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ohiosprintfan
February 11, 2009 at 10:50:42 PM
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With the results of Florida speed week over, I have a question to ask true sprint car fans. Is the dominance of one team funded with big time NASCAR money good for the sport that we love?




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February 11, 2009 at 10:52:54 PM
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no



outlaw_fan_7_8
February 11, 2009 at 11:17:02 PM
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even if it was Craig Dollansky i would say no. but that's racing period. 1 team usually dominates. once every few years you might get a good points battle but not often enough. i wish the wins were spread out more and we had 2-4 drivers with a shot going into the world finals. wouldn't that be fun?




ohiosprintfan
February 11, 2009 at 11:30:20 PM
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Posted By: outlaw_fan_7_8 on February 11 2009 at 11:17:02 PM

even if it was Craig Dollansky i would say no. but that's racing period. 1 team usually dominates. once every few years you might get a good points battle but not often enough. i wish the wins were spread out more and we had 2-4 drivers with a shot going into the world finals. wouldn't that be fun?



Very much so, I think many fans feel the same way. Fans do not want to pay their hard earned money to have to watch a battle for second place.



lynnthurmanphotos
February 12, 2009 at 12:23:00 AM
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Posted By: ohiosprintfan on February 11 2009 at 11:30:20 PM

Very much so, I think many fans feel the same way. Fans do not want to pay their hard earned money to have to watch a battle for second place.



Yes.I'm not a Schatz fan but he was winning before he had Tony's money behind him. The other guys out there need to step up.



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Posted By: ohiosprintfan on February 11 2009 at 10:50:42 PM

With the results of Florida speed week over, I have a question to ask true sprint car fans. Is the dominance of one team funded with big time NASCAR money good for the sport that we love?



Was one team run by Karl Kinser for about 30 years good for the sport?




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Posted By: ohiosprintfan on February 11 2009 at 10:50:42 PM

With the results of Florida speed week over, I have a question to ask true sprint car fans. Is the dominance of one team funded with big time NASCAR money good for the sport that we love?



Their "dominance" (even with all that NASCRAP $$$$) still doesn't compare to what Karl and Steve did during the 80's and 90's without that kind of financial backing. That my friends was DOMINANCE and yet the sport grew and grew.



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February 12, 2009 at 12:47:31 AM
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I think in these bad times every team should be soo fortunate to have sponsers that support them regardless of who they are! I must admit I am jealous that NASCAR seems to get all the high dollar sponsers and the fact that they are sponsered by Sprint is just a slap in the face because the World of Outlaws should be sponsored by Sprint! I have actually had people ask me about the Sprint Cup and they thought it refered to sprint cars, lol! Actually I am shocked when people away from the track actually know what sprint cars are, they usually think I watch the 4 bangers or some other kind of fender cars on dirt, lol! I have a sprint car sticker on the back window of my car and my friend thought it was a SPACESHIP- no kidding!- I couldn't stop laughing because she was serious!

Oh yeah I got off topic, back to Schatz. I think Schatz is an awesome talent and a great racer, unfortunately he doesn't have a great personality! He seems like he is upset when you want to talk to him after the race and just isn't that friendly! I don't even go to his trailer anymore because I would rather spend time with the racers that appreciate their fans and are happy to talk to them! I know some people don't care for Jason Meyers, but he has always been really nice and easy to talk to and I still consider him to be one of our locals because that is where we first met him racing with the GSC. I would have to say that Schatz is the new Kinser as far as domination on the track is concerned!


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racin buddy
February 12, 2009 at 01:44:27 AM
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the question should be "is schatz winning all the time good for 410 winged sprint car racing?"

any driver that can put the sport further on the map and butts in the seats could be said to be good for the sport. i believe schatz would have more fans if he was not so dominant. everyone likes a winner. not everyone likes one winner. schatz will always have his circle of die hard supporters, and that is fine. every driver should have a fan base. the thing is, in my opinion, these days the sport needs more than just one driver that totally dominates. the fans are wanting exciting racing with the outcome not decided till the end of the race. in that regard, most of the time, schatz does not satisfy. sure karl and steve had their dominating years, but there was also better car turnout that provided more of a mix and more of a show. also steve started from the back a heck of a lot more often than donny does. also it was not called the "steve and sammy show" just because of one driver. it is not called the "donny and ____" show now is it? it is not even the "donny and joey" show. it is all about one driver, and that gets old. it can be said that steve stunk up the woo for quite a few years and was not good for the sport at times because of it. but as i said those were different times with better car counts and in some areas, less competition for the fans entertainment dollar. having a driver like schatz is defiantly good for the sport. having one driver, any one driver dominate to the point it turns folks off is not. and that is my opinion.




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February 12, 2009 at 05:50:13 AM
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I think that enforcing the rules and teching motors and fuel would be good for the sport. No mulligans in qualifying either!


410 Sprint Car Racing Fan Forever

grizzley71n
February 12, 2009 at 07:19:23 AM
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Posted By: lynnthurmanphotos on February 12 2009 at 12:23:00 AM

Yes.I'm not a Schatz fan but he was winning before he had Tony's money behind him. The other guys out there need to step up.



I agree, I'm not a Donny Schatz fan either and he was dominating before going to TSR. He's just that good. How long did Steve and Karl dominate? We just need to give Schatz the credit he deserves. JMO



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February 12, 2009 at 07:36:49 AM
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Posted By: ohiosprintfan on February 11 2009 at 10:50:42 PM

With the results of Florida speed week over, I have a question to ask true sprint car fans. Is the dominance of one team funded with big time NASCAR money good for the sport that we love?



 Did Schatz's TSR team post a profit last year?   With all the wins and a WoO championship and sponsorship all over the place I would be curious to see the bottom line because if he isn't making money then nobody in WoO is 


More weight, more regulation, more similarity in the 
cars.... that will ensure plenty of thrills for years 
to come.  Only the most average talent behind the 
wheel will be needed with such awesome equipment on 
the track!
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Posted By: artie langes habit on February 12 2009 at 07:36:49 AM

 Did Schatz's TSR team post a profit last year?   With all the wins and a WoO championship and sponsorship all over the place I would be curious to see the bottom line because if he isn't making money then nobody in WoO is 



If you want to see see a bunch of average talent and equipment, go to a local race without Donny.   Saying I want to see inferior performance instead of something truly impressive is silly.  The paint scheme has nothing to do with the performance anyways.  He dominated before Tony got involved.


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

springfieldrace1
February 12, 2009 at 07:52:40 AM
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Donny still has to drive the car Tony's money doesn't drive the car. There has been plenty of other teams that have had great money behind them that didn't win...IE the DUDE



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February 12, 2009 at 07:58:52 AM
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Surely, some of these posts we've been getting are meant to be a joke...


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February 12, 2009 at 08:44:57 AM
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Posted By: ohiosprintfan on February 11 2009 at 10:50:42 PM

With the results of Florida speed week over, I have a question to ask true sprint car fans. Is the dominance of one team funded with big time NASCAR money good for the sport that we love?



I see this as two seperate issues.

Dominance by one team has always been the case in sprint car racing with a few exception that prove the rule.

NASCAR money good for the sport. I personally don't believe his team is that much better funded than the other top teams. I bet Bud has more beer money than tire shine has and then TSR has the 20 car and nobody has more $$$$ than the 21 has in the bank.



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February 12, 2009 at 09:04:53 AM
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Posted By: dad13 on February 12 2009 at 08:44:57 AM

I see this as two seperate issues.

Dominance by one team has always been the case in sprint car racing with a few exception that prove the rule.

NASCAR money good for the sport. I personally don't believe his team is that much better funded than the other top teams. I bet Bud has more beer money than tire shine has and then TSR has the 20 car and nobody has more $$$$ than the 21 has in the bank.



Supposedly, the budget on the 15 car is less with TSR owning that when the Schatz's owned the team.



throttlejohnson
February 12, 2009 at 09:09:18 AM
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Are you serious?  I've seen this dumb post on here for few days now, stop the non-sense. 10 years ago Donny was getting lapped by some of these guys, it is his time. Like springfield said, he still has to drive the car! I think it is great for the sport everybody wants to beat him, and most want to see it happen! How can that be bad? I honestly think this year will be different, if Schatz wins, he'll have to earn it this year. My pic is Dollansky and not cause of kasey's money, because he'll be healthy with a good team.  

Please refrain from silly posts in the future.


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Posted By: ohiosprintfan on February 11 2009 at 10:50:42 PM

With the results of Florida speed week over, I have a question to ask true sprint car fans. Is the dominance of one team funded with big time NASCAR money good for the sport that we love?



The thing is, there are 4 teams funded with big time NASCAR money out there, and he is spanking the other 3 right along with the rest of them. Does the money help? Sure it does. But it is not the sole reason for his dominant start.

 


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February 12, 2009 at 10:54:12 AM
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Posted By: springfieldrace1 on February 12 2009 at 07:52:40 AM

Donny still has to drive the car Tony's money doesn't drive the car. There has been plenty of other teams that have had great money behind them that didn't win...IE the DUDE



You're an idiot. If I remember correctly the DUDE won plenty of races in the 20 car (including a WoO championship to go along with a coupl Knixville Nationals titles). That car has been nothing better than a top ten car since the DUDE got canned.

Other than that statement about the DUDE I agree with your post. Donny still has to drive the thing, no matter how much money is in it, he still has to make it go fast.





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