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Topic: Kansas Antique Racers at 81 Speedway
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brian26
July 07, 2011 at 01:51:33 PM
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This is a 1987




brian26
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This is a 1985 or 1986

 




brian26
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This message was edited on July 07, 2011 at 02:08:13 PM by brian26

This the design previous to these cars. The roll cages were alike from 1980-1984. I have found the toprails to be either straight(possible reclip), or bent down over the front axle(the way I remember them).




brian26
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Posted By: bushwacker on July 07 2011 at 10:36:57 AM

hey,i'll take your 5$$. that is not a nance frame.. the guy has a nance hood on a brand x frame ect.... i can guaeentee that ...............



Did you check for the numbers on the top bar behind the engine?




brian26
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This message was edited on July 07, 2011 at 02:11:30 PM by brian26
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hey,i'll take your 5$$. that is not a nance frame.. the guy has a nance hood on a brand x frame ect.... i can guaeentee that ...............



And then it gets even more radical after 1989/1990 for what we saw from Nance.

How can you sit there and tell people there was 'no design change'(on a previous thread) in the 1980's when we know better?




welder
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Posted By: sid1956 on July 07 2011 at 12:04:10 PM

Does anyone know the history behind this beauty?



It is a Trossel short wheelbase frame it came out of New Mexico. Its owed by Bob McCall and driven by Roger Thompson



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Posted By: welder on July 07 2011 at 04:14:50 PM

It is a Trossel short wheelbase frame it came out of New Mexico. Its owed by Bob McCall and driven by Roger Thompson



Got that #501 Mario Fuentes look to me from El Paso. New Mexico that would be close. Probably a Phoenix/Stanton connection.


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brian26
July 07, 2011 at 09:14:43 PM
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I've only seen one Fuentes chassis up close, and yes they did look like the cage on the square black super.

Didn't Trostle have a serial number marking on his cars?




welder
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Posted By: sid1956 on July 07 2011 at 12:04:10 PM

Does anyone know the history behind this beauty?



Talked to Bob last night he said the car was built in 1974 for a guy named Don Gay. He was in the service in El Paso and ran the car down there.One of the last cars build with a bolt-on cage, its a 90 inch wheel base car.



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Posted By: sid1956 on July 07 2011 at 12:04:10 PM

Does anyone know the history behind this beauty?



A 1974 Bob Trostle Chassis #160 built Feb. 20, 1974. A 4 bar car, 90" wheel base, super modified bolt on roll cage. This car was built for Don Gray of El Paso, Texas. I brought the car on E- Bay Feb. 2005 in Cheyenne, Wy. Restored by Bob McCall, Owner; Complete with some of the original dirt and a thanks to Lynn Anderson of Concordia, Kansas for his help.



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Posted By: welder on July 05 2011 at 03:36:59 PM

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Yellow and black my favorite colors. If I ever had of got a race car to the track (now that I think back what a scary thought that would have been) it would have been yellow and black in some form. #99 or 55 would have been my numbers. Todd has created a beauty hasn't he! I think he got it in a basket sort of.


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sid1956
July 15, 2011 at 09:07:43 AM
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Here is another car (the yellow 44) that looks familier. It looks like the old number 5 that Herb Lobdell ran in '69 and '70 in OKC. If my memory serves me, Herb sold that car to Mike Bassett in '73 or '74. Didn't Richard Powell from Enid run a car that looked similar to this one?

Thanks to all that replied to my earlier question about the 90" Trostle car from El Paso. I didn't realize there were any 90" supers around.

Sid



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This message was edited on July 15, 2011 at 11:28:22 PM by Racing From The Past

I believe the Arizona crowd may have run 90"ers to. Albuquerque ran them too but they may have ran the 100" like Herrera ran with the NCRA. Some of these were also fuel injected if I remember right. I'm sure that is the Richard Powell car he drove.


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welder
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Posted By: sid1956 on July 15 2011 at 09:07:43 AM

Here is another car (the yellow 44) that looks familier. It looks like the old number 5 that Herb Lobdell ran in '69 and '70 in OKC. If my memory serves me, Herb sold that car to Mike Bassett in '73 or '74. Didn't Richard Powell from Enid run a car that looked similar to this one?

Thanks to all that replied to my earlier question about the 90" Trostle car from El Paso. I didn't realize there were any 90" supers around.

Sid



The yellow #44 is the Ex-Richard Powell car from Enid, OK owned by Clark Racer



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Posted By: welder on July 15 2011 at 01:39:00 PM

The yellow #44 is the Ex-Richard Powell car from Enid, OK owned by Clark Racer



Arizona had some supers that had a 100 inch wheelbase and some that did not. I never did know their rules but I think it was at the NCRA race at Tulsa in October of 76 or 77, George Armstrong's owners Noel Crain and Danny Thurman bought a used super from Stanton that had been run in Phoenix. We all went down to look it over and they said thy spent the week getting their engine in it and did not have time to paint or change the sponsors logos. I teased Noel about one of logo, it was Mable's Massage Parlour and he laughed and said he wished that he had put duct tape over it

Ray



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This was the car I was trying to compare it to. This team put the miles on there hauler to race with the NCRA in the day, let me tell you. Mario Fuentes from El Paso, TX area and I think actually they were from the Mexico side?


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oldracr10
August 02, 2011 at 10:08:30 PM
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Posted By: sid1956 on July 15 2011 at 09:07:43 AM

Here is another car (the yellow 44) that looks familier. It looks like the old number 5 that Herb Lobdell ran in '69 and '70 in OKC. If my memory serves me, Herb sold that car to Mike Bassett in '73 or '74. Didn't Richard Powell from Enid run a car that looked similar to this one?

Thanks to all that replied to my earlier question about the 90" Trostle car from El Paso. I didn't realize there were any 90" supers around.

Sid



I qwn the 44 car now. I was informed shortlyafter I got it by HISTORIAN Mike Pogue that thecar was actually built in 1966 for Herb to Drive. I have had seveal emails from Herb with pictures. He said he finished 5th in points in OKC in 1967. It was a super then, When Richard Powell drove it it was a 6 cylinder. Clark Racer



sid1956
August 03, 2011 at 08:21:42 AM
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Posted By: oldracr10 on August 02 2011 at 10:08:30 PM

I qwn the 44 car now. I was informed shortlyafter I got it by HISTORIAN Mike Pogue that thecar was actually built in 1966 for Herb to Drive. I have had seveal emails from Herb with pictures. He said he finished 5th in points in OKC in 1967. It was a super then, When Richard Powell drove it it was a 6 cylinder. Clark Racer



Wow, thanks for the info! I guess my eyes aren't so bad after all. Would enjoy seeing those pictures that Herb sent you! The one Herb drove in 1970 looked very similar...was it a 'twin' of your car?

Sid



sid1956
August 03, 2011 at 11:01:05 AM
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http://users.icnet.net/~robertb/okcrace.htm

Found this picture of Herb's 1967 car on the site above that Mark Brotherton hosts. The site is a tribute to SFS 50th Anniversary...nice pics on the site too.



welder
August 05, 2011 at 07:05:25 PM
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Posted By: welder on July 05 2011 at 03:29:15 PM

Kansas Antique Racers had 22 cars at 81 Speedway Monday night



The 99 is the Ex Dale Luper Nance Super from Texas, won the Devils Bowl Crown in 1968.



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