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Just read a article written by a man named Andrew Lawrence from the Guardian on Kyle Lawrence and supposedly the only "African American" writer who writes articles on Nascar.  This article was top to bottom a discusting hack job on Kyle, the individuals who attend the races and the entirety racing family.

I goes on to say many disparaging things about Kyle Larson, ensinuates he's forsaken his Japanese heritage but taken awards for it and now using the "N" word.   He states that sponsors, owners and Nascar have given passes to drivers and issues. How they all turn blind eyes to self serving issues and how Nascar allows Dixie Flags to be wove, MAGA hats to be worn and in general we are a bunch of red neck predjudice hillbillys.   Same old crap. And is a MAGA hat bad? Why?

Nothing was written about the "African American" professional baseball player (Marcus Stroman) who challenged to a fight Kyle Larson and stated so publicly and has been stated in many articles throughout the country and as well on Television. But the writer failed to add this bit in his hit job on Kyle Larson and racing.

I would add this, how it's funny the Liberal Media and it's ilk always preaches tolerance, tolerance tolerance except when it dosent serve there masters who in this case is the one wishing to divide the people by tribalism and color.  Yes Kyle Larson made a obvious mistake and in a massive forum but how far must we go when tying someone to the whipping post before an indiviual has given his pound of flesh?  He lost his sponsors, his owner and his career with its millions.  He lost his self dignity, hes been publicly shamed and looked down upon by his peers and ones he looks up to.  And been threatened in public by another professional athlete.

I hope many read this and will write the Guardian and chastize Andrew Lawrence and his hit job, write Nascar for its lack of tolerence and standing by their young drivers and write the sponsors for caving into pulling the plug on this young race car driver who made a mistake. Funny how many football players, many that do far worse and yet the Media screams tolerance and second chance for those individuals. Not for Kyle Larson ! What a shame that we have given one word so much value and made it such a weapon to use and use against.

Im sorry Kyle you made the mistake you did, but believe me your still a good guy full of promise and talent and can come back from this tragic issue we face in America were one group uses a word to hurt and another uses it to ruin.  So who's right and who gets hurt the most? In this case I'd say Kyle Larson. 

Keep your chin up Kyle this too shall pass.

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CAJ

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/16/kyle-larson-fired-driver-n-word-nascar-motor-sports

I thought it was a good article...Especially the statement about the sad truth.

"No doubt Larson is the biggest loser in all this. But mark my words: he’ll recover. To paraphrase the activist filmmaker Tariq Nasheed: Traffickers of white supremacy are transferred, not fired, only to return “rehabilitated”

I agree with this 100% --- The Liberal Media can not ridicule the Basebal Player for physical violence because it doesnt agree with their agenda.  Forgiving him for his outburst does. Unlike Kyle Larsons mistake for using the N word.  Kyle Larson is cosidered WHITE even though he is half Japanese, so he is the BAD WHITE MAN he can not be forgiven because 1 he is a MAN and 2 He is a WHITE MAN. He shuld be drawn and quartered on main street immediately.  This is what our Society has turned into.  How bout we treat everyone equally instead of a lopsided Liberal Agenda 

I think its very sad the way everything gets broken down by what political party you belong to or whether you are liberal or conservative here in America!  We are all still Americans no matter what political affliation we are and that has seemed to have been buried especially the last 3 to 4 years!  

Watch this Prager U video. Then you will understand what tolerance means to the Left.

www.prageru.com/video/the-intolerance-of-tolerance/

so to recap.. its pretty much all the Liberal Media's fault... find a mirror. look in it.. see if you don't have your helmet on backwards..

It's not the "liberal media's" fault that Larson decided to use a racial slur. If you don't want the "liberal media" to report it, the solution is extremely simple -- don't use a racial slur.

Larson is the one who made the entire sport look like racist, inbred, hillbilly rednecks, not the media who merely reprted what he said.

hey, been reading all the post`s about kyle, i think enough is enough, how bout we let this pass, kyle`s already beatin himself up over this, don`t you think thats enough? its easy to pile on somebody when there down, especially behind a keyboard, he made a big mistake, i know! some think it was more then a mistake, ok, i get it, still, lets move on, with whats going on in our world right now, i think we can can put our energy towards something else, before i get tore up over this, lets all take a good look at our selves, a damn good look, is there something in your life you`d take back if you could? i think we all know the answer to that, peace out, and be safe!

It's called a "forum".  You may want to look up the word before telling us all that you have heard enough...  is it possible that you also have your helmet on backwards ????

and remember...   a good race fan never ever throws a full beer can....

We all knew that the non-racing media was going to jump on this.  NASCAR has been trying to branch out to the masses and get past their southern redneck stereotype for decades so we knew they would come down hard on anything like this.  We knew that corporate sponsors would discontinue their support.

The more I think about it the more I'm baffled that any NASCAR driver would use that term even among their friends.  I am also baffled as to why young people would be emulating rappers and gangster types as nothing good can come from that behavior  I'm guessing that when NASCAR drivers are groomed through the system they have to get a ton of advice and likely some training on their public conduct.  We will see a steady stream of these types of articles for a while so get used to it.  

Stan Meissner

yes, i know what a forum is, do you know you can`t look in the mirror if your helmets on backwards? 

well said...  a full beer can for U

The thread states he made a mistake and yes sadly the lines have been drawn in all aspects of American life as this so-called writer went after a young man for a really dumb mistake which should have consequences but the lost of everything but his life? My god man seriously.  

Kyle Larson is family to all who love racing. Many of us have watched him since he could get in a go cart,  many after he came into Nascar.  We all are amazed at his talents and 99.9 % of his behavior is beyond reproach.  

It amazes me a couple threads just want this debate to end and go away.  Sounds like they dont understand the whole issue, the use of a vile word, the lose of career and income and many, many people hurt who had nothing to do with this.  Yes and Im saying like maybe his family, direct and indirectly who will be ridiculed for what?  Its easy to dismiss him entirely and place a scarlet letter on him, but many, many down the line also get hurt.

  Yes Kyle Larson bares the majority of the shame but damn how about a little forgiveness and understanding from his supposedly close quarter people ie; Chip and Nascar, Cap One and McDonalds just worried about their money and Kyle well he's expendable right?

And for Mr. Lawrence and his projected righteousness I know of his kind and how they operate and as someone said above his day will come very soon.  Its funny but my Father told me many times growing up the ones who are quick to condemn and criticize usually are the ones who are the biggest offender of what their objecting too. 

CAJ

The word Larson used is awful. He is paying the price. Please stop unloading on the guy... He has a family. You dont think it crushes him explaining to his little boy what's going on? The Guardian article is a joke. Larson is not a racist.. He wasnt maliciously attacking someone with the word. In fact youtube a song by Drake and tell me how many times you hear that word in his songs. I have also heard that same word used many times on the playground playing basketball and between black friends and acquaintances.

However this does not excuse his use of it. Everyone on this forum does not live under a rock. The PC culture in this country is absurd and contradicting at times. The Guardian also went on to basically say anyone that is a fan of Nascar or even racing is a redneck racist hillbilly. This tit for that is no good.

Larson is sorry, embarrassed, and ashamed. He will grow and learn from this. I supported him before this and will continue to now. If some of you really wanna get political about it, let's do it.

I wonder how many people would have noticed if his friends wouldn't have commented and he wouldn't have shown his own disgust? How many people would even watch a race like that?

Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!

RodinCanada.I watch lot of racing but don't watch the Iracing stuff..Never knew any of this until I saw it on Facebook in the afternoon next day..He is paying the price and I bet there is NOT one person who hasn't use any kind of racial slur in their life..