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Topic: Fremont - ASCoC Speedweek Finale Results 6-27-09 Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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rpaulson
June 27, 2009 at 10:15:28 PM
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Results are posted at:

http://www.fremontohspeedway.com/

 




Smitty51
June 27, 2009 at 10:26:25 PM
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I assume Stevie won the Ohio Speedweek title since he was quick time & Chaney was a DNQ?


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dsc1600
June 27, 2009 at 11:14:36 PM
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Stevie Smith is Ohio Speedweek champion for 2009. He had a tremendous week.




LatshPA
June 28, 2009 at 01:46:29 AM
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He's having a pretty good year...the Zemco team has now won the dirtcar nationals in Florida, the Keystone Cup in PA, and Ohio Speedweek. Even missing a race, I wouldn't count them out in PA Speedweek





Scoop
June 28, 2009 at 06:46:48 AM
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Yea, that team is pretty stout right now.

Has anyone ever won both OH & PA speedweeks?


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WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
June 28, 2009 at 08:56:08 AM
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Does the PA Speedweek have a point fund? Stevie sounded kinda disappointed in his interview that all his hard work all week in Ohio only got him a handshake and a pat on the back for being the Ohio Speedweek Champ.


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singlefile
June 28, 2009 at 10:50:56 AM
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Posted By: WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot on June 28 2009 at 08:56:08 AM

Does the PA Speedweek have a point fund? Stevie sounded kinda disappointed in his interview that all his hard work all week in Ohio only got him a handshake and a pat on the back for being the Ohio Speedweek Champ.



I haven't seen a point fund breakdown for this year's PA Speedweek, but there is always a point fund. I believe it pays something like $3,000 to win and pays back seven spots. That does seem incredibly lame for Stevie Smith to travel to Ohio, win the Speedweek title and receive nothing.



Scoop
June 28, 2009 at 11:37:30 AM
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This message was edited on June 28, 2009 at 11:39:58 AM by Scoop

Stevie didn't exactly "receive nothing"! Walked away with a lot of winnings. He knew before the week started that there was no overall point fund, but he ran the whole deal anyway. Outstanding week with averge car count of about 50. (high 60, low 42)


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singlefile
June 28, 2009 at 11:58:20 AM
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Posted By: Scoop on June 28 2009 at 11:37:30 AM

Stevie didn't exactly "receive nothing"! Walked away with a lot of winnings. He knew before the week started that there was no overall point fund, but he ran the whole deal anyway. Outstanding week with averge car count of about 50. (high 60, low 42)



I guess I worded my previous post poorly. Just surprised me because I didn't realize there was not a point fund for Ohio Speedweek. It was great to see that every night had such huge car counts out there all week. That was a welcome respite from the "ZOMG, 410 racing is dying because I don't get to see any in my local area" posts.




nancespeedequipment1n
June 28, 2009 at 03:37:03 PM
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It was good to see danny smith get a win he needed that.



dsc1600
June 28, 2009 at 04:29:48 PM
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I went to every race but Lima and all races were well attended and had great car counts. Absurd to have no point fund, even if each race track put in $500 or $1,000, you could have given out a decent point fund.



JC
June 28, 2009 at 05:23:16 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on June 28 2009 at 04:29:48 PM

I went to every race but Lima and all races were well attended and had great car counts. Absurd to have no point fund, even if each race track put in $500 or $1,000, you could have given out a decent point fund.



The Calender Girls had to be paid. Calender Girls or Point Fund????? I better stop there.




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June 28, 2009 at 06:20:34 PM
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Congrats to Stevie Smith for the 2 wins and speedweek championship.Bum deal on having to change the tire last nite.The owner told us there was a header leak so the fluid was spraying all over the tire and started to melt it.From eleventh to third not a bad night.



John Katich
June 28, 2009 at 06:25:58 PM
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The tracks made money, the series sold some merchandize and collected sanction fees from track promoters who made a wise investment (Ohio Speedweek dates are highly coveted money makers), the race teams raced for a large purse each night (and the best made some good money), the fans saw some really great racing and fields of over 40 to up to 60 cars each night and someone like Stevie Smith and the Zemco team was happy to make the trip.

And some of you are griping about the lack of a point fund...why don't you just get your own wallets out and take care of business if it's so important to have a point fund. Bet there isn't one next year, either. Of course, buying a ticket (or posting on a message board) should entitle some of you to tell track promoters and the All Star Circuit of Champions how best to spend their resources.

What this shows me is this...and I know it's going to tick someof you off who have no investment in the process...point funds don't matter. FAST is not affecting anything at Attica/Fremont in terms of fan attendance or car counts (regarless of how they want to spin it) and a point fund wouldn't have affected car counts at Ohio Speedweek. I do believe just about every Speedweek race had car counts bigger than the Knoxville WoO show (41), even with what amounts to forced attendance for the locals (points awared toward "Championship Cup"wink.

You know, if tracks make money and the series brings the cars, quality sprint car racing will be successful. I'll bet a good bit of profits from Speedweek get reinvested into the future to keep racing as good as it is in Ohio. I tend to believe those folks know best on how to invest their resources.

Some people are just never happy. I'm sure I've ticked some of you people off again but I don't really give a damn. I just think it's important that you get both sides of the (non)-issue.



singlefile
June 28, 2009 at 07:56:21 PM
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This message was edited on June 28, 2009 at 08:00:35 PM by singlefile
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Posted By: John Katich on June 28 2009 at 06:25:58 PM

The tracks made money, the series sold some merchandize and collected sanction fees from track promoters who made a wise investment (Ohio Speedweek dates are highly coveted money makers), the race teams raced for a large purse each night (and the best made some good money), the fans saw some really great racing and fields of over 40 to up to 60 cars each night and someone like Stevie Smith and the Zemco team was happy to make the trip.

And some of you are griping about the lack of a point fund...why don't you just get your own wallets out and take care of business if it's so important to have a point fund. Bet there isn't one next year, either. Of course, buying a ticket (or posting on a message board) should entitle some of you to tell track promoters and the All Star Circuit of Champions how best to spend their resources.

What this shows me is this...and I know it's going to tick someof you off who have no investment in the process...point funds don't matter. FAST is not affecting anything at Attica/Fremont in terms of fan attendance or car counts (regarless of how they want to spin it) and a point fund wouldn't have affected car counts at Ohio Speedweek. I do believe just about every Speedweek race had car counts bigger than the Knoxville WoO show (41), even with what amounts to forced attendance for the locals (points awared toward "Championship Cup"wink.

You know, if tracks make money and the series brings the cars, quality sprint car racing will be successful. I'll bet a good bit of profits from Speedweek get reinvested into the future to keep racing as good as it is in Ohio. I tend to believe those folks know best on how to invest their resources.

Some people are just never happy. I'm sure I've ticked some of you people off again but I don't really give a damn. I just think it's important that you get both sides of the (non)-issue.



Holy spin control. This post should be well received. LOL A complete shill for Guy Webb and the All Stars coming on here and saying that paying customers should not have an opinion. The fans did get out their wallet and "take care of business". Was the front gate admission free every night? People actually paying the freight at races throughout the year have a lot more reason to have an opinion than a Guy Webb Internet policeman.

I am not a WoO fan at all, but what does the car count at an ASCoC race in Ohio have to do with the car count at a WoO race in Knoxville? There are a hell of a lot more 410 Sprints in Ohio than there are in Iowa.

The line about point funds don't matter is complete BS. Ask some of the teams in PA why they don't skip races in the middle of the year to travel elsewhere. It's because they are running for the point fund. The same is true for the point fund at Knoxville.




PowerSlave
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June 28, 2009 at 08:12:37 PM
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Posted By: John Katich on June 28 2009 at 06:25:58 PM

The tracks made money, the series sold some merchandize and collected sanction fees from track promoters who made a wise investment (Ohio Speedweek dates are highly coveted money makers), the race teams raced for a large purse each night (and the best made some good money), the fans saw some really great racing and fields of over 40 to up to 60 cars each night and someone like Stevie Smith and the Zemco team was happy to make the trip.

And some of you are griping about the lack of a point fund...why don't you just get your own wallets out and take care of business if it's so important to have a point fund. Bet there isn't one next year, either. Of course, buying a ticket (or posting on a message board) should entitle some of you to tell track promoters and the All Star Circuit of Champions how best to spend their resources.

What this shows me is this...and I know it's going to tick someof you off who have no investment in the process...point funds don't matter. FAST is not affecting anything at Attica/Fremont in terms of fan attendance or car counts (regarless of how they want to spin it) and a point fund wouldn't have affected car counts at Ohio Speedweek. I do believe just about every Speedweek race had car counts bigger than the Knoxville WoO show (41), even with what amounts to forced attendance for the locals (points awared toward "Championship Cup"wink.

You know, if tracks make money and the series brings the cars, quality sprint car racing will be successful. I'll bet a good bit of profits from Speedweek get reinvested into the future to keep racing as good as it is in Ohio. I tend to believe those folks know best on how to invest their resources.

Some people are just never happy. I'm sure I've ticked some of you people off again but I don't really give a damn. I just think it's important that you get both sides of the (non)-issue.



You just earned the asshole tag, John. FAST has nothing to do with this, yet you decided to take an unwarranted shot at them anyways. What those gentlemen have managed to accomplish in this terrible economy is near to amazing and they should be commended for their efforts, not used as a punch line in some misguided attempt by some fool in Iowa that doesn't have the slightest clue of the efforts being put forth 3 states away.

The more that you open your piehole and spout it, the more you make yourself look like an irrelivant loser that is out of touch with reality. You have become a pundit. You lack perspective because you have chosen to politisize the situation rather than taking a broad view of the situation. Therefore, your views on the situation are approximately and roughly as accurate and meaningfull as your predictions of car counts that you made earlier in the season.

Ohio racing is about Ohio racers and the visiting racers that choose to visit our great state and tracks. It has never been and never will be about Guy Webb, John Katich or any other croney/loser that wants to throw their unwanted 2cents into the hat. The sooner that you and your puppet master realize that you need us more than we need you and start acting accordingly, the sooner that the situation will begin to correct itself. The promoters in this state could drop the allstar sanction and run the speedweek schedule on their own and the fans wouldn't blink an eye.

Feast on that little taste of reality for awhile and return with a better response than your usual "I'm not posting here anymore" garbage. I keep waiting for you to keep that promise.


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PowerSlave
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June 28, 2009 at 08:14:57 PM
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Posted By: singlefile on June 28 2009 at 07:56:21 PM

Holy spin control. This post should be well received. LOL A complete shill for Guy Webb and the All Stars coming on here and saying that paying customers should not have an opinion. The fans did get out their wallet and "take care of business". Was the front gate admission free every night? People actually paying the freight at races throughout the year have a lot more reason to have an opinion than a Guy Webb Internet policeman.

I am not a WoO fan at all, but what does the car count at an ASCoC race in Ohio have to do with the car count at a WoO race in Knoxville? There are a hell of a lot more 410 Sprints in Ohio than there are in Iowa.

The line about point funds don't matter is complete BS. Ask some of the teams in PA why they don't skip races in the middle of the year to travel elsewhere. It's because they are running for the point fund. The same is true for the point fund at Knoxville.



Once again, I must say that I couldn't have made that point better myself. You're one of the true voices of reason in this forum.


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dsc1600
June 28, 2009 at 08:44:44 PM
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Not to pile on, but I don't see how you can call it a "non-issue" when the Ohio Speedweek champion complains in an interview after the race about the lack of a point fund. The problem with this lack of a point fund is it feeds into the perception of the All Stars as an ameteurish C league that can't even provide their racers with a Speedweek point fund when the non-sanctioned PA speedweek does. I don't necessarily agree with that perception, but it's something that needs to be addressed in 2010.




sprinty11
June 28, 2009 at 08:51:15 PM
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Stevie did get "show up" or appearance money for every race though (in top 10 in season points)...plus a couple of free passes to the races (driver and owner). He must've thought it worth his while or he would of headed to PA a day sooner. Let's not forget that another prominant series didn't even have a season points fund...just trophies.



singlefile
June 28, 2009 at 08:59:47 PM
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Posted By: PowerSlave on June 28 2009 at 08:14:57 PM

Once again, I must say that I couldn't have made that point better myself. You're one of the true voices of reason in this forum.



Thanks for the kind words. I also think you are one of the more rational and enjoyable posters to read as well.





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