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September 22, 2009 at
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i always liked the dovetail Nance cars, and the Edmunds body style but my favorite car was the Parsons 67/68 car. didnt get to see it often but it was cool. also liked Big Jack Wickett's 75 and all of Howerton's creations.
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Posted By: GoSprintN on September 21 2009 at 11:29:26 PM
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Thats it
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Posted By: Bkcr on September 21 2009 at 01:58:28 PM
That sounds right I have not looked at my old programs or yearbooks but the nae crew sound right and I remember James Roberts around and wherever he was Howie was. i lived on the West side of Tulsa and James and his family lived there, James was a brother in law to Melvin Jerrigan at the time and they put that car together in Melvyn's garage. a friend of mine painted and helped on the car and I went over there a couple of times. I think it was a Nance frame that James and crew hung the body on. David will like this they had a colour picture of Dale's 67 and used it for a guide.
Ray
PS Melvyn Jerrigan was the builder and owner of the two Bill "T" record cars, #44&45 and was Ray Crawfords first super owner
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the only reason i knew that was i lived 3 houses down from the crew family and hung out with earls son...thats where i met sewell....
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September 23, 2009 at
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This was my first favorite. 
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September 23, 2009 at
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This is probably my all time favorite.
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Posted By: david_jones on September 23 2009 at 09:05:14 PM
This was my first favorite. 
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David,
This is a great shot of your dad, look at Doc Scott he's pretty spiffy looking also!!
BO & DE look pretty good to, this was what I call Dale's first offical Super Modified, his design and build, this car if I remember right was all stick rod for welding & had the 1-3/4 rear roll bar hoop.
I wonder what happened to this car???????
Your other pic was a great choice to be your favorite of all, it is 1 of my favorites also especially after your dad put the webers on it, any Super with webers sticking up through the hood was bitch'in.
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Posted By: DGM 7620 on September 23 2009 at 09:27:56 PM
David,
This is a great shot of your dad, look at Doc Scott he's pretty spiffy looking also!!
BO & DE look pretty good to, this was what I call Dale's first offical Super Modified, his design and build, this car if I remember right was all stick rod for welding & had the 1-3/4 rear roll bar hoop.
I wonder what happened to this car???????
Your other pic was a great choice to be your favorite of all, it is 1 of my favorites also especially after your dad put the webers on it, any Super with webers sticking up through the hood was bitch'in.
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I don't know what happened to either of these cars, but I would LOVE to someday find one of them and restore it.
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In the early days of the site I'm thinking someone wrote me and said one of the Parsons cars made it to Tulsa in the 70's. I will try to search my memory banks in my brain. But I'm pretty sure they said it was wrecked but was in somebodies garage at that time. I'm thinking it was the #4. Ron Fowler drove his last race in it at Enid in 77 or 78.
I also had an e-mail that said one of the Jackie Howerton cars, Maybe the former Terry Doss car was still in a garage. He said the guy was considering making it a street rod type car. You know how stories get started and maybe I just started one, but I'm sure that was the jist of the e-mails.
I use to get hundreds of e-mails. It got to where I couldn't keep up with them. Probably made a lot of viewers mad. I use to have my e-mail on every page. I don't do that anymore.
Anybody out that can confirm the above e-mails chime in here.
http://www.cafepress.com/rftp
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The Harrington's were maybe the last ones that had it. But I don't know if that is who supposedly has it now.
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Posted By: Racing From The Past on September 24 2009 at 06:44:33 PM
In the early days of the site I'm thinking someone wrote me and said one of the Parsons cars made it to Tulsa in the 70's. I will try to search my memory banks in my brain. But I'm pretty sure they said it was wrecked but was in somebodies garage at that time. I'm thinking it was the #4. Ron Fowler drove his last race in it at Enid in 77 or 78.
I also had an e-mail that said one of the Jackie Howerton cars, Maybe the former Terry Doss car was still in a garage. He said the guy was considering making it a street rod type car. You know how stories get started and maybe I just started one, but I'm sure that was the jist of the e-mails.
I use to get hundreds of e-mails. It got to where I couldn't keep up with them. Probably made a lot of viewers mad. I use to have my e-mail on every page. I don't do that anymore.
Anybody out that can confirm the above e-mails chime in here.
http://www.cafepress.com/rftp
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The Terry Doss car is being restored by a notable collector in Claremore.
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Here's where I got the info. I knew when I post this way back when viewers were probably burning up the phone line or wearing out the concrete on their sidewalk.
I wish I could get Olen to recontribute the photos. In the transition from one server to another only 3 or photos got lost.
Photo contributed by Olen "Whopper" Serner James "Goggles" Gillispie with the last Jackie Howerton built 100" Champ Dirt Car at Tulsa in the 82 era. James drove this car with appearances in the car by Jackie Howerton and also Terry Doss and Ron Shuman (during an off weekend with the WoO). Although James didn't manage to get any real great finishes in the car. Jackie won an A Feature in his 2nd appearance in it. Terry also managed some good finishes. On a side note this car is still owned by James. I guess James has either thought about turning into a street rod of freshing it up and making some vintage meets. Lets hope he chooses the latter. As this car being a Howerton Chassis definitely has some historic value, let alone it is 100" car on its own merits. I'm sure the phone might be ringing at Jame's house now.
http://www.racingfromthepast.com/dirtchamps/80slap10index11.html
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Posted By: Racing From The Past on September 24 2009 at 07:02:54 PM
The Harrington's were maybe the last ones that had it. But I don't know if that is who supposedly has it now.
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Jack Wickett drove it in 1976. Orange #6
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Posted By: mlcole on September 24 2009 at 11:47:47 PM
Jack Wickett drove it in 1976. Orange #6
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#4 Monty, Even with my memory I remembered that after I looked at the photo LOL. What did you have for breakfast yesterday?? LOL six is two keys down from 4 so it can't be a typo, LOL. I know breakfast was maybe 16 hours ago before you posted it. Maybe you need to be having Cheerios or Wheaties, something healthy not Cape Crunch. You even contibuted the photos of the #4, I think without looking. LOL, LOL.
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Posted By: DGM 7620 on September 23 2009 at 09:27:56 PM
David,
This is a great shot of your dad, look at Doc Scott he's pretty spiffy looking also!!
BO & DE look pretty good to, this was what I call Dale's first offical Super Modified, his design and build, this car if I remember right was all stick rod for welding & had the 1-3/4 rear roll bar hoop.
I wonder what happened to this car???????
Your other pic was a great choice to be your favorite of all, it is 1 of my favorites also especially after your dad put the webers on it, any Super with webers sticking up through the hood was bitch'in.
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David is this the orange 67 that Dale drove in 73? If it is, it is the car that James Eubanks had a picture of it on the wall to us as a guide for the body on his new car in 74.
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Posted By: david_jones on September 23 2009 at 09:06:20 PM
This is probably my all time favorite.
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It appears to me the #68 is a cross spring front and the #33 is a coil over front end.....Luther
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Posted By: Bkcr on September 25 2009 at 09:35:23 AM
David is this the orange 67 that Dale drove in 73? If it is, it is the car that James Eubanks had a picture of it on the wall to us as a guide for the body on his new car in 74.
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Bkcr,
The orange T-Top single rail springer was the car DP ran in '73 that is the car that David has posted the pic of #68 with DE in it. This was DP 's first house car. It is also the car that the Harrington's had #4 that Big Jack other's drove.
Luther,
You are correct about the #68 it was a spring front car, however the #33 was a Walker space frame with parallel bars on the front not coil-overs, it was cross torsion rear. Walkers built alot of Super Modifieds with parallel bars on the front, one idea they came up with that nobody ever persued that I think would have been trick was a cross torsion front with only 1 radius rod on the bottom of the axle then the torsion arm attached to the top of the axle with no upper radius rod on the right side. I believe Bobby's last car was constructed this way and he was pretty successful with it. I think they also built Bruce Moss & Troy Matchen cars that were configured that way also.
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Posted By: DGM 7620 on September 25 2009 at 08:53:52 PM
Bkcr,
The orange T-Top single rail springer was the car DP ran in '73 that is the car that David has posted the pic of #68 with DE in it. This was DP 's first house car. It is also the car that the Harrington's had #4 that Big Jack other's drove.
Luther,
You are correct about the #68 it was a spring front car, however the #33 was a Walker space frame with parallel bars on the front not coil-overs, it was cross torsion rear. Walkers built alot of Super Modifieds with parallel bars on the front, one idea they came up with that nobody ever persued that I think would have been trick was a cross torsion front with only 1 radius rod on the bottom of the axle then the torsion arm attached to the top of the axle with no upper radius rod on the right side. I believe Bobby's last car was constructed this way and he was pretty successful with it. I think they also built Bruce Moss & Troy Matchen cars that were configured that way also.
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There were several of the Walker Parrnell bar cars in Tulsa but they would not handle here as good as they could at other tracks. Just about everybody here sold the Walker cars and got a a chassis with cross bars front and back. I am not a chassis expert but would like to her opinions why they did not work on the big Tulsa track.
Ray
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From the Jack Wickett Collection contributed by Monte Cole
Jack Wicket and the #4 owned by the Harrington's. This was a Parson Racing Chassis. Photo #350 Webmaster's note: I believe this might be the same super that Ron Fowler from Chanute, KS drove at the Enid Winternationals in 1975, before he retired???
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i think Jay Woodside and Shane Carson may have driven this car too
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