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July 22, 2012 at
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July 22, 2012 at
11:22:07 AM by artie langes habit
Havent seen one yet so here goes.
Swindell k kinser
Madsen brown
Schatz. S kinser
Saldana. Dollansky
Heskin. Pittman
S Stewart. Lasoski
McCarl. Shaffer
Zomer. Meyers
S smith. T Kaeding
Hodnett. Dale blaney
B transfers
Mcmahan sides
Kemenah allard
Swindell rockets out to a big lead leads all the way to the fuel stop. Then madness occurs lasoski and Pittman charge thru the field. As the laps wind down pittman wins, lasoski, Swindell, schatz, Stewart. Top 5
More weight, more regulation, more similarity in the
cars.... that will ensure plenty of thrills for years
to come. Only the most average talent behind the
wheel will be needed with such awesome equipment on
the track!
minthess 8.28.14
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July 22, 2012 at
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Posted By: artie langes habit on July 22 2012 at 11:13:57 AM
Havent seen one yet so here goes.
Swindell k kinser
Madsen brown
Schatz. S kinser
Saldana. Dollansky
Heskin. Pittman
S Stewart. Lasoski
McCarl. Shaffer
Zomer. Meyers
S smith. T Kaeding
Hodnett. Dale blaney
B transfers
Mcmahan sides
Kemenah allard
Swindell rockets out to a big lead leads all the way to the fuel stop. Then madness occurs lasoski and Pittman charge thru the field. As the laps wind down pittman wins, lasoski, Swindell, schatz, Stewart. Top 5
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Do you have ESP? Thats some bold predictions .
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July 22, 2012 at
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In no particular order just as they came to me
1 Kinser
2 K Kinser (winner)
3 Swindell
4 Madsen
5 Brown (hard charger)
6 Saldana
7 Dollansky
8 Dobmeir
9 McCarl
10 Heskin
11 Lasoski
12 Schatz
13 Sweet
14 Wayne Johnson
15 Stewart
16 Jason Johnson
17 Hodnett
18 Shaffer
19 Pittman
20 Kemenah
Transfers
21 Zomer
22 Rahmer
23 Ian Madsen
24 Lynton Jeffrey
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July 22, 2012 at
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Posted By: artie langes habit on July 22 2012 at 11:13:57 AM
Havent seen one yet so here goes.
Swindell k kinser
Madsen brown
Schatz. S kinser
Saldana. Dollansky
Heskin. Pittman
S Stewart. Lasoski
McCarl. Shaffer
Zomer. Meyers
S smith. T Kaeding
Hodnett. Dale blaney
B transfers
Mcmahan sides
Kemenah allard
Swindell rockets out to a big lead leads all the way to the fuel stop. Then madness occurs lasoski and Pittman charge thru the field. As the laps wind down pittman wins, lasoski, Swindell, schatz, Stewart. Top 5
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You're way off!!! Due to a calibration error, the scale will be set 100 lbs. off at A-main time. This will disqualify everyone and revert back to the B-main 5th place finisher--Jason Meyers! You heard it here first!
(my real prediction--Sammy wins the Friday non-qualifiers night A-main and on Saturday night charges past Schatz and Stewart with 5 to go from his 17th starting spot. Place would be up for grabs)
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July 22, 2012 at
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The King schools the "young kids" and Sammy comes in a close second. Heskin finishes third. Shane Stewart fourth and schatz fifth. Knoxville regulars do very well.
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July 22, 2012 at
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i look for dobmeier and brown to be top contenders..... i want to see Shane Stewart up there but don't think the car has the funding to run with the top dogs!!
Lets go k-ville locals.... show um how its done
Dobs,Stewart,Brownie,Heskin
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July 22, 2012 at
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Posted By: nascar_03_08 on July 22 2012 at 08:37:13 PM
i look for dobmeier and brown to be top contenders..... i want to see Shane Stewart up there but don't think the car has the funding to run with the top dogs!!
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Shane will have plenty of funding for this trip to K-ville. Think what he will do with a good starting spot in the A-main.
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July 22, 2012 at
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A Main line-up
1 21
56 15
29 9
11k 11
27 7
33 49
57 17a
39 41
55 19
21m 1k
91 77x
82 63
Heskin has been as fast if not faster than anyone this year at knoxville. Brown looked good last night. It's going to be interesting to see how Austin McCarl does this year.
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July 23, 2012 at
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Posted By: kville123 on July 22 2012 at 09:47:24 PM
A Main line-up
1 21
56 15
29 9
11k 11
27 7
33 49
57 17a
39 41
55 19
21m 1k
91 77x
82 63
Heskin has been as fast if not faster than anyone this year at knoxville. Brown looked good last night. It's going to be interesting to see how Austin McCarl does this year.
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Jason Johnson of coarse.
Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?
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July 23, 2012 at
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July 23, 2012 at
02:33:01 AM by meatbag
Sammy
Schatz
Dollansky
Dobmeier
Heskin
S Smith
S Stewart
Lasoski
Pittman
Shaffer
Blaney
K Madsen
Zomer
Joey
Kaeding
K Kinser
S Kinser
Sides
Hodnett
Darrah
Schuchart
Brown
J Johnson
Kemenah
do it in the dirt
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July 23, 2012 at
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In no particular order:
Sammy Swindell
Cody Darrah
Craig Dollansky
Joey Saldana
Steve Kinser
Kraig Kinser
Mark Dobmeier
Donny Schatz
Stevie Smith
Brian Brown
Daryn Pittman
Kerry Madsen
Danny Lasoski
Greg Hodnett
Jason Johnson
Brad Sweet
Don Droud Jr.
Ian Madsen
Davey Heskin
Shane Stewart
Justin Henderson
Tim Shaffer
Dale Blaney
Lance Dewease
Honorable Mention: Chad Kemenah, Wayne Johnson, Brady Bacon, Tim Kaeding, David Gravel, Johnny Herrera, & Jason Sides
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July 23, 2012 at
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Posted By: jholz2002 on July 23 2012 at 08:54:33 AM
In no particular order:
Sammy Swindell
Cody Darrah
Craig Dollansky
Joey Saldana
Steve Kinser
Kraig Kinser
Mark Dobmeier
Donny Schatz
Stevie Smith
Brian Brown
Daryn Pittman
Kerry Madsen
Danny Lasoski
Greg Hodnett
Jason Johnson
Brad Sweet
Don Droud Jr.
Ian Madsen
Davey Heskin
Shane Stewart
Justin Henderson
Tim Shaffer
Dale Blaney
Lance Dewease
Honorable Mention: Chad Kemenah, Wayne Johnson, Brady Bacon, Tim Kaeding, David Gravel, Johnny Herrera, & Jason Sides
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U guys need to go out in a limb and pick a top 5 finishing order. Also is brad sweet running because if he is he will def make the A
More weight, more regulation, more similarity in the
cars.... that will ensure plenty of thrills for years
to come. Only the most average talent behind the
wheel will be needed with such awesome equipment on
the track!
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July 23, 2012 at
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A little early yet to pick 'em in my opinion. Just like Saturday at the Grove it might a while before someone gets over the soreness of a a tumble or two and they still have the 360 week deal to get thru,so lets keep the band aids handy and the smelling salts so everyone gets a shot to be in the big show.Plus,a few last minute runners coming out of the woodwork.So wait and see what happens in the mean time. I just can't believe Jason Meyers is not running yet to get sharper on his hand eye co-ordination.Will he be a real contender,that depends upon if he has that Charlie Garrett rocket motor out from under the bed.Need to clean the lint out of those injectors before you fire it up.
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July 23, 2012 at
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Top 5
Shane Stewart
Sammy
TK
Donny
Lasoski
Rest in no particular order
Tmac
Zomer
Heskin
Sides
Henderson
Brown
Hodnett
Pittman
Dewease
Sweet
K. Madsen
S. Kinser
K. Kinser
Saldana
S. Smith
Dollansky
Shaffer
Blaney
Wayne Johnson
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July 23, 2012 at
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Nop particular order
Rahmer (been a while since he's made it)
Dewease
Hodnett
Heskin (good time trialer, and has become a GREAT racer over the last couple of years)
Dobmeier (if he can qualify good, look out)
Maeschen (good qualifier and got that first win 2 weeks ago for the confidence boost)
Ryan Bunton (darkhorse local to make it due to qualifying prowess this season)
Larson (gets in as 16th and final locked in by points)
Kraig Kinser (been very consistent this season)
Steve Kinser (due for a good run after the last few seasons)
Sides (avoids that bad luck that's gotten him the last few years)
Darrah (has gotten better and better at Knoxville)
Wayne Johnson (the way he's been running on the ASCS tour, confidence is high)
Jason Johnson (the Ford will be FAST)
Shane Stewart (finally lays down that good qualifying lap this year)
Ed Lynch, Jr. (always consistent @ Kville)
Dollansky (the tracks the last few weeks fit Dollansky's style @ Knoxville)
Paul McMahon (always runs well)
Brown (very confident and fast racecars)
Ian Madsen (gets stronger every week)
Kerry Madsen (hitting stride at the right time of the year)
Balog (puts one of hte IRA guys in teh big show)
Pittman (runs very well @ Kville)
Henderson (could be a darkhorse to WIN it this year)
IMO, every driver I have listed can make the A-main, but I left off notables such as:
Swindell (cars been awesome last couple of years, they just "miss" it during qualifying and puts them too far down the order)
Schatz (something different about the team this year, too inconsitent)
Lasoski (not working out well with the 1z car)
Meyers (too much time out of the cockpit, runs mid-pack in the C)
Saldana (blows an engine in time trials on Wednesday and Friday ruining his nationals but making for a great show on Saturday night)
Zomer (can't qualify well, and dooms his chances)
McCarl (not enough equipment and has to be conservative)
Stevie Smith (5th in the B)
Allard (6th in the B)
Kaeding (wins his prelim night, but qualified bad and has to run Friday (loses a motor in the heat)
I can see scenarios where each of the above misses the race (for many, they haven't had "bad" luck on thier qualifying night for a lot of years, might come back and get them this year).
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It's been a while since Rahmer made it... ?? What about last year? He started 9th (finished 21st) !! That was with a banged up body after the crash in Canada... wasn't sure if he was even going to race!
You don't have to time in well with the reg WoO format (13-16th is just fine) - so Sammy might've been experimenting with stuff. He leads the WoO with 8 QTs... he'll be just fine in a few wks.
I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that Meyers will be buried in the C also. He is the reigning WoO champ, which means he won the title LAST year! If he had been off for 5 yrs or something, maybe... but you don't just forget how to wheel a sprint car. If anything, it might help him this year that he doesn't have the outside pressure to run well, win, etc. He is entered in the 360 Nationals as well. That track time should help - and my guess is that he'll start somewhere in the top 10 in the Nationals for both classes.
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July 23, 2012 at
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Posted By: chilly on July 23 2012 at 12:29:31 PM
It's been a while since Rahmer made it... ?? What about last year? He started 9th (finished 21st) !! That was with a banged up body after the crash in Canada... wasn't sure if he was even going to race!
You don't have to time in well with the reg WoO format (13-16th is just fine) - so Sammy might've been experimenting with stuff. He leads the WoO with 8 QTs... he'll be just fine in a few wks.
I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that Meyers will be buried in the C also. He is the reigning WoO champ, which means he won the title LAST year! If he had been off for 5 yrs or something, maybe... but you don't just forget how to wheel a sprint car. If anything, it might help him this year that he doesn't have the outside pressure to run well, win, etc. He is entered in the 360 Nationals as well. That track time should help - and my guess is that he'll start somewhere in the top 10 in the Nationals for both classes.
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Sorry to disagree Chilly.
I'll start with Meyers...
Being in a car on a regular basis makes a HUGE difference. Go talk to Brian Brown or someone that raced weekends only primarily until mid-summer, they'll tell you that you can't just get in one after a lot of time off and run up front (especially against guys at the top of thier game).
The more you race, the better you are. Meyers hasn't been in a car since what, March maybe?
That's a LOT of time off and he won't have a crew of full-time sprint car guys like he has the last 10 years or so (he'll have guys that do it because it's a hobby).
As far as the Rahmer thing goes, I don't remember him in the feature last year (maybe it's because he dropped back or dropped out, he just wasn't very memorable to me) - I know he's struggled for the last 5 years or more.
As far as my Sammy comment goes, it's like this. I think Sammy BY FAR has the best motor, set-up, etc.. But the fact is that he has been pretty much flawless the last 2 years @ Kville (any type of show whether it be the Nationals, 360 Nationals, Outlaws, Regular Saturday Night), and IMO this is gonna be one of those years where he has trouble (maybe he gets into someone else's fiasco during a heat race even).
The Nationals have NEVER been too kind to Sammy (ran over from behind by Mark Kinser in 1997, fuel bladder folding over on itself in 1998 (both times while leading), spinning into the infield at the initial green flag (1980's in the Kodiak car, don't remember what year), blowing a tire with 3 or 4 to go a couple years ago, hitting the berm TWICE last year during the feature which killed his chance at passing Schatz, etc., etc., etc..
I think Sammy or Steve either one winning would be awesome, but I just have a bad feeling about this year being the year for Sammy (especially since he just won @ Eldora, he generally only wins one of the big races in any year (I don't think he's ever won two of them in the same season if my memory is correct).
I left Shaffer off the list too (and he's ran 1st and 4th the last 2 years. I think this year (more than any other year in recent memory), the local teams (from ALL racetracks) have more confidence than ever and will make it very difficult for the 10 Outlaw teams to dominate (heck, I don't think the Outlaws have gotten all their full-time teams in teh feature EVER in 32 years).
All I really hope for is GREAT RACING, a good time, and for those newbies attending the first time to make it an annual stop.
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I'm going with Sammy to win (reverse psychology people since I said he wouldn't win the Royal and ended up doing so)
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July 23, 2012 at
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Steve Kinser wins and immediately jumps out and announces that he's not retiring!
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Posted By: vande77 on July 23 2012 at 12:54:22 PM
Sorry to disagree Chilly.
I'll start with Meyers...
Being in a car on a regular basis makes a HUGE difference. Go talk to Brian Brown or someone that raced weekends only primarily until mid-summer, they'll tell you that you can't just get in one after a lot of time off and run up front (especially against guys at the top of thier game).
The more you race, the better you are. Meyers hasn't been in a car since what, March maybe?
That's a LOT of time off and he won't have a crew of full-time sprint car guys like he has the last 10 years or so (he'll have guys that do it because it's a hobby).
As far as the Rahmer thing goes, I don't remember him in the feature last year (maybe it's because he dropped back or dropped out, he just wasn't very memorable to me) - I know he's struggled for the last 5 years or more.
As far as my Sammy comment goes, it's like this. I think Sammy BY FAR has the best motor, set-up, etc.. But the fact is that he has been pretty much flawless the last 2 years @ Kville (any type of show whether it be the Nationals, 360 Nationals, Outlaws, Regular Saturday Night), and IMO this is gonna be one of those years where he has trouble (maybe he gets into someone else's fiasco during a heat race even).
The Nationals have NEVER been too kind to Sammy (ran over from behind by Mark Kinser in 1997, fuel bladder folding over on itself in 1998 (both times while leading), spinning into the infield at the initial green flag (1980's in the Kodiak car, don't remember what year), blowing a tire with 3 or 4 to go a couple years ago, hitting the berm TWICE last year during the feature which killed his chance at passing Schatz, etc., etc., etc..
I think Sammy or Steve either one winning would be awesome, but I just have a bad feeling about this year being the year for Sammy (especially since he just won @ Eldora, he generally only wins one of the big races in any year (I don't think he's ever won two of them in the same season if my memory is correct).
I left Shaffer off the list too (and he's ran 1st and 4th the last 2 years. I think this year (more than any other year in recent memory), the local teams (from ALL racetracks) have more confidence than ever and will make it very difficult for the 10 Outlaw teams to dominate (heck, I don't think the Outlaws have gotten all their full-time teams in teh feature EVER in 32 years).
All I really hope for is GREAT RACING, a good time, and for those newbies attending the first time to make it an annual stop.
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It's all good... I don't always agree with the stuff you say, but respect it for the most part! Brown's biggest boost is acquiring strong motors and racing (and competing) with the best (the WoO). High HP + high confidence is what is fueling his fire. I agree that it makes a difference... and I'm not saying Meyers is going to win, or is even a favorite to win. I don't think he'll show up with tired, crappy equipment though and get his a$$ handed to him! He wants to win this race pretty bad and wouldn't even enter if he didn't think he had a shot. I think he'll be just fine... but maybe I'm wrong... guess we'll see!
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