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The Iowa driver Ralph Blackett was the driver the #49 I was thinking.
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Posted By: Racing From The Past on September 16 2011 at 09:37:51 AM
The Iowa driver Ralph Blackett was the driver the #49 I was thinking.
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Charlie Schwartz drove the Nance house car that weekend. There was an article about it in the paper about them being the first to stagger the side plates on the wing to increase the corning
Sammy Swindell drove the Davis Electric Special, what number was it and was the owner Bobby Davis JR's father?
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Bobby Davis Electric was 71 that I remember. Yes I think Bobby Davis was the owner. Jr. would driver later.
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Dick Morris did own and race the #49 in 1976, and possibly for awhile in 1977. I know he won at Belleville in 1976 when the car was maroon. It was a Maxwell chassis, and Larry Swanson who owned the #14 cars that Lonnie Jensen, and Lloyd Beckman won so many races in, was a co-owner. Dick was hurt later that year, and tried to come back but was unsuccessfull. In 1977 at some point, Max Rogers bought that car and everything that went with it. He installed Lloyd Beckman as the driver, and they finished 2nd in points behind Doug Wolfgang in the Trostle #20 at Knoxville for the season championship. In fact that was the season Wolfgang dominated sprint car racing, winning I believe 48 features. It was Beckman that ended one of his long win streaks, at Knoxville that year.
Side note, Doug Wolfgang was driving for Max Rogers at Lakeside (the new paved one) when he was burned so bad in the early 1990's.
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Posted By: Bkcr on September 15 2011 at 06:14:54 PM
I don' think the race was at Lakeside it was in MO. Steve drove the Stanton car that Al Unser JR drove at Tulsa the night before. Steve did not make the feature that night in the Stanton car. I think that was the first time he did not make the feature. The Sunday night race at Tulsa was the last time that Little Al drove a sprint car. The Stanton car had a big block in and was not handling very well we were watching Little Al and man he put a show on but did not do very well
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BKCR,
First off, I was wrong on the photo finish at Lakeside, that took place the next year in
1982, and Steve was driving for Karl. I think the race you are talking about happended at
I-70 in Odessa, when they put dirt over the pavement possibly. Little "Al" became a pretty
good driver before he moved on to the sports cars, and later the Indy Cars. At one point he
was 88 pounds driving a sprinter, and they called him the Flying Flea.
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Posted By: Bkcr on September 16 2011 at 10:19:16 AM
Charlie Schwartz drove the Nance house car that weekend. There was an article about it in the paper about them being the first to stagger the side plates on the wing to increase the corning
Sammy Swindell drove the Davis Electric Special, what number was it and was the owner Bobby Davis JR's father?
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Bobby Davis Senior definetly owned the #71 car.
Later when Junior drove for him they won the WOO title the year there was a split among
WOO drivers, with some going to a rival club, including Steve Kinser.
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September 16, 2011 at
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Bobby Davis Jr. won the 89 WoO championship in the Casey Luna Ford #10 Sprinter, was the year the split up between the WoO and now defunct USA Sprint Org.
Sammy , Steve went with USA deal but came back to Ted Johnson's WoO deal in 90,was suppose to have been the downfall of the WoO and we know that was not the case.
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When you spend years & thousands of hours and put http://kansasracinghistory.com and all the associated sites together, then you can call yourself a dedicated historian. Bob Lawrence's is a true historian and we thank you very much for all the hard work you have done over the years.
http://kansasracinghistory.com/Hutch_Nationals/webpages/Hutchinson_Winners_List.htm
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Warren,
Your comments suggest you were offended by someones comments. Hopefully I didn't do
that, or anyone else. This is a chat board, and people say at the time what they think is right,
sometimes it is, sometimes its not. I know after I read others comments, I sometimes reflect
differently on things. For the las five years I have written over 50 drivers, owners, and mechanics,
bios for the BCRA Hall Of Fame, the Belleville Highbanks Hall of Fame, and Vintage Oval
Racing Magazine. This is hard and sometimes very tedious work. But this our sport,
and if we don't care about it who will. As to who is a Historian, I will leave that for you to
decide for yourself. Bob Lawrence's work is awesome, and so is yours, you have created
a website, where sprint car, modified, and super modified racing is being remembered. I know
like with my work, you are not making any money from this.
I think it is also great what you are doing for vets. I have a Korean vet that lives next to
me, and he has written several articles, and books about war related topics. We can never
forget what veterans have done for us. Its the reason we can get on this forum and talk freely.
Thanks Warren for everything you do.
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Posted By: racee14 on September 16 2011 at 02:52:31 PM
Warren,
Your comments suggest you were offended by someones comments. Hopefully I didn't do
that, or anyone else. This is a chat board, and people say at the time what they think is right,
sometimes it is, sometimes its not. I know after I read others comments, I sometimes reflect
differently on things. For the las five years I have written over 50 drivers, owners, and mechanics,
bios for the BCRA Hall Of Fame, the Belleville Highbanks Hall of Fame, and Vintage Oval
Racing Magazine. This is hard and sometimes very tedious work. But this our sport,
and if we don't care about it who will. As to who is a Historian, I will leave that for you to
decide for yourself. Bob Lawrence's work is awesome, and so is yours, you have created
a website, where sprint car, modified, and super modified racing is being remembered. I know
like with my work, you are not making any money from this.
I think it is also great what you are doing for vets. I have a Korean vet that lives next to
me, and he has written several articles, and books about war related topics. We can never
forget what veterans have done for us. Its the reason we can get on this forum and talk freely.
Thanks Warren for everything you do.
Ray C
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I'm not sure what you mean? Maybe I offended you cause your an historian also. I'm not very good with words sometimes. I just see the work Bob puts together for our area and I know from my little place on the web he contiues to spend hundreds of hours a week on the computer. I know Bob does what I don't do and that is research and spend hundreds of hours on the phone and travel to get all his info. I wasn't putting myself down or anyone else. My site was just a place for my own photos to start out with. I know I'm not an historian just a racefan who tried to become a photographer and sucked at it. Then he took the wrong fork in a road one day and has only been to a couple dozens races in the last 31 years. Before the fork in the road in 1980 this guy lived racing Friday, Saturday and Sunday and then some. I traveled on my Gold Wing all over the place. Camped out in the back of 67 B/W Chevy pick-up with just a topper. Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri and several other states. WOW to be young again.
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Posted By: Racing From The Past on September 16 2011 at 03:13:34 PM
I'm not sure what you mean? Maybe I offended you cause your an historian also. I'm not very good with words sometimes. I just see the work Bob puts together for our area and I know from my little place on the web he contiues to spend hundreds of hours a week on the computer. I know Bob does what I don't do and that is research and spend hundreds of hours on the phone and travel to get all his info. I wasn't putting myself down or anyone else. My site was just a place for my own photos to start out with. I know I'm not an historian just a racefan who tried to become a photographer and sucked at it. Then he took the wrong fork in a road one day and has only been to a couple dozens races in the last 31 years. Before the fork in the road in 1980 this guy lived racing Friday, Saturday and Sunday and then some. I traveled on my Gold Wing all over the place. Camped out in the back of 67 B/W Chevy pick-up with just a topper. Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri and several other states. WOW to be young again.
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Warren,
Don't sell yourself or this site short. It has been the best avenue to view and read about
modified racing in our region. And just for that reason alone its a great racing site. I
also learned some great things about Luther Brewer that I have passed on to people that
were interested in his race cars.
Keep up the great work.
Ray C
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Posted By: racee14 on September 16 2011 at 04:05:36 PM
Warren,
Don't sell yourself or this site short. It has been the best avenue to view and read about
modified racing in our region. And just for that reason alone its a great racing site. I
also learned some great things about Luther Brewer that I have passed on to people that
were interested in his race cars.
Keep up the great work.
Ray C
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Warren I think that I have told you before but I will say it again. Because of this site i went out and bought a new computer in 2006 and very slowly started putting my comments on it. I had not used a key board since 1968 when I was in the 10th grade and now I can almost do a segment with out a mistake. I have some severe medical problems and when I can't sleep I will look at all the old comments and pictures and forget my troubles. So Warren I owe you a lot more than a big thank you.
I try to make sure on my comments that they are accurate but I know I make a lot of mistakes so anybody there please correct me. I don not intend to be a know all.
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Posted By: Racing From The Past on September 16 2011 at 09:37:51 AM
The Iowa driver Ralph Blackett was the driver the #49 I was thinking.
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I know Jack Hewit drove our car at the Tulsa WoO race. I believe it was 78 but it might have been 79. He was I believe 17 or 18 at the time. He dumped it hard in turn 3-4 and landed it up on the concrete. The car was pretty much destroyed. I have quite a few pictures from that race. I need to dig them up and get them posted.
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Posted By: Racer1n on September 18 2011 at 11:26:18 AM
I know Jack Hewit drove our car at the Tulsa WoO race. I believe it was 78 but it might have been 79. He was I believe 17 or 18 at the time. He dumped it hard in turn 3-4 and landed it up on the concrete. The car was pretty much destroyed. I have quite a few pictures from that race. I need to dig them up and get them posted.
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You mean like this?
This was March '79. Is this your car? I don'y have any info on the driver that day, but I have a 2-3 shot sequence of this crash.
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I think some of us thought it was Jim or Fred Linder from Ohio in the 1n???? I thought it was Jim.
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Posted By: Racing From The Past on September 18 2011 at 07:20:39 PM
I think some of us thought it was Jim or Fred Linder from Ohio in the 1n???? I thought it was Jim.
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Wholy Smoke! That's it! I recognize it from the Large Nance on the wing. I drew that in with a magic marker in the hotel parking lot. It took me an hour to color the thing in and several markers. haha
That is Jack Hewitt going over in the picture. He landed right in front of our trailer.
I don't believe Fred Linder was there that day, but I know Jim Linder was driving the Red 6X.
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Emmett Hahn"s first major ride was the Joe Cox 33. Who drove the car before Emmett and after Emmett?
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Posted By: Bkcr on September 21 2011 at 10:32:50 AM
Emmett Hahn"s first major ride was the Joe Cox 33. Who drove the car before Emmett and after Emmett?
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Not sure about before, but James Eubanks was after, wasn't he? Or was someone in that seat before James?
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Posted By: sid1956 on September 21 2011 at 12:43:23 PM
Not sure about before, but James Eubanks was after, wasn't he? Or was someone in that seat before James?
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In 1970 Joe Cox had a driver drive for him just one year, James drove from 1971/1973
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Posted By: Racer1n on September 19 2011 at 07:51:25 PM
Wholy Smoke! That's it! I recognize it from the Large Nance on the wing. I drew that in with a magic marker in the hotel parking lot. It took me an hour to color the thing in and several markers. haha
That is Jack Hewitt going over in the picture. He landed right in front of our trailer.
I don't believe Fred Linder was there that day, but I know Jim Linder was driving the Red 6X.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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