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could someone post the final word on this please. Steve Smith won the pro stock feature - and was protested after........could someone please post the result of this asap?

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

I heard the protest was from another driver that did not even finish the race, but had one of the other drivers that did finish submit the protest. If that is true THATS BULL SHIT!!! In my opinion when you cross the scales you should make your protest known then , not when everybody has gone to the pits crying and bitchin so they can find a sucker to do it for them because they got their ass out run again!!!!!

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

Talked to Steve just as i was walking out the gate. They coildn't find a damn thing wrong. hehehehe

The 14 car was legal. I heard they checked alot of stuff to.

Congratys Steve and Gary and the rest of the crew.

Thanks for the quick info Dale.

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

No problem.

All drivers like to think that they are

Steve Smith is.............................

No need to look at the guns, look at the gunslinger.

Steve Smith and Gary Stevens (the car owner) are known among the Pro Stock class for their tendency to make illegal (according to the state Fair Speedway rule book) modifications to their car. The other drivers that have worked hard in both time and money to go to the race track every Friday night and put on a good show are the ones that are penalized. The majority of fans have no idea how much time and money goes into these cars. They also have no idea what goes on down in the pits because they're sitting in the stands eating their corndogs, drinking their beer, and driving from the grandstand. You can go the the State Fair Speedway website and view the rules (for everyone except Smith & Stevens), that supposedly dictates what is legal & illegal. Evidently, there are two sets of those rules, one for them & one for everyone else.

The other drivers have suspected illegal equipment all season. Last night, the lifters and motor heads were looked at. The heads had been ground and to those inspecting the motor, the issue with the lifters was questionable. Also, the A-arm had been extended. These are all illegal according to the rule book (there was a copy there). However, Lanny Edwards (the track manager) said that he had the final say. His say-so overrides the rule book, evidently. Therefore, all of the other drivers that put on a show for the fans and do it by the book are screwed to their knees on a weekly basis. There is also a rumor going around (whether valid or not) that Smith has been using a computerized card to enhance traction control. There is no way to catch him at that because he supposedly slips the card in before the race starts and removes it before going over the scales and slips it into his driving suit pocket. Now that's just a rumor, but if true, reflects his ethics.

So you see, unless you are pretty knowledgable about the rules and regulations and know how these cars are supposed to be put together, it's easy to drive from the grandstands. And unless you're putting your hard earned money and time into building and maintaining one of these cars, you have no comprehension what really's really going on. The illegal equipment that another driver uses and the political BS that goes on behind the scenes doesn't affect you at all. The only thing you have invested is the money for your corndogs and beer. Those that take pride in their hard work and ethics are the ones that feel the consequences of those that have no ethics.

In answer to this post, nothing was done, and it's politics as usual at the Speedway.

In answer to some of the previous posts, the bullshit is that you don't know what you're talking about.

On the SFS website, the four winners are posted from last night but also notice this statement.

Due to post race issues the results and points from Friday night have changed.

It wasn't on the website earlier today.

Anybody know what that's about?

Well it's like this my earlier post....... I was talking about protest in general, I do not give a damn who the driver or the car owner is or who works on the car. A protest should be made when you enter the inspection area and before you leave it.I just think it is BS when after a race a promoter lets it happen well after the race is over. And then he over rules his own rules, why the hell does he have them to begin with. I have worked for promoters and or track owners like this in the past it just does not work after awhile it will bite you in the ASS!!!

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

Randy, with the current format at SFS how do you expect a Driver protest at the same time of Cars rolling across the scales and Cars rolling onto the Track for the next race all at the same time. That along with favouritism basically means....you are good to go. Nobody has a chance to post a protest until the Track is clear. My understanding is that if you finish in the top five of any given race you are eligable to protest within 15 minutes of any completed race.

Let's just say that if any Race Team has to cheat to Win, you are only cheating yourself. I think we all learned this in Kindergarten. And then there is "Thou shall not steal". Cheating is the same as Stealing no matter how you look at it.

It's still there, I just read it.

Ted Sanderson

And that is why it is all screwed up at SFS the format sucks thats my point. And untill it changes and we all know it won't it will be screwed up, It does not work for everybody just certain people.

 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

Your right,Steve don't work on the 14 car. He only works on his 83s. He is a superb driver. If in fact Gary does use illegal parts why does it always pass inspection? Oh, your right too about the wheel infraction. Steve didn't know.

Aug. 14
Terry Holland
Super Sprints
Steve Smith
Pro Stocks
Doug Bragg
USA Modified
Randy Thomas
Limited Modified
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Points and results will be posted by Wed. pm .
Due to post race issues the results and points from Friday night have changed

Isnt the Rule also that you have to finish on the lead lap of the race to protest, if so that narrows it down on who put up the money???????????

David Foley

"Just let me make it to the Dirt Track.. Truck then u 
can break down!!!"

If that rule is right....there were only 2 cars on the lead lap.....and the 14 was one of them.

The heads were ground? Where? How much? What is the issue with the lifters? How much has the A arm been extended? Do you have any knowledge of any of this or is it just stuff you heard? Anyone can say things like "well his heads are ground and he uses a traction computer device".

You talk about us dumb corn dog eating beer drinking fans not knowing anything, please shed some light on this subject. Usually someone who is good around cars will refer to the thing under the hood as an "engine". A motor is electric, an engine is gas powered. And you don't grind heads, you mill them. Sounds like you work under a big nice shady oak tree. LOL

"They're steering them sum bi***es with their right 
foot!"

All "terminology" aside, this is what found. The facts are that there were issues found regarding the car that went against what the rules stated was legal. I'm not going to go into the details because it's irrelevant since these issues were overruled. And I don't work under a shade tree. I have a nice, big 40' x 60' shop with a car lift and toolboxes full of tools, and a big fan blowing on me while I work. And I know more about building and maintaining one of these cars than you ever will. Now go back to your dictionary and car manuals. And get a good seat on Friday night.

By the way, you "mill" heads for minimum horsepower, but you "grind" heads for maximum horsepower. Be sure to get an extra corndog. LOL