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jlstew25
October 08, 2010 at 10:14:36 PM
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Anyone have color pics of the Larry Hill Super-Modified no. 11? I'm building a model of that car and need some info on it.


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brian26
October 09, 2010 at 07:52:14 AM
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Tobey Sampson might have some pics of that car. T-top car? Was that D E Suggs DX car? I might have a shot or two from Mike Monatoboy



brian26
October 09, 2010 at 07:57:00 AM
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I looked, I don't have it scanned. Uncle A might also have it.




brian26
October 09, 2010 at 07:59:26 AM
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I do have this

DEHillMoery.jpg picture by brian26_photos_2007



brian26
October 09, 2010 at 08:00:13 AM
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DEHillMoery-1.jpg



brian26
October 09, 2010 at 08:15:44 AM
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Model wise thinking here

Looks like a Grant King body (shortened tail), on a stretched Edmunds chassis. But, that may be a space frame- meaning the lower half of an '80s Monogram sprint car frame with an Edmunds style cage (stretched maybe). Front axle with buggy spring placed under the torsion bars. Might have to shorten the frame to get it just right. Hood is a 2-piece. That would make the hood fabrication a lot easier.

Paper clips would make great material for the bumpers and nerfs if they were the right thickness.

Those rear wheels could come from the AMT modified kits.

 

Just thinking............




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October 09, 2010 at 09:07:11 AM
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This message was edited on October 09, 2010 at 09:12:32 AM by Racing From The Past

 


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jlstew25
October 09, 2010 at 10:37:10 AM
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Thanks Warren. This is the car I was wanting to build. I'm working with an Edmunds chassis and I've stretched it out to scale 100". The hood and body panels have to be fabricated as well. Here are some pics of the work in progress:

 

 

 

Frame has been lengthened to scale 100"

White hood lengthened to fit longer wheelbase.


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October 09, 2010 at 11:20:20 AM
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I believe there are more photos of that car on the web. I will go through my site and see. There is one with D.E. setting in the car in pits at OKC I know.


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pokeyokie
October 09, 2010 at 12:57:30 PM
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Posted By: jlstew25 on October 09 2010 at 10:37:10 AM

Thanks Warren. This is the car I was wanting to build. I'm working with an Edmunds chassis and I've stretched it out to scale 100". The hood and body panels have to be fabricated as well. Here are some pics of the work in progress:

 

 

 

Frame has been lengthened to scale 100"

White hood lengthened to fit longer wheelbase.



John,

I think I can help you out with the photos of this car I took quite a few of it. I'll look through my photos and send some to you this week.

Mike



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October 09, 2010 at 03:19:23 PM
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Looking forward to the completed car. I painted the car yellow in1976.

Ray



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October 09, 2010 at 03:53:58 PM
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This message was edited on October 09, 2010 at 03:59:32 PM by Racing From The Past

If we could get Rusty Manning to rescan this in a higher resolution I'm sure it would be a great looking photo. Not that is not, but I know Rusty purchased a new negative scanner at the time and sent the first view in a real low resolution.

Both of the above were taken and contributed to Racing From The Past by Rusty Manning.


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yardfun
October 10, 2010 at 05:09:58 PM
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Stew25,

One thing I see is the Grant King style "halo" cage you have on this model. For the record, this was a Stapp car built in 1972 and had a conventional style rear hoop in the cage. You do have the frame correct as it does run under the headers.

Ray,

What was this cars status in 1976? Lee Osborne and George Snider ran it in 75 and Thad Doshier ran it in 77. All Silver Crown races.

If there is interest, I can provide a complete history of this car from new to present.

As far as vintage restorations go, this is the one I am "least proud of".

 

 

 



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October 10, 2010 at 07:22:08 PM
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Was Larry Hill a partner with Bub Kearney before 77 or during 77? Kearney was from NE Kansas Topeka (Valley Falls) area. Son is Sprint car racer John Kearney.


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Bkcr
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October 10, 2010 at 08:00:20 PM
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Posted By: yardfun on October 10 2010 at 05:09:58 PM

Stew25,

One thing I see is the Grant King style "halo" cage you have on this model. For the record, this was a Stapp car built in 1972 and had a conventional style rear hoop in the cage. You do have the frame correct as it does run under the headers.

Ray,

What was this cars status in 1976? Lee Osborne and George Snider ran it in 75 and Thad Doshier ran it in 77. All Silver Crown races.

If there is interest, I can provide a complete history of this car from new to present.

As far as vintage restorations go, this is the one I am "least proud of".

 

 

 



The car was an AMT kit with a 53 ford pickup and a trailer for the car. It was a USAC sprint car driven by Pancho Carter and I think it was built by Steve Stapp. It won the USAC championship in 73/74. I do not know the the history of the car it is probaly very interesting. Mabee somebody on this sight knows what happened to the car. I built the Sammy Swindell drove from the 82/83 season and the cars really changed in this time period. What are the readers comments about the change in the cars?

Ray

 




yardfun
October 10, 2010 at 10:35:54 PM
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Posted By: Racing From The Past on October 10 2010 at 07:22:08 PM

Was Larry Hill a partner with Bub Kearney before 77 or during 77? Kearney was from NE Kansas Topeka (Valley Falls) area. Son is Sprint car racer John Kearney.



I do not THINK Bub was involved in the Larry Hill / Thad Doshier / Stapp #24 Chanp car in 77.

Doshier put it on the pole at S'field on 8-20-77 and finished 22nd after a 2nd lap altercation with I believe Johny Parsons Jr.

Hill and Kearney did have a long term partnership starting in 78 when they built a new Nance Super with Dee Zelmer, Roy Bryant and Mike Peters driving. It was a red #10. Later Mike with David Grace wrenching had great sucess with the car. In 82 they converted this car to Silver Crown configuration, a black #86, with MP driving. It ended its racing life as a winged NCRA dirt champ car with MP, Ken Schrader, Shane Carson and TJ Giddings.



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October 11, 2010 at 07:11:11 AM
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This message was edited on October 11, 2010 at 10:43:22 AM by Racing From The Past
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Posted By: yardfun on October 10 2010 at 10:35:54 PM

I do not THINK Bub was involved in the Larry Hill / Thad Doshier / Stapp #24 Chanp car in 77.

Doshier put it on the pole at S'field on 8-20-77 and finished 22nd after a 2nd lap altercation with I believe Johny Parsons Jr.

Hill and Kearney did have a long term partnership starting in 78 when they built a new Nance Super with Dee Zelmer, Roy Bryant and Mike Peters driving. It was a red #10. Later Mike with David Grace wrenching had great sucess with the car. In 82 they converted this car to Silver Crown configuration, a black #86, with MP driving. It ended its racing life as a winged NCRA dirt champ car with MP, Ken Schrader, Shane Carson and TJ Giddings.



In March 1981 Mike Peters drove one of the best races that I ever saw. His primary car the Oches #1 broke in the heat race and he drove the #10 from the back of the B feature and won it then started from the back of the A feature and won it. A great drive.

Ray



jdsprint71
October 11, 2010 at 10:14:28 AM
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John, I might have a few pics of it , check and see.




uncle a
October 11, 2010 at 09:58:05 PM
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John, I know the first Larry Hill car that D.E. drove was the Hill-Morey red and gold #11 car. It was built by Carrol Nance for Larry Hill and Otto Morey, for driver, Steve Foster.

Check out the mild, young, Rick Knight lettering. Rick also lettered the #11

 




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October 14, 2010 at 12:41:20 AM
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1976 version courtesy of Mike Pogue and his collection. Photo is from the work of Tim Malone.


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