kinda funny.

By the way CRay I still want to sanction those sport mods and make that place rock and help the Sport Mods which I think are the future for sure!

The big question is ...turn back time to last summer..In May and June and all the way til late July when I put that first race on.......Where were the Jimmy Minters and Jay Dad's and the Choates then???

You guys sat on your computers and now have all the answers did not do anything to help get racing back in Enid. Nope~ but now you have all the answers and want to throw darts at me. Go for it so far you have missed my heart because I am still here and still have the I want to . . for the time being anyway.

I would like to thank my racers and friends and spectators for helping us get this place open the last couple of weeks and sticking with me.

Have a great Friday the 13th! Smile Ain't Racing Fun?!!

Seeya,
Ed Beckley
yah from Enid Speedway!



dirtrack234
May 13, 2011 at 05:50:11 PM
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Ed, Why do you get all butt hurt when someone calls you on your lies? If your going to have a race keep the schedule you put up! Don't tell us your going to have all these great things and then nothing at all! You saw at the fairboard meeting that there is more them me, Jayson and Choates that see right through your bull.


JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
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tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

dirtracert74
May 13, 2011 at 07:32:42 PM
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I live in Enid spent 60 dollars in gas last weekend to get to 81 speedway to watch mars late models, in 2weeks going to the show me 100 will cost about 350 bucks So whats wrong with paying 20 or 25 for a ticket to stay in Enid for a good show???? Just my thought!!!!!




jaydad37
May 13, 2011 at 07:47:27 PM
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Posted By: Enid Speedway on May 13 2011 at 05:39:35 PM

You guys that have all the answers amaze me.

There are definitely some of you on this post that "get it" and I appreciate you more than you can know. You are right I do not have to do this - I have plenty to do.

Jimmy and Jay Dad you two get together and stay at Holiday Inn Express or something....because all of a sudden did ya get smarter and have answers to all of racing problems??

Remember.....May thru June last year NO ONE was running the track and it was going away. It was shut up and the weeds were growing up waist high when I came to town with promise to do what I could do. I still have that promise but there are days I just want to walk away - but I still believe we can have a good local show and bring cars in on Sunday's and give racers a place to race and keep Enid Speedway alive and with 4 bux a gallon gas it's not going to be a cake walk for sure.

There is no way our crowds (that means more than 1500 people) can afford $15 to $20 tickets. We have to keep them in mind when we are thinking about making this track have a bottom line in the black not RED! We have to make money to keep that place up and running.

Maybe that is only once a month ~ but big crowds and lots of cars racing for good purses is what
is good for Enid and good for Racing!

That CRay chose to bid against me was very timely - only after I had showed how to make it sucessful did or ANYONE else want any part of that place and who could blame them. I am over all that now and acutally think it was kinda funny.

By the way CRay I still want to sanction those sport mods and make that place rock and help the Sport Mods which I think are the future for sure!

The big question is ...turn back time to last summer..In May and June and all the way til late July when I put that first race on.......Where were the Jimmy Minters and Jay Dad's and the Choates then???

You guys sat on your computers and now have all the answers did not do anything to help get racing back in Enid. Nope~ but now you have all the answers and want to throw darts at me. Go for it so far you have missed my heart because I am still here and still have the I want to . . for the time being anyway.

I would like to thank my racers and friends and spectators for helping us get this place open the last couple of weeks and sticking with me.

Have a great Friday the 13th! Smile Ain't Racing Fun?!!

Seeya,
Ed Beckley
yah from Enid Speedway!



okay now let me tell you something Ed Beckley,

I only called you on what was nothing more than a lie that you told me and you got all bent out of shape because i dont see you as the GOD that saved Enid!!! I see you for what you really are....

You say some really untimely statements... Like you cant charge the 15.00 or 20.00 at the gate to your fans so you cancelled the USMTS show and other shows I suspect also. My guess is, with you being the BIG TIME PROMOTER that you are, that you knew when you put these shows on your schedule what you would have to charge at the door. So it just seems like more of your hypocracy at best to me. (really dont think that gas rising $0.30 per gallon since you announced USMTS was coming, had any bearing on that show being cancelled).

As for NCRA sanctioning shows with the sportmods, Im very happy that your clouded mind has all of a sudden cleared and seen what really supports your racing at Enid!!! Hopefully CRay will be the awesome guy he is and allow you to have a few shows. Good thing for you, the fairboard didnt go by the vote huh????

I dont like nor respect anyone who blows smoke up everyones ass... I really dont care if you like me or not... Ive been around racing my whole life and most of it at Enid Speedway. Yes, you came in here and had a few races last year and you profitted well, as you should have!

If you think what Ive said is throwing darts then so be it Mr Ed Beckley but you cant find one post that I made that was a lie. I wish you the best in your promotions business and look forward to seeing Enid Speedway getting back to CAR RACING!!!

P.S. am glad that we have a forum such as this so we cant get DELETED for stating nothin more than an opinion or calling out ones lies!!! Thanks to David Smith Jr.

 


Jayson Ellis

dirtrack234
May 13, 2011 at 08:12:08 PM
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I am officially on the delete me Enid Speedway Facebook delete club. He even deleted my 11 year old son. Just for asking why we did'nt have the Street Stock Nationals. LMAO! Oh well it's not like we were getting any truth from his Facebook page anyways.


JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

Glen Chapa
May 13, 2011 at 09:22:42 PM
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Once again, way to show your support for your local track. Good luck to yall in your 2011 racing.


Enid Speedway
May 13, 2011 at 10:01:47 PM
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Posted By: Glen Chapa on May 13 2011 at 09:22:42 PM
Once again, way to show your support for your local track. Good luck to yall in your 2011 racing.


Still waiting on my question ? Why not spend some time answering because I am sure we all went to know what all you have done to help keep racing in Enid?

The big question is ...turn back time to last summer..In May and June and all the way til late July when I put that first race on.......Where were the Jimmy Minters and Jay Dad's and the Choates then???

You guys sat on your computers and now have all the answers did not do anything to help get racing back in Enid.

So do not get BUT HURT as you said .........how about telling us all what all you did to help racing in Enid there Mr Minter? and Jay Dad?

Don't rant you do that enuff why not just give us that huge list of what you two do to help racing in Enid in the last year???



jaydad37
May 14, 2011 at 05:44:12 AM
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Posted By: Enid Speedway on May 13 2011 at 10:01:47 PM

Still waiting on my question ? Why not spend some time answering because I am sure we all went to know what all you have done to help keep racing in Enid?

The big question is ...turn back time to last summer..In May and June and all the way til late July when I put that first race on.......Where were the Jimmy Minters and Jay Dad's and the Choates then???

You guys sat on your computers and now have all the answers did not do anything to help get racing back in Enid.

So do not get BUT HURT as you said .........how about telling us all what all you did to help racing in Enid there Mr Minter? and Jay Dad?

Don't rant you do that enuff why not just give us that huge list of what you two do to help racing in Enid in the last year???



are you serious right here?

Ive done all Im capable of Mr. BIG TIME PROMOTER, including personally emailing every driver that I have an email for (which is over 300 drivers) asking them to come race at ENID SPEEDWAY. I did it for the last promoter as well. Do you really believe that you can twist and turn this into something else, why? I have said nothing that is a lie or that Im ashamed of at all.

Your not the GURU that saved ENID SPEEDWAY!!! You are just some guy from texas who happened to have enough cash to come and make races happen once a month in enid and then leave and take your profits back to texas.

I would like to ask you several questions since this is what you are attempting to turn this into but you have yet to answer even one TRUTHFULLY!!!

Im sure "we all want to know what you have done to keep racing in Enid" is nothing but your way of trying to change the real subject here which is YOU!!!

So i wonder why the fairboard chose you after CRay had a matching bid and won the vote by racers by a HUGE margin (Ed you had one vote, yes you are the racing GOD).

Everyone knows who I am Ed and they will tell you this..." I dont stir the shit pot just to smell the shit" Im straight forward and say it like it is... I grew up as a boy watching racing in Enid, I raced there in the late 80's and early 90's and have been part of a many many cars out there in some form. Ive seen good promoters and Ive seen bad promoters come and go from Enid Speedway... when i see something that I believe isnt right then I will speak on it, if I see something being done that deserves applauding then I do that also! Just as I did when you started racing once a month last year!!! You made promises last year, of a full racing slate this year, if everyone would just come out and support you. Well once again, you had plenty of support(even the fairboard) and you havent delivered on one thing that you promised. Lets see what has been delivered by you.... Oh yeah once a month racing... You got your feelings butt hurt because I mentioned to you as my opinion these words.... "why wouldnt you just keep hosting NCRA shows for the sportmods when they were your bread and butter last year" and you let that get to this. There is nothing that you can do or say that can hurt my feelings Ed Beckley and you shouldnt take ones opinion or even critic so personally... Is really comical though that exactly what got me to message you to begin with is exactly what you are wanting to do now....

Just one more thing and this is serious... How long do you expect for these people to kiss your ass as the guy who saved Enid Speedway??? Can we stop hearing about Dodge City, I reckon if it was all that then you would still be there and not turning your wheels here...

Oh just so you know, I will send an email with your raceday info to the 300 plus drivers that i have email for... Im not here to see you fail at all. I want your last year here to be a good one.

Jayson


Jayson Ellis

dirtrack234
May 14, 2011 at 06:39:59 AM
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Ed if you look at other topics that were posted on this site last year I was a big supporter for you! The only thing that has changed is that nobody can believe anything you say anymore! You told all of us of all these great races that you had scheduled then when someone goes against you and puts a bid on the track you take all the races away? You can't answer a question with out getting all butt hurt. Jayson is right you are not the God of racing promoters you might think you are! I even helped you at the track the first race you had. But I never came back to help you because of the way I watched and heard the way you treated your help and some of the woman. I new if I came back and you talked to me that way It wouldn't of turned out the way your other help takes it. But I was still there for ALL of the shows you had, I was just a paying costumer from then on.


JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
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is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.


bigoboy
May 14, 2011 at 04:49:14 PM
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So is there or is there not gonna be races next Sunday the 22nd

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hey man we were there, i was there racing, also built pure stock for my little cousin to drive, we had about 10-15 people with us every weekend .you know the big group that sat on the south end in the same spot for 25 years. whom all drove an hour to get there.., so maybe you should turn back in time and look at that before you start calling "the choates" out on supporting the track/putting money in your pocket

i never claimed to " have the answers" in fact it clearly says "i dont know what the problem is but i do know its a problem" meaning my opinion is i think there is a problem at enidspeedway, i gathered that opinion from the countless friends i have made at enid and what they have said about how they are not happy with how the racing is being conducted. but comparing yourself to c ray hall would be like comparing me to jimmy jonson. again my opinion.

The thing is we(the Choates) have to travel no matter where we choose to race. so we might as well drive somewhere enjoyable, where we are treated well,with set rules and schedule and tech like most tracks have. im a paying customer and expect to be treated just like that no more or no less

we had a blast on friday the 13th at brill and yes racing was fun, he thanked us multiple times for being there.we plan to return after we support ncra at beaver on saturday.one things for sure i wont kiss anyones ass to race at there track



hudsonparts
May 15, 2011 at 01:06:51 PM
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I agree with you Mr. Choate no one should have to kiss a promotors ass to race there , if anything else with not as many racers out there with the economy the way it is , looks like to me the promotors ought to be doing the ass kissing to get the cars there at there track, alot easier to go race and have fun when you feel like a promotor appreciates your business, one thing about appreciating your business is like you said , have set rules week to week,and a schedule to go by,plus i agree with you Ed is not near the promotor C Ray is, look at all Cray has done for racing in this part of the country, with NCRA , the Hutch Nationals and the countless Specials he has had and the number of years day in and day out he has done this, being in business for myself as well as you know , you have to stick with your word and follow thru with what you promise your customers, because believe it or not customers pay attention, just screw one customer over and your name is mud all over town......Enid proves my point, and thats to bad it could be brought back to some good saturday night races , nice facility, but most of the races and fans around here i have talked to say the same thing you said...and like your family my family has supported enid racing for over 50 years.




way2fast72
May 15, 2011 at 02:22:28 PM
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I agree with you Mr. Choate no one should have to kiss a promotors ass to race there , if anything else with not as many racers out there with the economy the way it is , looks like to me the promotors ought to be doing the ass kissing to get the cars there at there track, alot easier to go race and have fun when you feel like a promotor appreciates your business, one thing about appreciating your business is like you said , have set rules week to week,and a schedule to go by,plus i agree with you Ed is not near the promotor C Ray is, look at all Cray has done for racing in this part of the country, with NCRA , the Hutch Nationals and the countless Specials he has had and the number of years day in and day out he has done this, being in business for myself as well as you know , you have to stick with your word and follow thru with what you promise your customers, because believe it or not customers pay attention, just screw one customer over and your name is mud all over town......Enid proves my point, and thats to bad it could be brought back to some good saturday night races , nice facility, but most of the races and fans around here i have talked to say the same thing you said...and like your family my family has supported enid racing for over 50 years.



Ok, well I dont know where to even start on this one.. Lets see, where were the Choates with their support of Enid speedway last year. I built a factory stock and came out to race after 5 years of not racing, plus built a sport mod thinking there would be racing at Enid this year.I dont even want to hear that we werent part of the support system Enid so badly needs.As JD stated, he built a pure stock for my nephew to drive, so maybe not many, but we did have 3 cars there. Maybe 3 cars dont mean anything to a big promoter such as Ed????I for one think I can see right through your bullshit.Not gonna drag any names into this, but you had a pretty big modified team that had your back for a while, and not hearing much from them about the great Mr Ed and how he was gonna save the speedway.

This is how I see it. Mr Beckley, I think you are a user. You want everyone to come in and help, then you want to hear the praise of saving the speedway. If Im not mistaken you were looking for plumbers, electricians, etc to donate there time instead of hiring the work done. I really think you thought you would come in here and all the equipment needed to run the race track would be here for your needs.I think people are finally getting wise to your tactics and this deal is falling apart?

Hopefully in the future, you will pack up and quit, kinda like the deal at Dodge City, if things were so good there, why did you leave? Maybe those people got wise to you also? We Choates have been racing at Enid Speedway since 1989, we have seen lots of promoters come and go, some were very good and some not so good, but they did put on weekly shows. I have never seen one that requires the amount of ass kissing that you do.

In my opinion a GOOD promoter wouldn't be wasting their time on the computer worried about what a racer is saying about them, they would be doing the work to promote their track. They know how to run track. They also know that there are other opinions out there and respect them, but do what is best for the track, and for the racers, not just themselves.

Oh yeah, I gotta admit. I was a little butt sore when I was accused of not showing our support. LOL

 



way2fast72
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Ok, well I dont know where to even start on this one.. Lets see, where were the Choates with their support of Enid speedway last year. I built a factory stock and came out to race after 5 years of not racing, plus built a sport mod thinking there would be racing at Enid this year.I dont even want to hear that we werent part of the support system Enid so badly needs.As JD stated, he built a pure stock for my nephew to drive, so maybe not many, but we did have 3 cars there. Maybe 3 cars dont mean anything to a big promoter such as Ed????I for one think I can see right through your bullshit.Not gonna drag any names into this, but you had a pretty big modified team that had your back for a while, and not hearing much from them about the great Mr Ed and how he was gonna save the speedway.

This is how I see it. Mr Beckley, I think you are a user. You want everyone to come in and help, then you want to hear the praise of saving the speedway. If Im not mistaken you were looking for plumbers, electricians, etc to donate there time instead of hiring the work done. I really think you thought you would come in here and all the equipment needed to run the race track would be here for your needs.I think people are finally getting wise to your tactics and this deal is falling apart?

Hopefully in the future, you will pack up and quit, kinda like the deal at Dodge City, if things were so good there, why did you leave? Maybe those people got wise to you also? We Choates have been racing at Enid Speedway since 1989, we have seen lots of promoters come and go, some were very good and some not so good, but they did put on weekly shows. I have never seen one that requires the amount of ass kissing that you do.

In my opinion a GOOD promoter wouldn't be wasting their time on the computer worried about what a racer is saying about them, they would be doing the work to promote their track. They know how to run track. They also know that there are other opinions out there and respect them, but do what is best for the track, and for the racers, not just themselves.

Oh yeah, I gotta admit. I was a little butt sore when I was accused of not showing our support. LOL

 



This was a post on Enid speedways facebook page earlier this year. "wants to let everyone know the Enid Speedway will be up for grabs for the 2011 race season. they are supposed to accept bids right ater the first of the year. nows is your chance to keep enid speedway racing on the night you want and every week if you want good luck"

then is says. " i will not accept or seek another contract. it will be good this summer to have a weekend off. good luck to the friends i have made.merry christmas and a happy new year. Damn Mr Beckley, why didnt you just leave it alone?




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