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Topic: OBAMA'S THE BIGGER JOKE! Only, I ain't laughing. Too scary a thought....
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nonwing bill
September 19, 2008 at 10:48:30 PM
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Go, Kenny, Go.



cholley
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September 20, 2008 at 05:24:59 PM
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I am going to give you my opinion why I will vote for McCain…Lets say you are in a big race…$50,000.00 to win… you work your butt off on your car and you are fortunate enough to win. But wait, the promoter says good for you! but what about the poor guys who didn't win. I am going to take 60% of your winnings along with a large percentage of 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place and giving it to the poor 10 guys that finish last. Just because they did not succeed like you did. If you think that is fair, you should vote for Obama because he wants to do just that. Take the money that people have worked hard for and give it to the people that do not have as much. Life is not fair. It is not the American way. It is socialism. Charity should be voluntary, a choice. Americans are the most generous people in the world. That is one of the main reasons I will be voting for the McCain -- Palin ticket.



BIGFISH
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Posted By: nonwing bill on September 19 2008 at 10:48:30 PM

Go, Kenny, Go.



Hey Bill, I found that post after yours simply amazing but entertaining none the less..LOL Do you know that guy? Could he even win a race in that mythical land of purse redistribution...

And now for your listening pleasure I bring you John Prine. Well I guess it won't be so pleasurable for you Reds but sometimes boy's, the truth hurts. Suck it up, you'll be OK.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kTctirEPns

FARM AID IS ON RIGHT NOW> TURN IT UP!!!

Kenny


Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

OKCFan12
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September 20, 2008 at 08:36:23 PM
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numbers dont lie.

http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race

what this suggests is that a massice portion of hillary supporters werent voting for her because of the real issues at hand. but either because of sex, race, personality. its getting pathetic the way this country goes about its political; process like its a funkin american idol or dancing with the stars show - we may as well text our election votes.

this group of dem swing voters - i think they are stupid. literally. jmho.

everyone seems very apt to watch the economy go to hell in a handbasket with mccain and reds. maybe we deserve exactly what we get. the entire country wants anyone/someone else to solve the problems - but then does everything within their power to ignore the true issues and the aspects of each of them. i think it was remarkable that obama overcame the racial obsticles he did and beat clinton. he and his campaign just outsmarted the heck out of her and hers. but sadly i'm not so sure he can overcome much of the racism to win the big one. its not like 90% of the country is racist. we have come a long ways as a country. but its still a substantial # and in a race as close as what we have now..........yeah

i think its sad the pathetic way in which women have exploited themselves in the last year. so many stupid clinton supporters cried sexism as why she lost - when in reality it was her own mistakes, lack of positive campaign organization, and well - they were outsmarted where it mattered with delegates and caucases. but the oldest nominee ever who is very likely to croak picks a radical unethical woman with less experience than obama (hard to do) who is probably not even qualified to effectively manage a local burger king - and they flock just because of her sex. all these females crying sexism ----- are exactly what they falsely accuse everyone of being. i better stop before i say what i really think............


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wouldchuck could chuck would

smoman
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September 20, 2008 at 11:20:51 PM
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This message was edited on September 20, 2008 at 11:55:51 PM by smoman
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Posted By: OKCFan12 on September 20 2008 at 08:36:23 PM

numbers dont lie.

http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race

what this suggests is that a massice portion of hillary supporters werent voting for her because of the real issues at hand. but either because of sex, race, personality. its getting pathetic the way this country goes about its political; process like its a funkin american idol or dancing with the stars show - we may as well text our election votes.

this group of dem swing voters - i think they are stupid. literally. jmho.

everyone seems very apt to watch the economy go to hell in a handbasket with mccain and reds. maybe we deserve exactly what we get. the entire country wants anyone/someone else to solve the problems - but then does everything within their power to ignore the true issues and the aspects of each of them. i think it was remarkable that obama overcame the racial obsticles he did and beat clinton. he and his campaign just outsmarted the heck out of her and hers. but sadly i'm not so sure he can overcome much of the racism to win the big one. its not like 90% of the country is racist. we have come a long ways as a country. but its still a substantial # and in a race as close as what we have now..........yeah

i think its sad the pathetic way in which women have exploited themselves in the last year. so many stupid clinton supporters cried sexism as why she lost - when in reality it was her own mistakes, lack of positive campaign organization, and well - they were outsmarted where it mattered with delegates and caucases. but the oldest nominee ever who is very likely to croak picks a radical unethical woman with less experience than obama (hard to do) who is probably not even qualified to effectively manage a local burger king - and they flock just because of her sex. all these females crying sexism ----- are exactly what they falsely accuse everyone of being. i better stop before i say what i really think............



We still don't have much of a choice this election or more than likely wont in the future either.The ones that should run never will,they're to smart to get involved in politics to start with.Why be a puppet to any damn party that does not care about the interest of U.S citizens?.Look how many of the past administrations have sold US out.You almost have to go as far back as the Woodrow Wilson admin that actually did ANYTHING for the PEOPLE.Our political system needs to be rebuilt,borders closed,NAFTA blown up,Nuclear power plants built,etc,and so on.OKC if reds are the way to go then where did the money come from for the checks that were sent to all who qualified for one last summer?Hint-our great grandchildren will be paying for that one,it is now a bigger part of the nat dept.China will be a thorn in our side for a long time.Blues- just look at their past track record.The electoral college is another problem.With the technology we have WHY?Lets fire Lanny and build our racetrack back.Screw the political B.S.


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nonwing bill
September 20, 2008 at 11:49:36 PM
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Kenny,

How do folks out your way feel about the election? With McCain hailing from Arizona and Sheriff Joe running amok in Maricopa County, are the Republicans as strong as it appears in your great state?

At least you don't have to deal with our Honorable Senator Jim Inhofe. What a joke.



OKCFan12
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080919/pl_bloomberg/algtsxrdilsu


How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

cholley
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September 21, 2008 at 02:39:45 PM
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David Letterman on President Bush
No matter what your political convictions are this is an eye opener....
What a thankless people we are!!!

David Letterman on President Bush
(Surprising)

David Letterman wrote this; it's the David we don't often see....

' As most of you know I am not a President Bush fan, nor have I ever
been, but this is not about Bush, it is about us, as Americans, and it
seems to hit the mark
'The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some
Poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true given the
source, right?
The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans are unhappy with
the direction the country is headed and 69 percent of the country is
unhappy with the performance of the President. In essence 2/3 of the
citizenry just ain't happy and want a change. So being the knuckle
dragger I am, I started thinking, 'What are we so unhappy about?'

A.. Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7
Days a week?

B.. Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in the
summer and heating in the winter?

C.. Could it be that 95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job?

D.. Maybe it is the ability to walk into a grocery store at any time
and see more food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?

E.. Maybe it is the ability to drive our cars and trucks from the
Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean without having to present
identification papers as we move through each state?

F.. Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find
along the way that can provide temporary shelter?

G.. I guess having thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from
around the world is just not good enough either.

H. Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up
and provide services to help all and even send a helicopter to take you
to the hospital.

I.. Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home.

J.. You may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of a
fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top
notch equipment to extinguish the flames, thus saving you, your family,
and your belongings.

K.. Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a
burglar or prowler intrudes, an officer equipped with a gun and a
bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack
or loss.

L.. This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or
militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90% of
teenagers own cell phones and computers.

M.. How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we
enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?

Maybe that is what has 67% of you folks unhappy.

Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the
world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S. , yet has a great
disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed
people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don't
have, and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good
Lord we live here.

I know, I know. What about the president who took us into war and has
no plan to get us out? The president who has a measly 31 percent
approval rating? Is this the same president who guided the nation in the
dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an economy
out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every
name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled ungrateful
brats safe from terrorist attacks? The commander in chief of an
all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me?

Did you hear how bad the President is on the news or talk show? Did
this news affect you so much, make you so unhappy you couldn't take a
look around for yourself and see all the good things and be glad? Think
about it......are you upset at the President because he actually caused
you personal pain OR is it because the 'Media' told you he was failing
to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind every day. Make no mistake about
it.

The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in
many cases may have died for your freedom. There is currently no draft
in this country. They didn't have to go. They are able to refuse to go
and end up with either a 'general' discharge, an 'other than
honorable' discharge or, worst case scenario, a 'dishonorable' '
discharge after a few days in the brig.

So why then the flat-out discontentment in the minds of 69 percent of
Americans?

Say what you want but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds it leads
and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with
blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling lemonade at the corner?
The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They
offer what sells, and when criticized, try to defend their actions by
'justifying' them in one way or another. Just ask why they tried to
allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book about how he didn't
kill his wife, but if he did he would have done it this way......Insane!

Turn off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the
bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as
country. There is exponentially more good than bad. We are among the
most blessed people on Earth and should thank God several times a day,
or at least be thankful and appreciative.' 'With hurricanes, tornados,
fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing
up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu
and terrorist attacks, 'Are we sure this is a good time to take God out
of the Pledge of Allegiance?'
David Letterman

Please keep this in circulation. There are so many people who need to
read this and grasp the truth of it all this is the truth no matter who worte it cholley

 



Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U
September 21, 2008 at 03:29:09 PM
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Posted By: BIGFISH on September 19 2008 at 08:50:15 PM

Try to spin it anyway you like but the truth is our boys know what's going on and that's why they are supporting Obama and NOT McCain. The fact that McCain has voted against bills that would help our servicemen at home and in the theatre is not a talking point it'a fact. That's why are men are voting against him. If you choose to underestimate the intelligence of these men by there age and such that's your choice, but it doesn't say much for you or your confidence in the men who are fighting for YOU.

1st.."During the course of Sen. John McCain's speech at the Republican National Convention, I noticed some protesters waving a placard that said: "McCain Voted Against Veterans." Of all people you would think that McCain would do such a thing, but he did".

"To wit: McCain did not vote for the New GI Bill, which would make it easier for American GI's and veterans to go to college. McCain claims that he would be a better Commander in Chief. What? He probably has a theory that it is easier to lead uneducated American servicemen and women. He might be right. This is probably what he means when says that he would be a better commander in chief than Sen. Barack Obama. Moreover, if McCain is elected president, I wonder what other military retirees' benefits he would cut at the expense of American veterans. A scary thought, indeed. Just like McCain, I am a Vietnam veteran, but I am not voting for him. I know he is a hero, but being a hero does not qualify him to be president".

Voted Against Increased Funding for Veterans’ Health Care. McCain voted against increasing funding for veterans’ health care in 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. (Senate Vote 40, 3/10/04; Senate Vote 55, 3/16/05; Senate Vote 41, 3/14/06; Senate Vote 126, 3/29/07)

Supported Outsourcing at Walter Reed. McCain opposed an amendment to the FY 2007 Department of Defense Appropriations Bill that would have prevented the outsourcing of 350 federal employees’ jobs at Walter Reed Army Medical Center—outsourcing that contributed to scandalous treatment of veterans at Walter Reed. (Senate Vote 234, 9/6/06)

Opposed an Assured Funding Stream for Veterans’ Health Care. McCain opposed an amendment to provide an assured funding stream for veterans’ health care, taking into account annual changes in veterans’ population and infl ation. (Senate Vote 63, 3/16/06)

Supported Outsourcing VA Jobs. McCain opposed an amendment that would have prevented the Department of Veterans Affairs from outsourcing jobs, many held by blue-collar veterans, without fi rst giving the workers a chance to compete. (Senate Vote 315, 9/6/07)

McCain voted against an amendment to close corporate tax loopholes in order to increase veterans' medical services funding by $1.5 billion. In April 2006 McCain joined only 13 other senators in voting against an amendment to increase funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs for outpatient care and treatment of veterans. This amendment provided a paltry $430 million compared to the billions of dollars being spent each week in Iraq, yet McCain opted to vote against it.

Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave McCain a grade of D for his record of voting against veterans (Obama got a B+), while the Disabled Veterans of America gave McCain a 20% vote rating. The Vietnam Veterans of America compiled a list of key votes, and found McCain voted against the group’s position 15 times and with the group eight times. (Obama, in contrast, voted with the VVA 12 times, and against it only once.)

His neglect of veterans goes on and on. Most recently in May of 2008 McCain spoke out against the updated GI Bill being sponsored by Virginia Sen. Jim Webb.

On the day of the vote McCain was not present, a convenient way to avoid criticism over his promised oppositional vote. The biggest injustice to those who worked so hard to make this bill a reality came when President Bush praised McCain for his work on this legislation.

Every American should appreciate and honor the service that Sen. McCain gave to our country during Vietnam. There is no doubt John McCain supports the war in Iraq.

It doesn't mean he supports the veterans who served.

NEED MORE? OK,..http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/mccain_vets.cfm

It looks to me like they are NOT supporting McCain because he has not supported them.

Kenny



How to talk to a Liberal if you really have to...!

First know that they will NEVER answer a DIRECT question!

Second, Liberals will never stay on TOPIC!

Third, SPIN is the main-stay of any Liberal point or statement!

And last, if the FACTS dont fit, go back in time till you find something that does!

Mr Kenny BigFish

I enjoyed reading your reply. You obviously are very passionate about the wellfare of our Troops in harms way as you are about research. Please keep up you efforts in that area, we need all the support we can get to convince the Liberal Congress and Senate to support all our Heros over seas and at home.

But let me point out that Spin is Spin, Liberals Spin so much of the time they dont realize that they are doing it! That much Spinning makes normal folks Dizzy. But Liberals dont get it, so Spin on they do!

Your so called fact that our Troops overwhelmingly support the Liberal Demo Ticket is PURE SPIN. The POLLs you used are in FACT three months old.!!! Three Month old POLLS ??? Thats like leaving Milk out for a week, then tryning to sell it as FRESH from the farm.

The FACT is that the Republicain McCain Palin Presidential Ticket is 1% ahead of the the Liberal Dems in Servicemen Polls over seas. That's a DEAD HEAT !

What kind of Spin is it when a Liberal sees a few signs waiving in a sea of McCain supporter Signs at the Republicain Conv., that say he voted agaiest Vets and that suddenly makes it true? This is yet another example of more Liberal spin!

Liberals allways make a point to show a poor voting records on this or that issue. Making out like that was all that a certian Bill Contained. Liberals never enlighten anyone that it was voted againest because of the Liberal Amendments and Pork attached by the Dominant Liberal Activest Democratic Senators and Congressmen

Librals love to insult Americans with their analysis of voting records. We all know that Amendments to bills is what are voted on, NOT WHAT THE TITLE OF THE BILL SAYS!

Please dont waist anymore of mine or Americias time with voting records WITHOUT INCLUDING ALL the PORK and SELFSERVING AMENDMENTS ATTACHED to them. That way we all can see why it didn't pass the test of Conservitive Senators and Congressmen.

You even criticize McCain for voting againest an Amendment in a particular Bill. What was that all about? SPIN !!

A voting record only shows that McCain did his job and looked out for all Americian Citizens, not only the Military Vets. I wish the Liberal Demos would think before they Voted on a bill, we would have the deficit payed off in no time at all!

The AFLCIO !!! So that is the source of all your talking points and Anti-American Pro-Obama SPIN. My goodness, we are again confronted with SPECIAL INTEREST from the LIBERAL LEFT LOBBY. Never thought I would see it on this fourm.

I love Americia. I will not apologize for her Noble Actions and attempts to support our Friends around the world. I will not demand from her that which I wont do for myself. I will never be ashamed of my own success, and give all credit to the good ol USA for the Opportunity to be what ever I want to be. This is Americia, Land of the Free home of the brave. I will defend her in all things and never defame her in the eyes of the world.

I was a union member of the AFLCIO for almost 20 years. It ruined my job, and all but made a complete farce of the values and principles I was raised with. To this day it remains one of the biggest jokes ever perpetrated on Amercia and my former union members. Its not a union, its a good ol boy club of Liberal Politicos looking to advance themselves in Goverment jobs, in political appointments, and manipulative union representation.

If the AFLCIO is you Liberal Political Affiliation, and the Pro-Obama Liberal Media is your viewing choice, and the Weak Obama Biden Democratic Ticket is your choice for Amercia's next President, then maybe you.....You Sir...need to get out of the Liberal Tank, put the Cool-Aid down, and check out the rest of our views that are not tainted by Liberal propaganda.

Mike

 

 


Fight to win on the Track, not in the parking lot! I 
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we head home to our other lives !

Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U
September 21, 2008 at 07:52:45 PM
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Posted By: nonwing bill on September 20 2008 at 11:49:36 PM

Kenny,

How do folks out your way feel about the election? With McCain hailing from Arizona and Sheriff Joe running amok in Maricopa County, are the Republicans as strong as it appears in your great state?

At least you don't have to deal with our Honorable Senator Jim Inhofe. What a joke.



 

When I was growing up I was taught a person with no-wings was...well ...earth bound and scheduled to meet with the ol-no-wing fallen one himself at some point in time. LOL

To the point.....what is so wrong with Law and Order? Maricopa County is a perfect example of whats not being done right everywhere else.

It seems Liberals can't hang with Law and Order Types! I wonder why that is?

To answer the question you posed to BigFish in little pond Kenny, yes the Republicains are a strong conservitive force to deal with in AZ. Prepare for the conservitive waive to come ashore in all the battle ground states come November.

Mike

 


Fight to win on the Track, not in the parking lot! I 
just love the " Ur # 1. wave " from fellow racers as 
we head home to our other lives !

Monkey32
September 21, 2008 at 09:17:35 PM
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I didn't read all the posts- I only read a few. Let me point out a few things.

1) When Clinton was in office, we didn't no longer have a deficit, we had a surplus. And in the 8 years w/ Bush, we are in the whole again.

2) While working for 20 years as a federal auditor- I have met both Obama and McCain. Both are smart and both could run this country. However, McCain is another Bush. You see where our ecomomy is going now. If we have another 4 years of this, we will be in deep s$%*!

3) I have proudly served my country. I was in the first and the current war. I will no longer keep quite when people talk s&*%, w/out getting their facts straight.

An example is, I had a big finding on an oil and gas issue. I called up and gave it to Obama and met him. Well, he knows that Bush has his hands in the oil and gas. Well he calls McCain to present it to him to take to the house. And that is where I met McCain. So, long story short, we got the money collected.

Obama was smart enough to not go after a Republican without talking or showing a Senior Republican the facts. Please keep this forum as a racing thing. I know that Obama is black, but we should be past the racial thing. And for you that think he is a Muslim, think again. He is a Catholic, whose father is a Muslim. Yes, he may not have put his hand across his heart on the national anthem, but listen to why he did. He will get our country out of this hell hole we are in.

 

Thanks for letting me rant. And if anyone has personal complaints. You can email me personally.

[email protected]

Thanks



dirtrack234
September 21, 2008 at 09:25:09 PM
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I dont care for either one of them myself. But I think Mccains VP pick is better then both of them, so with his age I will vote McCain.


JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U
September 21, 2008 at 10:28:21 PM
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Posted By: Monkey32 on September 21 2008 at 09:17:35 PM

I didn't read all the posts- I only read a few. Let me point out a few things.

1) When Clinton was in office, we didn't no longer have a deficit, we had a surplus. And in the 8 years w/ Bush, we are in the whole again.

2) While working for 20 years as a federal auditor- I have met both Obama and McCain. Both are smart and both could run this country. However, McCain is another Bush. You see where our ecomomy is going now. If we have another 4 years of this, we will be in deep s$%*!

3) I have proudly served my country. I was in the first and the current war. I will no longer keep quite when people talk s&*%, w/out getting their facts straight.

An example is, I had a big finding on an oil and gas issue. I called up and gave it to Obama and met him. Well, he knows that Bush has his hands in the oil and gas. Well he calls McCain to present it to him to take to the house. And that is where I met McCain. So, long story short, we got the money collected.

Obama was smart enough to not go after a Republican without talking or showing a Senior Republican the facts. Please keep this forum as a racing thing. I know that Obama is black, but we should be past the racial thing. And for you that think he is a Muslim, think again. He is a Catholic, whose father is a Muslim. Yes, he may not have put his hand across his heart on the national anthem, but listen to why he did. He will get our country out of this hell hole we are in.

 

Thanks for letting me rant. And if anyone has personal complaints. You can email me personally.

[email protected]

Thanks



Clinton is just another Liberal Riding on the work of others. The economy was in good shape because of the Republicain , President Ronald Regan's Administration and the Military Build up he achieved that allowed us to win the first Gulf war.

In your attempt to sell Obama as the savior of all Americia, you must have been dizzy from SPINING, you proved that McCain is what he says he is, a Maverick, and willing to take on the status-quo, even if its within his own political party. No Democrat would have done that. Not one! Thank you for pointing that out.

You were in service for 20 years? Obama was in office 143 days before starting to run for president. When did you get to know him? He's been running for president for 19 months, so you retired what about 19 to 20 months ago? In that time he moved nothing through the Senate.

This Liberal Activist Senator voted PRESENT 112 times out of 120 on vital bills! All to avoid being attacked for his voting record, like they do to McCain. So you chose him? Really?

What made him stand out to you after 143 days in the Senate that made you want to Trust him with "INSIDE" information on the Bush Administration and Oil Companies? What could that have been? There had to be a lot more choices available before Obama? Hummmm? Smells a tad bit fishy!

This Liberal Senator is friends and served with the Liberal Americian Terrorist Bill Aires who killed three people, bombed goverment buildings and police departments and is still attempting to over throw the Goverment of the people of the USA, whom you say you worked for and fought for in two wars? Really? You accept this?

This poor little rich boy, raised in paradise, went to the Liberal Raciest Church of Rev. J. Wright, and sat there for 20 years while listening to him preach against Americia, white people, success, wealth, and welcomes the death of almost 3000 innocent Americians at the World Trade Center as pay back for all of Americias wrongs! You trust this mans judgement with vital confidential information? You seem to have used your position to further the political ambitions of this Liberal hypocrite ? Really? This is precisely why we need McCain, to end this type of political corruption within our Goverment.

You went to a Democratic junior Senator with 143 days of Senate experience to present a " FINDING"....that you felt was so important that it needed to be brought to the attention of the entire Republican Party in the Senate via the Democratic Baby Senator Obama? Really? Let me enlighten you, the Senate is there to do the business of the Americian People, not to further your perception of political Correctness and views of who should be President.

You jumped your own departments policy and procedures and supervisors to deliver confidential information to the Senates most Liberal Democratic Senator to drop some DIRT in his lap about the Republicain Party and the Bush Administration! If you indeed did this, I suspect your motovation wasn't for OBAMA to take it to McCAIN in order to right some wrong. The intent was more likely intended as fule to attack the Bush administration. You appear to be an Obama supporter first and a Federal Auditor second. That sir is a personal agenda and I'm sure is a violation or the personnel policy within that " MYSTERIOUS" department you "RETIRED" from, not to mention a few federal violations that Im sure the Republician Party would love to know about this as well as a few folks in the US Attorney Generals Office.

This is the BEST evidence I have seen to date to support why McCain is the man for the job of cleaning up Washington.

By the way, Im not hiding from you.

Mike


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"You've heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession," he said, noting that growth has held up at about 1 percent despite all the publicity over losing jobs to India, China, illegal immigration, housing and credit problems and record oil prices. "We may have a recession; we haven't had one yet."

"We have sort of become a nation of whiners," he said. "You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline" - Phil Gramm McCain's chief economic advisor

“Now, as far as putting additional money in American taxpayers’ pocket, that’s fine, because a lot of this is psychological. A lot of it’s psychological. Because I believe the fundamentals of our economy is still strong.” - John McCain

“I don’t believe we’re headed into a recession,” he said, “I believe the fundamentals of this economy are strong and I believe they will remain strong.” - John McCain

“The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should.” - John McCain


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The Bailout Plan: Welcome to Economic Shock and Awe

By Arianna Huffington

See if this sounds familiar:

There is a gathering threat to the safety of the United States. We must take immediate action. Congress must quickly grant the President and the Secretary what they want and also give them full and unfettered authority to execute the plan.

Welcome to Economic Shock and Awe (or as some have dubbed it, according to Paul Krugman, "the Authorization for Use of Financial Force").

Even the amount of taxpayer money being bandied about -- $1 trillion -- is similar. Think you got your money's worth for the Iraq war? Congratulations -- you're about to buy another pricey debacle.

We've seen how negligent the Bush administration is with our money -- flushing billions on wasteful, mismanaged Iraq reconstruction and Katrina recovery projects.

Now the same folks who brought us those no-bid, profit-guaranteed, crony-friendly, war-and-disaster-profiteering boondoggles want us to hand them control of a $700 billion Wall Street slush fund -- with no strings attached. How dumb -- or frightened -- do they think we are?

This is, as Matt Yglesias calls it, "a crisis point for American liberalism." The battle lines are already clear: Paulson and Bush and the Republican Party want a license to reward the worst actors in the financial industry and do nothing for American families suffering the consequences.

Remember a few years ago when lawmaker after lawmaker -- mostly Democrats, but a few Republicans -- said of Iraq, "If I'd known then what I know now, I'd have voted differently."

Well, this time at least some lawmakers -- mostly Democrats, but a few Republicans -- are not being so easily bamboozled. Congressional Democrats, led by Chris Dodd in the Senate and Barney Frank in the House, have put forth proposals doing away with the Paulson's demand for unprecedented authoritarian power and adding a requirement that the government do more to help troubled borrowers refinance their mortgages.

The Treasury appears willing to bend on those elements but sticking points remain, including efforts to limit the pay of executives and Dodd's proposal that taxpayers get a share of the profits if the bad debt being bought rises in value.

Let's hope Democratic resolve holds up against the inevitable charges by the Bush administration that demands for oversight, limits on executive compensation, profit sharing for taxpayers, and aid for struggling homeowners will lead to an economic Armageddon.

There is no question that the need to address this crisis is urgent and that the issues involved are complex. But urgency and complexity cannot be allowed to become excuses for lawmakers, the media, and the public to throw up their hands and allow themselves to be bull-rushed into disastrous public policy.

Over the past 30 years, Americans have been bombarded with sermons evangelizing for the free market religion of the Right, and the supposed correlation between unregulated markets and progress. In the process, the American people have been demoted from citizens to consumers, and sold a bill of goods (rather than a Bill of Rights) about how the almighty market was the essential foundation of democracy.

In the course of selling us on buying, the market-worshippers shredded the modern social contract, the hard-fought consensus that had emerged since the New Deal, which ordered our political priorities, and expressed both our communal concern for the most vulnerable members of society and our disapproval of huge inequalities. We were now supposed to believe that all could be left up to the soulless, self-correcting calculus of supply and demand. Government involvement was an anachronism, regulatory oversight an impediment.

The last few weeks have demolished that notion. In the battle over the proper role of government, the forces of the Right, the high priests of the church of the Free Market -- including Bush, Paulson, and the Masters of Wall Street -- have suffered a monumental defeat. So why are we allowing them to dictate the terms of their surrender?

Arianna Huffington is co-founder and editor-in-chief of The Huffington Post.

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I say we form a REVOLUTION


   elbows up...stand on it hard.., & get that win!!
             #22 sprint  Norman, Oklahoma
                    Boomer Sooner

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OKCFAN12 and 22bark and the rest on this thread........

The Political races are just that....its a Race, there will be some bumping, rubbing, finger waiving, wild crashes, great passes, track is tacky, track is slipping and going away, your first, then Im first, tire blows, engine goes, out of tare offs, into the wall, officials makin' bad calls, you barely make the heat, lookin' for a clean sweep, set ups wrong, tire went flat, start over in the back, they push, they drive deep, they won this heat, they check up, they go around, the lines good, their car lost a hood, both make the A, thats okay, both start in the back anyway, they charge through traffic to better their position, and drive in hard cause times a waistin', there's a rookie ahead, and spin on four, the caution is out, they'er door to door, the green flag waives, theye'r in the gas, everyones hopin' for a chance to pass, side by side the racers know, around turn two its time to go, one drifts up, the other turns down, now one went around, its down the back strait-a-way, its now or none, heres the cross-over, now thats how its done, they can see the the finish line as they round turn four, the dust is flying like so many times before, its the mad dash to the line, they both know there's no time, so bang and bump, to the front, its racing my friends and thats all it is ......."Racing....".

So bet on the track to beat you if you race the driver your angry at, expect cars to drive around you if you dont like the race track. The winner races his bets line, has the set up, knows when to drive and when to ride, and knows that a little tap here or there is just another word for " Excuse Me" I m coming around ya.

Politics? well its going to be rough on us no matter who wins this race.

My only hope is that Liberls and Conservatives finally realize that it is the Americian People they work for....and start doing their jobs.

If both parties would stop pointing fingers at each other, maybe, just maybe, we could pull together and win the war, and repair our economy.

The Libs and the Republicains have long ways to go, maybe we should fire them all and start over.

REMEMBER THIS......

A POLITICIAN is a person who makes a living being elected and re-elected......need I say more?

A STATESMAN is an Americian Citizen elected to a term of Office by his fellow citizens without having a career as an elected official, and is in office to serve only those citizens who elected him to office. This type never serves more that one or two terms; by choice.

We need Statesman and Term limits, not Career Politicians who come to the party, BUT NEVER GO HOME.

Im ready to get back to Racing......hell a good Dirt Racing Program built around Congress and the Senate Buildings in Washington DC every weekend would probably fix everything. Put the Politicians in Pure Factory Stocks and run as many A features as needed untill they are so tired, they have no energy to fuss and fight with each other, and they might get something "RIGHT" done for the citizens of this Great Country.

My last post on this Thread!


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we head home to our other lives !

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This message was edited on September 24, 2008 at 10:33:33 PM by BIGFISH

It was starting to cool down real nice up here in the pines in Prescott AZ until we got a blast of hot air from big mouth mad Mike.... Keep up the good work Mikey, I love summer.

COULD YOU YELL A LITTLE LOUDER THOUGH HOT SHOT! I can hardly hear you. LOL

Kenny


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This message was edited on September 26, 2008 at 03:25:30 PM by BIGFISH

"Little pond Kenny", I can out match you 10-1 on big named racers that came out of AZ comparede to where you're at, heck most any state except California and Indiana, my home state. Name me one track in Oklahoma or anywhere in that area that has the tradition and the names that come out of Manzanita speedway, It's been open since 1951 and we race both Friday and Saturday night, darn near year round.. Name me one race in your area that can match the Western World in any category you'd like, Heck, in most any area, we paid out $200,000 last year. I'm not knocking Oklahoma, my family has history there. Lets just start at the Indy 500 hot shot!Just for starters JJ Yeley was the youngest and Billy Boat sat on the pole for Foyt and won at Texas Motor speedway. Jimmy Bryan, Roger McCluskey, Bill Cheesebourg, Ron Shuman, Lealand Macspadden, Wayne Weiler, Buddy Talor, Hank Arnold, Bobby Ball, I could go on, Jerry Coons Jr...You wouldn't know a big pond if you fell in it..LOL Would you care to hear about my California pond?

I spent a lot of years at Ascot as well.

Kenny


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how pathetic to hear McCain's camp wants to delay the debates. for all those who are dumb enough to fall for this political pandering - i mean ------- wow. no one in the senate is even working or doing anything at 9pm on a friday. its aside from the point if you agree with that or not - - - there isnt a hell of a lot to do with the economy at 9pm on a friday (duh) - the only thing to do at 9pm on a friday is to play political footsie in the backrooms of suits and cigars. if folks disagree with how all thats done - maybe they should turn their thinkers on when voting.

i hope people arent dumb enough to believe this is sincere. i dont think they want to delay because they afraid of debating obama - its what it looks like but i'm pretty sure that is not what it is. its to try to put him back on this stupid maverick pedestal as if he wants to work overtime for you. well - news for everyone - if he wants to go work overtime for the american people - get your sorry ass out there and debate - tell the people what you plan to do about the bad times and impending misery.

its an inarguable point unless BS and propaganda are injected into it. the simple fact is - there isnt much to accomplish in DC at 9pm on a friday - whether thats right or wrong is insignificant - its what we have - and it doesnt change overnight - if at all. i dont think mccain should have a problem with how that is done - he's been a part of shaping the mold for the better part of 2 or 3 decades.

there really is no more important place for our presidential candidates to be friday night. we only have 3 real chances to hear them in this way - the way in which we should hear them. there is nothing more important than sharing with your fellow americans how you plan to deal with things. which may terein lie the point. for someone who admittedly doesnt know a lot about the economy - he's probably getting 5x a day crashcourses on it. not about how it works - but what he should say. thats what they have done with palin. she makes these talking points that sound ok - but whenever her interviewer asks a follow up question - she is befuddled and clueless. this is not my opinion folks - it is what has happened twice now. with couric and gibson.

we know she wasnt picked for any special talent. she was picked because she is cute, has the whole soccer mom persona, and her radical right views rally that base. but mainly she was picked because she is a woman. even reds admit it. so what does that really mean? Reverse Sexism. you think reverse racism is bad with black folks (it is) - its rearing its ugly head in the most important and critical time for our nation. the way women have allowed themselves to be exploited the way they have - they should really rethinkt he whole female in the white house thing. i know it sounds cool - i;d like to see it too. but not at the cost of me and all my countrymen. as much as everyone wants this to be a primetime reality competition like american idol - and it kinda is now with palin - the stakes are simply too high for everyone to keep their head up their butts.

they wont even let palin talk or associate with the media. i mean literally answer NO questions. those capable of thinking for a moment please do so - why would they not want her to ever answer questions. i cant say the exact answer - i can only say its not good. its not good at all. she was picked to Politically pander to the radicals of her own base - and the narrow sexist minded core of Hillary Voters. thats pathetic,

all McSame does IS PANDER

pandering with the holdiay gas tax which even his own laughed at.
pandering with picking the dumbest VP candidate of all time (she really is i hate to say - she is pretty tho)
pandering to try to delay a debate that is much more important to the american people than what a few corrupt individuals could talk about over some scotch and pool.

at 9pm in friday - ANY friday really in the next 2 months - there is nothing more important that both american presidential candidates explaining and answering questions - and talking it all DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

these days Maverick seems to mean attempts at swindling an entire country. so far that is all i have seen. and when will Palin's pimps - oops - i mean handlers - ya know those who are doing everything in their power to make sure she never has to answer a question - when will they open her up for business? lol pun intended. so far she has spoken only twice since the rnc - both in highly controlled atmospheres - and yet she still shows to be a total ignorant rambling radical fool.

anyone care to point out to me where i am incorrect. the longer she is around to embarras herself - the more i have to wander about all those who are "energized" by such an ignoramus.....i really hope we havent become a country full of 5th graders- if we have - than we need to drastically lower the voting age - because i bet they would show their smarts, IQ, and common sense and reason well against states like Oklahoma, Utah, Texas.................

ok thats my bedtime rant.

 


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