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Topic: 2010 plans for Clinton Speedway
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funnn
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November 04, 2009 at 10:32:54 PM
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Saturday night races beginning in April, last points race labor day weekend. Run some specials Sep-Nov.

Classes:
Modified - IMCA rules no claim for 2010
Southern SportMod - IMCA sanctioned
Factory Stock - Use current ECMS rules @3200 lbs.
Hobby Stock - IMCA sanctioned
Sport Compact - IMCA sanctioned

We would eventually want all classes sanctioned but realize it could take a few years. In my opinion the Sport mod class in oklahoma is fixin to ruin itself, engine costs are getting out of control. A true IMCA sanctioned class would help get these costs back in line and give you racers a chance to run for national points. Hobby stock would be a good, affordable entry level class for western oklahoma, it's not that far off ECMS Bomber rules. Best of all with IMCA you racers would not have to worry about some a$$hole promoter (that would b me) changing the rules at a moments notice and you can race for national points in a car that could be raced at any IMCA track in the country.

And just a side note, if both tracks ran by the same rules we could statistically produce a IMCA National Champion right here in western Oklahoma, that would be very cool.

joe.m


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C.A.NIX21N
November 05, 2009 at 08:50:26 PM
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I won't be able run with IMCA rule mods, so good luck next year Joe!


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DustinAllenRacing
November 05, 2009 at 09:14:04 PM
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Was wanting to run there some but cant with IMCA rules.



OKCFan12
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November 06, 2009 at 12:14:40 AM
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I have a question as a curious fan...

Whats the major differences between the cars you guys (Dustin Allen, C.A. Nix) run now - and IMCA?

Also - to anyone - is the Winter Nationals race at Clinton next weekend IMCA rules for all classes? and further - are the champ sprints running SFS rules or like OCRS rules?


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gitrdone
November 06, 2009 at 12:52:55 AM
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I thank your going to get alot of Enid cars. Especially the sport mods from around here. Love that track up there. The most fun getting drunk at the motel after the Winter Nationals I have ever had. As long as Dusty don't get tossed in the slammer again. lol


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C.A.NIX21N
November 06, 2009 at 07:50:20 AM
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No quick change, no roller cam, or shaft mount rocker arms. Those are the ones that keep me from doin IMCA.


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jaydad37
November 06, 2009 at 01:37:45 PM
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how will you statisically produce a national points champion? There are guys that race, for IMCA points, at 3 times a week and sometimes 4. They recieve points for all of them shows. i do believe its an awesome idea and I believe the IMCA sanction is the way to go but to talk national champion you have to have more tracks in oklahoma go to that sanction.

 


Jayson Ellis

jaydad37
November 06, 2009 at 01:38:43 PM
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Posted By: C.A.NIX21N on November 06 2009 at 07:50:20 AM

No quick change, no roller cam, or shaft mount rocker arms. Those are the ones that keep me from doin IMCA.



also no outlaw spoilers allowed in IMCA


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rhilbers
November 06, 2009 at 03:10:29 PM
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This message was edited on November 06, 2009 at 03:14:13 PM by rhilbers

I really think some of you that are interested what I.M.C.A. is all about you should go to this web site, It might clear it up for those involved.

http://imca.com/rules.php?divisionid=1

http://imca.com/rules.php

 


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"When it's wet slide it in"

rhilbers
November 06, 2009 at 03:20:41 PM
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This message was edited on November 06, 2009 at 03:23:50 PM by rhilbers
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Posted By: C.A.NIX21N on November 06 2009 at 07:50:20 AM

No quick change, no roller cam, or shaft mount rocker arms. Those are the ones that keep me from doin IMCA.



http://imca.com/rules.php?divisionid=1

10. SPRINGS: One steel, non-progressive coil spring per wheel only. Steel or composite leaf spring allowed. One additional spring allowed on pull bar or lift bar, may be progressive. Any coil spring must be at least 4.5 inches O.D. No torsion bars, air bags or inner liners.
11. REAR SUSPENSION: No independent rear suspension. All components must be steel. No covers allowed. All trailing arms/link bars must be solid tubing. Rear of frame may be altered to accept leaf or coil springs. Steel coil-over eliminators, or steel or aluminum coil-over kits allowed - must conform to shock and spring rules. One mechanical traction bar (pull or lift, not both). No brake bars. Rubber bumpers allowed only on panhard bar and mechanical traction bar. No sway bar. Solid safety chains, cables or tethers permitted frame to axle housing only (cannot be mounted to bird cage), no springs, rubbers or adjusting devices on/or attached to system. Minimum 19 inch long panhard bar, measured straight line, center to center.
12. REAR END: Any steel approved OEM passenger car or truck rear end (housing and carrier) allowed. Safety hubs (floater) allowed. All components must be steel, except lowering blocks, axle cap, drive flange. Inspection hole required in housing. Full steel spool, steel mini spool or welded rear ends only. Steel axles only. No quick change devices, or cambered rear ends. One piece drive flange only. No torque dividing differentials. No scalloped ring gears

23. ENGINE COMPARTMENT: Rear of engine (bellhousing flange) must be mounted at least 72 inches forward from centerline of rear axle. Engine offset must be kept within two inches of centerline of front crossmember with engine level. Minimum 11 inch engine height from ground to center of crankshaft. Radiator must be mounted in front of engine. Cooling system may be modified. Overflow tubes must be directed to ground between frame rails.
24. ENGINE SPECIFICATIONS: Any American make steel engine block allowed. Aftermarket and OEM performance blocks allowed. Steel heads and oil pan only. Flat tappet cam/lifters and stud-mounted rocker arms only. No stud girdles. No mushroom lifters, lifter diameter and configuration must match OEM passenger block. OEM firing order cannot be changed. No crank triggers. All engines must be able to be used in conventional passenger car without alterations. Engine mounts cannot be removed or altered. Castings and fittings must not be changed. No machine work on outside of engine. All belt driven accessories must be on front of engine. ‘Wet’ sump oiling system only. External oil pumps go with engine if claimed.
25. ENGINE CLAIMING RULES: Refer to IMCA Operations and Inspection Manual or General Rules for claim eligibility requirements.
(A) $550 cash, or $100 and exchange, claim on engine, flywheel and balancing plates ($25 goes to wrecker and $25 to official for each engine). Claimed driver has option of accepting cash, or exchanging engines with claiming driver.
(B) Claim does not include - 1. clutch, 2. pressure plate, 3. bellhousing, 4. headers, 5. carburetor, 6. starter, 7. motor mounts, 8. oil/temp. sending units, 9. carburetor spacer, 10. fan and pulleys, 11. clutch ball, 12. clutch arm, 13. throw out bearing, 14. dip stick, 15. water pump, 16. fuel pump, rod and plate, 17. distributor, 18. plug wires, 19. water outlet and restrictor, 20. breathers


 Randy       

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"When it's wet slide it in"

rhilbers
November 06, 2009 at 03:31:21 PM
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This message was edited on November 06, 2009 at 03:33:18 PM by rhilbers
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Posted By: jaydad37 on November 06 2009 at 01:37:45 PM

how will you statisically produce a national points champion? There are guys that race, for IMCA points, at 3 times a week and sometimes 4. They recieve points for all of them shows. i do believe its an awesome idea and I believe the IMCA sanction is the way to go but to talk national champion you have to have more tracks in oklahoma go to that sanction.

 



http://imca.com/rules.php

POINT STRUCTURE (Unless otherwise noted, this point structure applies to all IMCA divisions.)
1. Weekly ‘A’ Feature win is 40 points, with each subsequent position worth one point less, with 24th position in feature worth 17 points. If more than 24 cars start feature, all positions from 24th back receive 17 points. If track runs a ‘B’ feature(s), first non-transferring driver receives 16 points and each subsequent position, back to sixth position, receives one less point per position. Sixth position and back in ‘B’ feature(s) receive 11 points. This applies to all ‘B’s, even if more than one is run. Drivers that don’t qualify for ‘A’ or ‘B’ feature will receive no points, but that event will not be figured into driver’s point average. (IMCA Late Models — heat points are awarded as follows: 1st - 3 points; 2nd - 2 points; 3rd - 1 point.)
2. Should a driver qualify for ‘B’ feature or ‘A’ feature, and not be able to compete, they will be scored in last position and receive points accordingly. (Promoter’s discretion whether vacated position is filled in feature by next qualified driver.)
3. If less than ten entries for any given night, for each car less than ten, one point fewer than normal is awarded for feature finish. For example, if nine cars entered, feature win would then be worth 39 points; for eight entries, win would be worth 38 points, etc.
4. Driver must participate at minimum 50% of weekly sanctioned point events at a track to be eligible for IMCA track point fund. Track must complete at least four race programs to crown a champion.
5. TRACK standings are based on driver’s total cumulative points at that track.
6. STATE standings are based on driver’s total cumulative points for first 55 sanctioned events at tracks located in that state.
7. REGIONAL and NATIONAL standings for 2009: Modified, Stock Car, Hobby Stock and SportMod™ drivers will use their BEST 30 finishes at their FIRST 55 starts at sanctioned events in their region to determine their regional and national standings. Crate Models, Late Models and Sprint Cars will use their BEST 20 finishes at their FIRST 55 starts. (Non-point disqualifications will not be included in 55 starts).
8. SERIES standings for 2009: Must be a minimum of eight races in the series to award bonus points – maximum of 20.
9. NATIONAL standings are based on driver’s regional standings (if division has regions). Driver may cross regional boundaries and receive ‘home’ region points at specified IMCA special events.
10.BONUS POINTS: A bonus will be awarded for winning a track championship, one per division per track. One bonus point will be awarded per each track’s average car count in that division. For example, if a track averages 15 cars, the track champion will be awarded 15 bonus points; if a track averages 25 cars, the bonus is 25 points; if a track averages 38 cars, the bonus is 38 points, etc. Bonus points will be ADDED to the driver’s year end point total (they will not replace finishes). Driver is awarded one track championship for bonus points in the Late Model, Sprint Car, Crate Model and Sport Compact divisions (if a driver gets more than one track championship, the highest number is used). All track championship bonuses will be awarded in Modifieds, Stock Cars, SportMod™, and Hobby Stocks, with a maximum of 60 cumulative bonus points. Should a track run more than one feature per division, the average number of cars per feature event will be used to figure bonus. A track must complete at least eight race programs for full bonus point structure to apply; bonus will be pro-rated for track with between four and seven events.
11.TIE-BREAKER: Should two or more drivers have the same point totals at season end in track, series, state, regional or national standings, number of sanctioned 40-point feature wins will decide tie-breaker, then second-place finishes, etc.
12.The 2009 point season for Late Models is April 24 through August 30; for all other divisions the point season is from January 2 through September 27. There are no IMCA points awarded Super Nationals week - September 7-13.


 Randy       

       DIRT TRACKIN
"When it's wet slide it in"

DustinAllenRacing
November 06, 2009 at 10:11:40 PM
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Hoosier tires for one and body rule ect. Id like to run but another set of tires is added expense. See what happens though. Plan on winternationals there though



DustinAllenRacing
November 06, 2009 at 10:13:00 PM
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I do thinks its a good idea though for those rules to keep the USMTS guys away. They out dollar everyone so its really never a race when they show up



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November 08, 2009 at 03:17:41 PM
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I really hope Joe goes through with this plan. I know it works in Kansas. The same rules at different tracks can only be good for everyone involved.



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