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ricci49
October 27, 2012 at 04:53:04 PM
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From the Sacramento Bee...


Local motor sports notes: Promoter builds dirt racetrack at Stockton fairgounds
By Mark Billingsley
Bee Correspondent
Published: Friday, Oct. 26, 2012 - 12:00 am | Page 3C
Last Modified: Friday, Oct. 26, 2012 - 12:20 am


Tony Noceti is doing his community a favor.

Noceti, who leases Stockton 99 Speedway, has built a new three-eighths-mile dirt circuit in the infield of the horse track at the San Joaquin County Fairgrounds in Stockton. He hopes to have between eight and 10 dirt-track shows starting next year with at least one date with the World of Outlaws.

"It's a beautiful facility and can fit between 9,000 and 10,000 in the grandstands," said Noceti, who took over Stockton 99's asphalt track in 2009 after it had lain dormant for three years and was facing bulldozers to make way for houses before the economy collapsed. "The (San Joaquin County) fair board has been very supportive, and frankly this track will help bring in some much-needed revenue."

Noceti said he's already been in contact with the World of Outlaws, the nation's premier traveling sprint car series, about having at least one show next year. The Outlaws already race each spring and late summer in Chico and Calistoga, so a trip down Highway 99 for another large purse could be enticing.





wingedwarrior
October 28, 2012 at 11:13:17 AM
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From the Sacramento Bee...


Local motor sports notes: Promoter builds dirt racetrack at Stockton fairgounds
By Mark Billingsley
Bee Correspondent
Published: Friday, Oct. 26, 2012 - 12:00 am | Page 3C
Last Modified: Friday, Oct. 26, 2012 - 12:20 am


Tony Noceti is doing his community a favor.

Noceti, who leases Stockton 99 Speedway, has built a new three-eighths-mile dirt circuit in the infield of the horse track at the San Joaquin County Fairgrounds in Stockton. He hopes to have between eight and 10 dirt-track shows starting next year with at least one date with the World of Outlaws.

"It's a beautiful facility and can fit between 9,000 and 10,000 in the grandstands," said Noceti, who took over Stockton 99's asphalt track in 2009 after it had lain dormant for three years and was facing bulldozers to make way for houses before the economy collapsed. "The (San Joaquin County) fair board has been very supportive, and frankly this track will help bring in some much-needed revenue."

Noceti said he's already been in contact with the World of Outlaws, the nation's premier traveling sprint car series, about having at least one show next year. The Outlaws already race each spring and late summer in Chico and Calistoga, so a trip down Highway 99 for another large purse could be enticing.




I hope this is a real deal. Be nice to have a dirt track open, instead of closing in the Bay-Area.


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rickrwp
October 28, 2012 at 01:53:18 PM
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I too wish Tony Noceti success with this venture, but this is a first for me to hear of Stockton as being part of the Bay Area!




wingedwarrior
October 28, 2012 at 02:10:40 PM
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I too wish Tony Noceti success with this venture, but this is a first for me to hear of Stockton as being part of the Bay Area!



Well I guess within an hour or so, LOL. I think it beats driving to Tulare or Chico.


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gone_racin
October 29, 2012 at 01:50:22 AM
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The one thing that the article fails to mention. No lights. Maybe they plan to put some in at some point. But until they do. The racing and the car counts may not be so good.

gone_racin
October 29, 2012 at 01:53:55 AM
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New Dirt Track For California Fans & Racers A three-eighths-mile dirt track is being constructed inside the mile horse racing track at California’s San Joaquin County Fairgrounds. STOCKTON, Calif. — California racing fans will have a new venue to attend auto races next season. Tony and Carol Noceti, who promote stock car racing at the asphalt Stockton 99 Speedway and its kart track, have reached an agreement — and construction has already begun — to build a three-eighths-mile dirt track inside of the one-mile horse racing oval at the San Joaquin County Fairgrounds. They hope to hold as many as 10 events at the The New Stockton 99 Dirt Track annually with a goal of opening in April. “We’re anxious to get going, and I think this is a wonderful opportunity to bring big-time races to the fans in Stockton,” Tony Noceti told The Record. Noceti has already begun negotiating with officials from the World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series in hopes of bringing that series to the track. Construction began in early October and Noceti said it will be complete in less than a month and cost approximately $250,000. Noceti sank approximately $1 million into Stockton 99 Speedway since reaching an agreement with its owners, Bob Hunefeld and Ken Clapp, to reopen the facility in 2009. “It takes hard work. But I’m a farmer, I move dirt,” Nocetti told The Record. “That’s what I do for a living.” One of the drawbacks is that the track does not have lights, so any events would take place during the daytime. Share Article Save to Instapaper


Ca Sprintcar fan
October 29, 2012 at 09:50:54 AM
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Sunday mornings? We need a Sunday Sprintcar track in California.


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buzz rightrear
October 30, 2012 at 06:43:54 PM
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Sunday mornings? We need a Sunday Sprintcar track in California.



we need a sunday morning race like we need a hole in the head. but it might be good because all the gang bangers and druggies in the area might still be asleep.

i really hope that they can find a way to race, but we all know day races suck. especially in stockton summers.

not to seem any more negative, but negotiating with WOO and actually getting a race are very different.

the only available dates seem to be during march, when the chance of rain is prevalent.

during the sept WOO swing this year they had to try to fit 5 cali dates back to back before heading back to the mid west.

like i said, i hope they can make it fly with the challenges involved.

i still give them an "A" for effort



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reartire
October 31, 2012 at 12:07:59 AM
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If i am correct Woo ran a day race at the S.J. Fairgrounds in the late 80's or early 90's. It was a sunday in september i believe and i don't recall any problems.. You are right S.J. can be warm but probably not like Stockton. During the 60's Calistoga had some day races, of course the sprint cars in those days did not run with a wing or the big tires.. Usac would run the Big Cars at the Golden State 100 at the old Sacramento Fairgrounds in september during the 60's again that was before the big tires and a mile track does not get dusty like a 1/4 or 3/8th can.. Also Padjen promoted a couple silver crown races and a sprint car invitational at Cal Expo.. I don't know if this will work out but it has been done before..




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Posted By: wingedwarrior on October 28 2012 at 02:10:40 PM

Well I guess within an hour or so, LOL. I think it beats driving to Tulare or Chico.



Oh c'mon now props for another track in Cali . But please don't ever take anything away from Tulare or Chico . Those are two of the best tracks in all of Cali . And the THUNDERBOWL with all the work they have done is still my favorite track in Cali . And I'm spoiled because the PAS is my home track .
We need more sprint car racing at our home track.

Ca Sprintcar fan
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I always hear the drivers say " I wish we could race sprintcars more than 2 races a week like PA and Ohio does". Sunday morning could fill the void of races we used to go watch at Altamont or Merced back in the day.


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ricci49
October 31, 2012 at 11:06:39 AM
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we need a sunday morning race like we need a hole in the head. but it might be good because all the gang bangers and druggies in the area might still be asleep.

i really hope that they can find a way to race, but we all know day races suck. especially in stockton summers.

not to seem any more negative, but negotiating with WOO and actually getting a race are very different.

the only available dates seem to be during march, when the chance of rain is prevalent.

during the sept WOO swing this year they had to try to fit 5 cali dates back to back before heading back to the mid west.

like i said, i hope they can make it fly with the challenges involved.

i still give them an "A" for effort




Not to get any more negative? You kinda sewed up the market on that with your insights on Stockton's dirt track effort. Nice you through an A for effort in there though.


buzz rightrear
October 31, 2012 at 01:49:46 PM
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Not to get any more negative? You kinda sewed up the market on that with your insights on Stockton's dirt track effort. Nice you through an A for effort in there though.


wishful thinking at some point meets reality.

i am just throwing out the challenges i see, that need to be addressed.

i am not saying they can't be over come.

and as far as being negative on stockton's efforts, i applauded their efforts.

effort doesn't always equal results though.

as i said though, i hope it all works out.

i have been around long enough that i don't pee my pants every time i hear of a new sprint car track.

i heard of this some time ago.

at least these people in stockton have gotten this one off the ground. and they need to be applauded for that.

you can ridicule my cautious optimism if you like.


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buzz rightrear
October 31, 2012 at 01:56:49 PM
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I always hear the drivers say " I wish we could race sprintcars more than 2 races a week like PA and Ohio does". Sunday morning could fill the void of races we used to go watch at Altamont or Merced back in the day.



if so many people are looking to race more sprint cars, then why aren't the car counts higher at the tracks we have?

why aren't more sprint cars at ocean or chico?

why aren't more cars showing up at hanford when they run on back to back nights with ocean?

why didn't more cars show up to chowchilla?


i would love to see more tracks, and more opportunities for sprint car racing. i just have to ask the questions.


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ricci49
October 31, 2012 at 04:32:28 PM
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Thanks for not peeing your pants but maybe you can not $hit on some positive news affecting a city that's having some hard times. If your worried about a neighborhood that a dirt track is in your missing some of the best racing in California. Cheer up, life is good and thanks for the Buzzisms young man.

all the gang bangers and druggies in the area might still be asleep

we need a sunday morning race like we need a hole in the head

we all know day races suck. especially in stockton summers.

the only available dates are in march, when the chance of rain is prevalent.

i don't pee my pants every time i hear of a new sprint car track.

effort doesn't always equal results




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Thanks for not peeing your pants but maybe you can not $hit on some positive news affecting a city that's having some hard times. If your worried about a neighborhood that a dirt track is in your missing some of the best racing in California. Cheer up, life is good and thanks for the Buzzisms young man.

all the gang bangers and druggies in the area might still be asleep

we need a sunday morning race like we need a hole in the head

we all know day races suck. especially in stockton summers.

the only available dates are in march, when the chance of rain is prevalent.

i don't pee my pants every time i hear of a new sprint car track.

effort doesn't always equal results



you can pick and choose snippets of my sentences, some out of context, all you want. yet you fail to acknowledge the fact i offered support. still i will address your post.

the crime in stockton is well documented

if sunday morning sprint car dirt track racing was the way to go, someone would already be making a ton of money doing it. the challenge is finding a way to make a day time dirt track race work on a consistent basis.

day time dirt track races do suck. then add in the summer temps in stockton. refer to my above sentence.

the only times the WOO are in this area are in march-april, or sept. since the track isn't going to be ready until at least april, no WOO there this year. plus yes veronica, it rains then. how many shows get rained out in that time frame? when you book a WOO show, you have to put up a deposit to hold the date. when it rains and you have to cancel the show, you don't get your money back. the only other option is sept. the WOO calender seems to be crowded already then. so to wonder when a date might happen is realistic.

you may squeal like a 14 year old girl at a justin bieber concert at the mention of a new dirt track, but i like to be hopeful while realizing the challenges involved.

if efforts equaled results, i would have gotten through to you by now.

like i said you can ridicule my cautious optimism.

again, i give props to the people in stockton for their efforts. they seem to have done well at stockton 99 speedway.

just because i might look at things with more of a critical eye, doesn't mean i wish for any less success.

by the way if you think my bringing up some logical challenges is "shitting" on something, you really don't have any idea of my capabilities.

if you are not willing to at least acknowledge the realistic challenges involved, then it leads me to suspect you have an unobstructed view of the inner workings of your colon.


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IF I got to a race at this place it will only be when I receive some sense that my property (car) and myself will be secure while I am there. I will never take my daughter or wife there. EVER. I won't even stop for gas in Stockton and I have made sure my wife and enyone who will listen to me understands why. This is still the place where Terry Hannagan got shot and the situation has only gotten worse in that town in the last few decades. I know what I am talking about. I used to be the photographer at Delta Speedway from 1989 to 1992 and made a few appearances in 1994. Thankfully the evil that exists in that area never affected me but I knew a safer way in and out of the area (avoid Charter Way at all costs) so that helped or perhaps just good luck or karma. There were fans and competitors over the years that were victims of having their cars broken into while at Delta Speedway and one in particular that I remember Rick Martin had his car stereo ripped off one night when he was there. I always wondered why they didn't do something with the horse track because it really didn't seem that they did much with it. It's got a great grandstand and with lights it may actually turn into something worthwhile. I wouldn't drive across town let alone to Stockton for a day race - ain't gonna happen. I will have a wait and see approach on this one.



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IF I got to a race at this place it will only be when I receive some sense that my property (car) and myself will be secure while I am there. I will never take my daughter or wife there. EVER. I won't even stop for gas in Stockton and I have made sure my wife and enyone who will listen to me understands why. This is still the place where Terry Hannagan got shot and the situation has only gotten worse in that town in the last few decades. I know what I am talking about. I used to be the photographer at Delta Speedway from 1989 to 1992 and made a few appearances in 1994. Thankfully the evil that exists in that area never affected me but I knew a safer way in and out of the area (avoid Charter Way at all costs) so that helped or perhaps just good luck or karma. There were fans and competitors over the years that were victims of having their cars broken into while at Delta Speedway and one in particular that I remember Rick Martin had his car stereo ripped off one night when he was there. I always wondered why they didn't do something with the horse track because it really didn't seem that they did much with it. It's got a great grandstand and with lights it may actually turn into something worthwhile. I wouldn't drive across town let alone to Stockton for a day race - ain't gonna happen. I will have a wait and see approach on this one.



kill joy. wink wink


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kill joy. wink wink



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If the neighborhood at the proposed dirt track is anything like the neighborhood where the 99 track is located I would ONLY want daytime races! Wink


 
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