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This whole situation is really a trickle down fallout effect from the Cali Amigos fracturing the sport and these 2 santioning bodies scrambling for venues, some being more questionable than others. It was one of David Gravel's concerns from the outset, and has come true. 

This whole situation is really a trickle down fallout effect from the Cali Amigos fracturing the sport and these 2 santioning bodies scrambling for venues, some being more questionable than others. It was one of David Gravel's concerns from the outset, and has come true. 

This whole situation is really a trickle down fallout effect from the Cali Amigos fracturing the sport and these 2 santioning bodies scrambling for venues, some being more questionable than others. It was one of David Gravel's concerns from the outset, and has come true. 

Were they wide open the whole time?

@saphead

Can you pleas expand ? 2 santioning bodies scrambling for venues, some being more questionable than others and it  was one of David Gravel's concerns from the outset, and has come true. 

Thanks

DG spoke about this on either his own or another podcast early in 2025, before the season began. With 2 national fulltime series fighting for tracks and territory, he said and this is a fairly exact quote, "I just hope we don't have to race at some of these shithole tracks." 

Correct.  And when Cody was interviewed about upcoming Belleville, he said I hope everyone comes out alive.  (not verbatum, but in general)  Chances are, everyone comes out alive, but he was trying to make a point.  

Sickening how many "fans" are throwing drivers under the bus for voicing their concerns about safety and the lack of an up-to-date catch fence.  How about Beaver Dam's decision to keep racing without a catch fence--until Jason Johnson was killed in 2018?   How about BAPS and their pit road opening?  Wait until Hodnett gets killed and address it?  Sick of waiting for something to happen before taking action.  There is no reason 410 sprint cars should be racing on a track without an acceptable catch fence, and definitely not on a track banked like this one.  

Some say, if it scares you to race these places, no one is forcing you, right?  Stay home.   Right.  That's why the guys said, enough, we're not racing there.  I love hearing keyboard warriors throwing drivers under the bus for having no guts.  Hilarious.  

Clutch those pearls.

I'm going to assume this didn't pop up out of the blue and there is definitely more to this story.  If the Outlaws or HL tried to run a show and no one else showed up, they would each have a car count in the mid-teens.  If the top Outlaw teams voiced concerns about this, what do you think the non-outlaw drivers were thinking?  I'm assuming no one else was coming either, so there's no show.  

All speculation but probably some pretty negative backlash from the drivers for a long time and no one else was going to come.  I don't blame em.  

This whole situation is really a trickle down fallout effect from the Cali Amigos fracturing the sport and these 2 santioning bodies scrambling for venues, some being more questionable than others. It was one of David Gravel's concerns from the outset, and has come true. 

There have been 4 drivers killed at Belleville since it opened. There have been 7 killed at Eldora since it opened. Maybe they're boycotting the wrong track if they're really that scared.

Nice try but the amount of sprint car races run at Belleville doesn't even compare to the amount run at Eldora it's not even close. But that doesn't fit your narrative.

It's not a narrative, it's only pointing out the absurdity of a horrible excuse to do a last minute cancellation. 

There have been 10 sprint car drivers killed in the past 15 years, 6 of those were on tracks smaller than a 1/2 mile. 

So should I order tickets for Hi Limit at Belleville next year? Running 410s there is not a good idea what part of that don't you get?

Are you proposing that all of the "scary" tracks should just be shuttered? 

Didn't say that I said 410s should not run there now if they want to put up catch fencing sure have at it. That place carries more speed in the turns than probably any other dirt track. To say the drivers are too scared is just dumb. Now answer my question is Hi Limit going to schedule a race there or not? Because I bet they won't and if they don't are you going to call them scared also?

Didn't say that I said 410s should not run there now if they want to put up catch fencing sure have at it. That place carries more speed in the turns than probably any other dirt track. To say the drivers are too scared is just dumb. Now answer my question is Hi Limit going to schedule a race there or not? Because I bet they won't and if they don't are you going to call them scared also?

Just wondering, have you ever been to the Salina Highbanks? What are your thoughts on that "scary" place?