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To the people who organize it and make the schedule...do better.. Ohio Speedweek shits all over us. You have zero validation when it comes to scheduling 6 races at 3 tracks. Our "big 3" excuse...not valid. Logistical reasons....not valid.  Whatever dumbass reasons you think you have....not valid. We have the perfect tracks to have absolutely the best sprint car Speedweek on the planet and you fuck it up because of your "we want to support the tracks that run 410s weekly excuse. "  Turn it over to someone else. 

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Agreed, it's totally ridiculous. 3 tracks each having 2 dates makes it 6 days already. That's 1 day short of a "week" last I checked. It's all about money though. Those 3 tracks draw the most cars and hold the most fans. They never should have started this trend because these shows are huge money makers and there is no way those tracks will agree to give up their extra show. 

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Unless the track owners are making the schedule I wouldnt think the tracks have the power to not give up their 2 shows. The scheduler has all the power to only give one show. But that philosophy only works if the scheduler is a 3rd party which I doubt is the case.

Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!

Good question.... who's in charge?

The press releases reference a PA Sprint Speed Week "Association", and Alan Kreitzer is usually the one that quotes are attributed to. 

If you look at the crowds on Monday nights at Lincoln, and look at the crowds at Port Royal and Hagerstown on Wednesdays and Thursdays (they sometimes switch days), there is no way they are going back to one date. If crowds dwindle during the week, it may change, but for the foreseeable future they aren't messing with the schedule. 
 

if Lincoln or Port Royal rainout and only have a single date, that would be a big hit to them. I'm all for one date each with a rain date built in for one or both. 

Totally agree. This time at least they added BAPS. There is enough tracks to give other PA track a chance to make Money. Also having Hagerstown in PA speedweek is a joke as well. Bedford, Big Diamond,BAPS, Path Valley,. Ohio gets more cars as it is Allstar based. Seems like consistency with drivers. PA drivers pick and choose which ones they want to do and no sanction cars for a crowd draw. Very few do the entire week. Also have fans contributing to teams with donations but not sure we have anything like that.

Wish that Flo would have stepped up a little since last year you only needed DirtVision (Williams Grove) and Flo had the rest of the action. 

This year: 

DirtVision:  Williams Grove
Flo:  Lincoln, Port Royal, Grandview
SprintCarUnlimitedTV:  BAPS ($29), Hagerstown ($27), Selnsgrove ($27) (pay per each event).  $83 for those three shows alone, that's over half of what you pay for a year of Flo.  Sigh.  I get the tracks want to have their piece of the pie, too... but I imagine those will be the three least watched of the week now on streaming. 

All these other poor imitations of THE Ohio Speedweek need to just give it up. Stop embarassing yourselves. 

Interesting, another topic that people want to complain about something because they just want to complain. Lets look at the alternatives:

1.  Path Valley - I would say a majority of drivers do not like how small it is (tearing up equipment wise).  Fred Rahmer had the deal to run it and the rumor had it that he some sort of clause that a 410 race couldn't be held for three years after the contract was over (again only speculation).  That being said, without someone like Fred running it, I do not think the current owner could run something of this scale by themselves.

2. Bedford - Probably a bit too far for a lot of guys and the cost of travel by taking the Turnpike doesn't help anyone.

3. Trailways - Never going to happen.

4. Baps - On the schedule for the first time in a long time.  Interesting that they were left off the Eastern Storm schedule.  Maybe the wingless guys got tired of not being able to see in a dust storm at Baps every year.  Again only speculation, I have no idea why they are not there

6. Grandview - Traditionally has one night and still does, hopefully the surface is better then the Eastern Storm race.

7. Selingsgrove - Still on the schedule - not usually well supported when the 410's race there.

8. Hagerstown - Probably the one place that doesn't belong but has been on the schedule since the beginning. However if you drop Hagerstown, where do replace it based on the above issues?

Williams Grove, Licoln and Port Royal put the most time, effort and money into the 410 division and should be rewarded by doing so.  You may not like on of these tracks but the bottom line is they support them week in and week out, so saying they shouldn't have two dates during speedweek isn't a logical arguement, only a personal conflict with one or all of those tracks.

At least PA Speedweek doesn't go to Sharon...that was embarrassing last night. I can't remember a track that sucked all night like that. Awful from time trials to the A main. 

who gives a shit if they support 410's. If you want to introduce new fans and also get these guys out of there comfort zone you go to new tracks! It's that simple, but no we will only race 90% at these tracks....bs. Hell even California has 5 day speedweek this year again and NOT one repeat track and the TRAVEL is definitely longer than Pennsylvania(the way you talk it's like Pennsylvania is the size of Texas or California lol). So stop with the bs about travel. It will never hold the candle like Ohio does!

Where's my beer or scotch on the rocks? God-damn it! 40 
plus years of dirt track racing in these old veins might 
get me condemned by the EPA.

Meh, Sharon is generally a good track but all are prone to have a bad race or two. Most races I have either seen in person or watched have been pretty good. Only 1 other time do I remember it being worst and that was the whole tire debacle in 2012 when all but 1 or 2 drivers blew tires. In most cases, every state & speedweek would love to have a track like Sharon. Not every track will be perfect

Sucked for most of the feature when it took rubber sure, but all night? When can you name a night with 5 heats where not one was won from the pole? I counted 5 cars that missed the invert that made it to the A in their heat and the B-main transfers started from 1, 5, 6, and 7.

How many wrecks happened in qualifying? More last night than probably all season. 

Why do all these clowns have a hard on against Hagerstown? It is 1 of the nicest 1/2 miles & it comes with the ability to pass. If the argument is because it is located in Md than you must whine if your yolk is broken in sunny side ups!   Another thing is there are 7 days in a week, wh the need for 3 more dates. Car counts only suffer more after speedweek because of lack of budgets.

You knew the track was going to be bad when the drivers started smacking the wall in warm ups & time trials. Funny how folks will try to defend the track.....the track was just bad. Probably the first dirt race all year where Larson struggled to move up FOUR SPOTS in the feature. Other than Cole Duncan (a slick track specialist) no one moved forward....Hopefully Waynesfield is better tonight!

You Guys do know that there are 7 tracks involved but there are 10 races? Most of the tracks mentioned have tried and can not handle the crowd size and purse that the three everyone is commplaining about having two. Also Lincoln and Port both give up a Sat. night of 410's for Speedweek. So you want them to do that and maybe get nothing in return especially if one is rained out. Last year I think all races got in but that seldom happens. Also The Grove's first one did not count as speedweek then they decided to up the purse for the night and start speedweek a day earlier. Do you think the teams bitch as much about the increased purse that night as a couple of dozen fans do? I have been to races in several states and other than the premier events I am pretty sure most fans don't understand the crowd size at most Pa. Speedweeek races. I am pretty sure it will be successful again this year.

Last year was by far and away the best Speedweek in Pa. that I

remember but unfortunately this year they have comp. with the big shows in the Midwest on Friday and Saturday

Last year they had many Outsiders fallow the whole series I wonder if anf will this year.