This message was edited on
August 03, 2009 at
07:06:03 PM by OKCFan12
Well look at that kitty cat - guess I wasn't that far off on those numbers was I?
but that isn't what this is about anymore is it? - you used this as a stage to go into a bullshit rant on your general perception of me. Don't bother saying you did not - the proof is in the pudding. I posted results on here from what I saw - you made a statement that those were false. I provided further numbers that were - AS YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE - pretty damn accurate.
You stepped up with a puny little stick to challenge my #'s - and when you were proved to be the ass - switched your argument to what exactly? all that shit you are rambling has nothing to do with the matter at hand. But since you brought it up - let me give yout he same bitch slap I'll give ANYONE who brings that shit up.
Racers. Crew. Fans. None have any purpose at all without the other in the total picture. take one of those 3 things out - there is not much of a show. I don't know where that stacks up in equality - I've never been the kind of egomaniacal dickhead to think about it. Seriously - it's you and a couple other assholes that thinks FANS should know their place. So don't come with a meaningless apology that you just have issue with one fan. Your statement is no different than On the Sauce when he made his - and in fact is offensive to all FANS. Because it is an attack against the basic principle of what that means - don't be such a retard as to think that just because it was directed at me - it doesn't have implications for everyone. That folks in the stands are somehow lesser than those workin on cars or racing them. Now it certainly does have its place in certain arguments - when certain boudaries get crossed. You and several others have used that argument on here - and 90% it's been completely out of place.
But let me spell it out for the upteenth time kitty cat. Both thos ein the pits and those in the stands have their place in the total picture. There are dozens of things that a crew person workin on a car would know that a fan in the stands would not. And that's where you are a pitiful idiot - because this ain't one of them. This in fact one of the things that a fan woulk know more - because while the help is changing tires - a fan is in the stands seeing every race and how many cars are in it. AND THAT HAS THE MOST DIRECT IMPACT - AND FINAL SAY - TO WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE. It was actually out of place on your part BIG TIME to ever say anything. Your boy changing tires in the pits - is no lesser or more than myself. But I would have more direct knowledge on car counts and results - just as he would have more direct knowledge on set up's, air pressure, and all the things that goes in to a set up. IF I was on here rambling about that - than a proper point would have ensued on your and "heard"'s end. But I wasn't was I? I was talking about results and car counts - something I would have a little bit more knowledge of throughout the night. So even by on your own account - you're even more the idiot. I'll spell it out for the final time. In the issue at hand, car counts and results - a fan has just as much (and sometimes more) hands on info than someone changing tires in the pits. The only way that argument could apply is if you were implying that it makes fans lesser because they aren't workin on cars in the pits - which you can try to sway everyone all you want - but any intelligent fan knows exactly wtf that is.
btw kitty cat - I have done the whole workin on cars thing - with Jerry Morrison when they were runnin pro stocks. I enjoyed it to an extent - kickin it with the fellas - and they are cool fellas. But it did suck to change tires and scrape mud while the sprints were pushing off. I had fun with those guys - but after a couple months - it was clear my place was in the grandstand with my family and friends. That point you were trying to make about you'd respect me if I was among those down there gettin' sweaty - don't act like that is not a dig towards all fans. No doubt you meant it directed at just me - but it is a dig at all fans. If we quit puttin our asses in those seats - you guys wouldn't have much use down there doing what you do. I don't view those anyone in the pits as any lesser or more than myself - with the exception of the drivers - because they have an exceptional talent to do what they do.....but it was you who tried to make a point that my numbers were somehow false because I wasn't down there chaging tires - and yes it makes you look stupid. because when it comes to what this was started over - you are FAN's turf bitch ;)
Lastly, I think fans know their place much more than is assumed. I think this situation exemplies the egomaniacal and arrogant entitlement that some in the pits feel they should automatically have over fans in the stands.....there are more displays of that on this forum than there are fans not knowing their place.
opposite kitty cats fake ass apology pertaining to his insulting the basic idea of what it means to be a fan........there is one apology that is in some ways deserved. And that is to whoever "heard" is - my insults are not to him - granted it seems this mythical figure disputed my numbers that in the end were proved accurate - but I understand that, he was busy throughout the night. And I am glad he assisted in getting a car on the track for what turned out to be a fantastic show. What is pathetic is that this anonymous person was used in such a negative way as a prop to deliver personal insults - and even worse - was clearly used as a tool to save his side of an argument that was already brutally lost - by then attacking what turned out to be accurate numbers - because they came from the stands and not the pits.
spin it how you like dude - thats what you did. You can try to cover it because you directed it just at me - but the very hateful structure of your attempted point speaks for itself - just as On the Sauce's did. For anyone with common sense - it's obvious. But at least Larry had a good reason for his - I offended him when I made a comment on the National forum that was at least debatable. Now where it went from there - who knows. probably much like yours - just a matter of dislike. which is fine by me. I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. But don't come and bring your bullshit into threads where I am trying to provide people with results and happenings at places they could not be. I understand I don't offer many opportunities (controversial posts) as I used to --- but don't go creating them. Actually go ahead and do it lol - you've embarrased yourself every time - which is poetic justice in its own right ;)
By all rights - this is done - the numbers (and everything else) have said it all.
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