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watkinsgrady
February 13, 2009 at 09:31:49 AM
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Posted By: ohiosprintfan on February 11 2009 at 10:50:42 PM

With the results of Florida speed week over, I have a question to ask true sprint car fans. Is the dominance of one team funded with big time NASCAR money good for the sport that we love?



I would say that any team, low budget or high is good for the sport. What would you like to see just teams that only spend a given amount of money, then what do you do when one team gets hooked up and starts winning the majority of the time ban them? Why is it so hard for fans in this sport to appreciate talent when it rises to the top, enjoy it don't try to knock it down. Every team that fields a car has one thing in mind WIN when someone is dominating it raises the level of everyone else.

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Posted By: supaschatz on February 12 2009 at 08:11:29 PM

Got proof that rules aren't being enforced (insinuating that cheating is occuring)? Didn't think so. Come back when you have something that substantiates your argument. Making stabs in the air hoping that Schatz can be stopped by the officials so that Meyers has some kind of prayer in hell of winning a title isn't going to cut it. Nice attempt though.



oh good God man... your naivete cannot be genuine; can it?

when Ben and Tom have pissed away all of Vicis' monies intended as working capital and successfully run this series into the ground, someone like Tony Stewart may be the only hope for a national tour. It certainly won't be that in-bred, banjo pickin', headache powder pushin' Richard Petty!

the proverbial hand will not be bitten.

back on topic... by no means am i a schatz fan however; how can one say with any degree of informed certainty that he's bad for the sport? sure he wins, too much for my liking, but who spends more money that TSR? that coupled with undeniable talent lends itself to Ws.

people love winners just as much as they do underdogs... and i've yet to hear any new fans complain or be turned off by those that do.

just one man's humble opinion.

 

 


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Posted By: ohiosprintfan on February 11 2009 at 10:50:42 PM

With the results of Florida speed week over, I have a question to ask true sprint car fans. Is the dominance of one team funded with big time NASCAR money good for the sport that we love?



hellz ya he is! he brings loot to the sport! we need the rest of pusscar to get on the tsr and kkr bandwagaon and hook a brotha up. umm jg um purdue....um um umm... a challenge you all. lets go to phoenix i run your car and turn a better lap or an with in 2% you hook me up. i'll bring the chics wink for real tho get off your wallets you got there from here!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Apollo
February 13, 2009 at 11:23:53 AM
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Rest of the teams just need to step there programs up.



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February 13, 2009 at 11:58:06 AM
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Ricky Warner, Schatz's crew chief, was on The Full Throttle Racing Show last Tuesday interviewed by John Katich. His interview started at 32 minutes into the show. He summed it up quite well.

If your not aware, you can move the slide to 32 minutes if you don't want to listen to the entire show.

http://www.dirtvision.com/Archive/2009/January/Full_throttle_2_10_09.aspx


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Posted By: kurtwinker10w on February 13 2009 at 11:10:53 AM

hellz ya he is! he brings loot to the sport! we need the rest of pusscar to get on the tsr and kkr bandwagaon and hook a brotha up. umm jg um purdue....um um umm... a challenge you all. lets go to phoenix i run your car and turn a better lap or an with in 2% you hook me up. i'll bring the chics wink for real tho get off your wallets you got there from here!!!!!!!!!!!!



Donny does not bring the loot to the sport. Tony does. Kasey does. Donny's lack of personality (with the exception of coming off like an A-hole most the time) wouldn't attract a sponsor. Winning would help with that though. It's a lot easier to win when you're a good driver with great equipment.


Someone also said that Bud has more money than Amour All. I disagree. Do you really think they give Kasey that much money with what they put into his NASCAR team? They obviously funnel some money down but I'd say A.A./Bass Pro Shops is much more likely to throw more money at the Sprint Car teams than Bud does.




xxhighside2020xx
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The thing that is hurting 410 racing. Seems to me you look at the USAC racing and they are healthy. O wait that is cause they race. They can pass. They dont follow the leader, and they teach drivers how to drive. Take the pizza tins off and the real drivers will come out.



dirtybeer
February 14, 2009 at 02:44:42 AM
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Remember,sprint cars are pretty simple machines.It's not like Schatz has a bunch of gizmos hanging on his car that no one else does.At the start of the season all the top teams stuff is new or freshly rebuilt,I see no edge until further into the season when the lesser funded teams have to run thier engines more races,and or can't put on new tires as much as the high funded teams.If a part on a sprint car is working good,replacing it with a new part isn't gonna make the car any faster,it's just nice to have all those spares that the big money teams have.Schatz is just damn good whether some want to admit it or not.



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Posted By: xxhighside2020xx on February 14 2009 at 02:06:00 AM

The thing that is hurting 410 racing. Seems to me you look at the USAC racing and they are healthy. O wait that is cause they race. They can pass. They dont follow the leader, and they teach drivers how to drive. Take the pizza tins off and the real drivers will come out.



When was the last time a driver came from the tail to win in USAC? There's plenty of passing, people like you just choose to ingore it to meet your own agenda.




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Posted By: Racefan22_7 on February 13 2009 at 09:22:29 PM

Donny does not bring the loot to the sport. Tony does. Kasey does. Donny's lack of personality (with the exception of coming off like an A-hole most the time) wouldn't attract a sponsor. Winning would help with that though. It's a lot easier to win when you're a good driver with great equipment.


Someone also said that Bud has more money than Amour All. I disagree. Do you really think they give Kasey that much money with what they put into his NASCAR team? They obviously funnel some money down but I'd say A.A./Bass Pro Shops is much more likely to throw more money at the Sprint Car teams than Bud does.



I'm not disagreeing with you, but why would AA/Bass Pro throw more money down than Bud? I don't see how you can validate that. Bass Pro and AA sponsor Tony's teams in NASCAR, so what would be the difference?



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February 14, 2009 at 09:16:14 AM
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It's amazing how some folks want it both ways....

Kinser's won over 530 features in his career, and Schatz has won over 80....how can I guy be "bad: for the sport and the other driver a "good" guy?

It's time to let it go, folks....When Schatz dominates the win column for the next 20 years like Steve did for the first 25, then you can ask that question, but until then, please give it up.......


Chuck.....

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Posted By: supaschatz on February 14 2009 at 08:58:10 AM

When was the last time a driver came from the tail to win in USAC? There's plenty of passing, people like you just choose to ingore it to meet your own agenda.



Not sure about the last time, but last year Jerry Coons Jr. was sent to the tail at Manzanita and won the race I think it was the Copper on Dirt. One helluva race to watch passing and wheel to wheel racing all over the track.

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"just one man's humble opinion." Now is that funny coming from Faster Pussycat, or what!! LOL

The answer is YES.

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This message was edited on February 14, 2009 at 01:04:59 PM by uncleD

Over & over & over again… Same dance, different song. This post’s chart topper, “Oh So Funny, Its’s NASCAR’s Money” rests on top of other previous smash hits like;

#2 “T' Corporate Corruptor”

#3 “Gotta Be A Cheater”

#4 “Ode 2 TSR”

#5 “Promoter’s La La Ditty’”

#6 “That Tainted Tire,”

#7 “Miss Methanol, She’s So Hot”

#8 “Two Ford Pistons an’a Dodge Cam”

#9 “Action Traction”

#10 “These Belts Are So Tight”

Each closely share the “I don’t like Donny Shatz" common theme. Allow me to interrupt the jukebox and provide items to further the discussion with my fellow internuts.

- The #15 WoO sprinter runs a virtual throttle pedal that’s able to travel through the floor pan.

- Late last year, BALCO Labs created a steroid, code name “ArmorAll” that eliminates all wind resistance and releases all mud.

- It so happens to be a J&J disguised in Maxim clothing.

- My Dad can beat up your Dad.

Trust me, I have back up to all, but don't me for ask for it. My tips are sealed.

à la prochaine fois.



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This message was edited on February 14, 2009 at 07:06:53 PM by jackhole22

Well, to me as far as being good for Sprints...

I say, Yes it is. Why, because someday it would be nice to have many many many many drivers operating on the same kind of budget they do. Have like 30 cars on the WoO tour competing for 24 spots with a large budget. It would help the sport get where it SHOULD be..On every weekend ESPN or Speed TV with millions of fans.

The big budgets have to start some place. Not like it will all come at once. Now we just need guys like Almedinger, Schrader, Wallace and Yeley to follow suit. Own a team as a hobby and we have like 9 teams then with big budgets.

So, yeah, it might not seem like it helps and not fare but hopefully with time it will create more NASCAR driver interest for a hobby team and we can have many many cars with the same thing.


*Edit: Ofcourse we would have our own Drivers with a good deal too. Guys being able to get teh same equipment as the big budget guys without help from Sell out nascrap guys. I mean really, most drivers do it for fun and a living. but drving a nascar????? How is that even fun compared to being in a sprint. All about the mighty $$$ and selling yourself out


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Posted By: Racefan22_7 on February 13 2009 at 09:22:29 PM

Donny does not bring the loot to the sport. Tony does. Kasey does. Donny's lack of personality (with the exception of coming off like an A-hole most the time) wouldn't attract a sponsor. Winning would help with that though. It's a lot easier to win when you're a good driver with great equipment.


Someone also said that Bud has more money than Amour All. I disagree. Do you really think they give Kasey that much money with what they put into his NASCAR team? They obviously funnel some money down but I'd say A.A./Bass Pro Shops is much more likely to throw more money at the Sprint Car teams than Bud does.



ur right the millions that donny and his dad spent had nothing to do with his domination before tsr. thats my point. there money attracted BIG money. the story is typical guys like myself like wayne that dont come from money have to bust our nuts just to get a crack. i had family to take care of when i was hot and i have never been able to land a well funnded team since. in fact that team was fattfro who wayne drives for now. i won them there first race with all ther leftover parts that were in the corner. we bought wings. thats it. the rest was left over from utech wich was kerr 99 equipment. it was old then. bottom line we need every last sponsor even if they dominate the sport. i can beat donny with a low budget. i've already designed the car and i'm fully recovered from my head injury time will tell. it takes loot duh!


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Posted By: kurtwinker10w on February 22 2009 at 02:11:09 PM

ur right the millions that donny and his dad spent had nothing to do with his domination before tsr. thats my point. there money attracted BIG money. the story is typical guys like myself like wayne that dont come from money have to bust our nuts just to get a crack. i had family to take care of when i was hot and i have never been able to land a well funnded team since. in fact that team was fattfro who wayne drives for now. i won them there first race with all ther leftover parts that were in the corner. we bought wings. thats it. the rest was left over from utech wich was kerr 99 equipment. it was old then. bottom line we need every last sponsor even if they dominate the sport. i can beat donny with a low budget. i've already designed the car and i'm fully recovered from my head injury time will tell. it takes loot duh!



Take a breath my man you going to have a heart attack!



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Posted By: kurtwinker10w on February 22 2009 at 02:11:09 PM

ur right the millions that donny and his dad spent had nothing to do with his domination before tsr. thats my point. there money attracted BIG money. the story is typical guys like myself like wayne that dont come from money have to bust our nuts just to get a crack. i had family to take care of when i was hot and i have never been able to land a well funnded team since. in fact that team was fattfro who wayne drives for now. i won them there first race with all ther leftover parts that were in the corner. we bought wings. thats it. the rest was left over from utech wich was kerr 99 equipment. it was old then. bottom line we need every last sponsor even if they dominate the sport. i can beat donny with a low budget. i've already designed the car and i'm fully recovered from my head injury time will tell. it takes loot duh!



Is it Winker or W_nker.

Seems like you took another hit to the head.

When was it that you were hot, I just can't seem to remember your name and number.




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Posted By: raeccrash778 on February 22 2009 at 08:52:55 PM

Is it Winker or W_nker.

Seems like you took another hit to the head.

When was it that you were hot, I just can't seem to remember your name and number.



here we go again another weenie/hater. just say it fool it wanker. thats what they called me when i was winning races in australia and was on the cover of speedsport as well as had a feature article in sprincar and midget. between 00-03 i won alot and was competitive wherever i went. i semiretired to taked care of my mother who was dieing of cancer. i did it at the peak of my career. i just won the victorian sprint car title at premier speedway in au. (a google search wood do you wonders duesh) b4 my mom asked me to quit racing to help take of her the buisness and the race track i was moving to ohio and living in a steve mox's appt. he had already talked to tony s about me and i was next. i told steve of my situation with my mom(mydad had already died from cancer) and steve understood i had to to stay in kenosha. he told me to call him when i had my buisness handled. my mom died and i then called mr mox back. roughlly six months had gone by. he told me that they had nothing for me and had not heard from me so they had to make a buisness decision. that decision was josh wise. wise got my spot. now you know idiot. what else you wanna know. foool wink i do tv commercials too. bet you didn't know that either. i was a big star in australia and never got a chance to finish that up here cuz i did the rite thing. took care of a loving caring dieing women. did i say idiot yet. wheeewww almost had that heart attack ; )


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Posted By: raeccrash778 on February 22 2009 at 08:52:55 PM

Is it Winker or W_nker.

Seems like you took another hit to the head.

When was it that you were hot, I just can't seem to remember your name and number.



gotta love that google. i love kevin ekert too. he's like the sprintcar google book. remember the good time we had down there brotha. then once at the noodle. there was that cover that got ya fired. cool name tho. man sometimes when you talk they try to kick you out of places. Mr Winker peace and love noname wannabe

Kurt Winker Headed to Australia
Author : Paul Kuyawa

Kurt Winker, Kenosha, WI is living proof that dreams can certainly come true. After announcing recently that he is going to run with the Gumout World of Outlaw Support Series in 2002, Winker is packing his bags to race in Australia.

This has been a dream of Kurt's for some time. "I knew there were drivers that had the chance to do it but I never thought I would be chosen to represent my country, racing in Australia," Winker said.

The second generation sprint car pilot has pretty much been on cloud nine since finalizing the deal to drive Peter Genner's, Genner Construction sprinter in some of Australia's biggest events. The car he will be driving is backed by Gough and Gilmour Caterpillar Lift Trucks. This is a two-car team with the other car being handled by the car owners daughter, Louise Genner.

This is not just your average sprint car team, for the past several seasons, Danville, IN pilot Danny Smith has been handling the Genner sprinter in Australia. "Knowing that a chauffeur with the credentials of Danny Smith has been driving this car really has me pumped up, because having raced against Danny here in the states I know he drives only good equipment. This car is an angle stacked JB Enterprises car and it just happens that I have driven this type of car for several seasons so I don't think I'll need a bunch of time getting acclimated to that particular car," Kurt said.

Of course there are variables that will come into play. The Australian sprint cars run a little bit smaller engine, 372 cubic inches instead of the 410 that are so prevalent in the states, but Winker just recently drove a 360-sprint car for Randy Sippel and liked that ride a lot. The race tracks Kurt will be running on, of course he has never seen, nor has he saw much of the competition either.

"I have run with most of the outlaw guys that will be down there, but as far as the local stars from Australia I have only read about their great careers down under. I hope to gain their respect and be able to show them that Wisconsin does indeed put out very good race car drivers.

Peter Genner has been involved in racing since the age of 17 and truly enjoys his roll as a car owner. " My Dad puts the best equipment under this team that he can, he loves bringing an American over to drive one of our cars and we are truly looking forward to having Kurt Winker pilot our number 16 JB/ Gough and Gilmour race car," said Louise Genner. Louise pilots the team car and is currently in her third year of sprint car racing. She describes Australian sprint car racing as a "totally awesome experience" and treasures her time behind the wheel.

Winker hopes that his initial appearance will lead to more sprint car racing in Australia in the future. With the Winker team theme being "The American Way" I guess it would be hard to pick a more deserving driver to carry America's colors than Kurt. "There are several people who were really instrumental in me getting this chance to run the Genner car. John Boy Sullivan, really stepped up and gave me an excellent recommendation as a driver. I know spending several years driving his cars did not hurt my chances either, I have also gotten support from numerous folks who's word in the sprint car community is very well respected, Winker said.

Kurt has numerous A-main wins in the upper Midwest against the tough Interstate Racing Association. Kurt put a string of three straight A-main wins in a row together a fete that has not been done since he did it in 2000. Winker has also won against the Great Lakes Outlaw Super Sprints, the Star Trac Sprints as well as many open competition shows. He is no stranger to victory lane, and hopes to add an Australian victory to his resume'.

Winker has also locked up some very good product deals for the upcoming season, some of which he is taking with him for the Australian Tour. Kurt has deals from Super Shox, Duralite Wheels, Saldana Racing Products, Winker Engineering, KSE Racing Products, Winters Performance, Weiland Racing Enterprise, Gleason Equipment, Crower, Hepfner Racing Products, Scott Performance, Behling Racing Equipment and JB. Just recently announced is was that Kurt will be a factory driver for American Racer Racing Tires. All of these manufactures have wanted to get their product out on a national tour and with us going to try the Gumout deal they have seemed only too happy to come on board and believe me I am very proud to be associated with these fine companies.

The American Way number 10W team will represent them well," Kurt said. " Knowing that I will be going to race where such American greats like Steve Kinser, Jack Hewitt, Danny Smith, Donny Schatz, Jimmy Sills, and other American racing legends have competed is truly an honor for myself, my team, and all the people behind the scenes that have helped me, Kurt said . By competing in Australia, Winker will be eligible to race in the Kele World Challenge held each year during the Knoxville Nationals.

This will give Winker another opportunity to showcase his talents as a wheel man during America's biggest race. I look forward to representing my country well, and showing all of Australia that the United States sprint car drivers treat the opportunity to race before them as a true honor, I truly do,"said a humbled Winker. Kurt will be departing the United States on December 24 for at least a ten-race deal in Australia, culminating with the fifty thousand dollar to win race at Parramatta, this is Australia's answer to the Kings Royal.

Kurt knows if there is one show in which he hopes to shine it is this one. With the race car being sponsored by Gough and Gilmour what better way for a 26 six year old from Wisconsin to shine than an up front finish at one of Australia's biggest sprint car races.


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then cum back to life! now thats living baby! do a 
good dead and help your neighbor. dream as if you live 
forever and live as if you'll die today. always 
remember where you came from. ;)



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