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SprintsRock
October 24, 2008 at 03:07:02 PM
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Posted By: Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U on October 23 2008 at 07:37:58 PM

Cody

They said your computer was down.....????????? But your back on Mad Mike Patrol on other threads I see!!!!

Oh well here is a post you ignored........!!!!

How about you and I work out what ever bug it was that bounced up into your under-carriage on this, a thread about you and I.....?

To start with you over looked this post and had your little friend ( Call in sick for you) post under it that you were broke down, well you do appear to be up and going now!!

SO:

Posted By: OKCFan12 on October 16 2008 at 11:12:48 PM

i sure do mad mike.........

as has become the norm - you have completely ignored the important and meaningful portions of the post. the point of it. instead opting to address the more insignificant parts of it.

besides i think only 1 is an actual name calling - that being wanker. foolish, hypocritE, ignorant, hateful, closeminded - these are attributes that i felt you had exhibited in that post.....and many others as well.

social anthropology experts? - did you stay at a holiday inn last night? lol. no i probably should not have put the word wanker in there. either way - no suprise you focus on that part of my post. no suprise at all. i just find it amusing that you invoke social anthropology. if you are actually following that logic - 90% of your posts would be subject to analytical ridicule. you speak of degradation - thats your MO. that was exactly what you were doing with your last post. degrading the video, as well as the sport that was in it, as well as kids associated with it. ans then tying it over to me. YOU WERE DEGRADING NOT JUST WHAT THEY DO - BUT THEM FOR DOING IT. and it explains so much about me right? i bet it made perfect sense to you didnt it? thats stupid. they are stupid. and i'm stupid. was your last post not meant to be degrading? lets put on the social anthropological expert pants and walk down that path........lol. you'll invoke dozens of things - hell even science now lol - against anyone who disagrees with you, or to belittle things you are not in to. but the last person in the world you apply all of it to is the first person in the world you should ---- Y O U.


Cody

You admit you have a problem !!! wow A problem with folks who may challenge you????

Its not normal for me to ignore meaningful things, rather It takes too....too....long to get to the darn points you make. If not reading all the "WORD FILL" you shamelessly include means to you that I "IGNORE" the point.....well then !!!! Guilty!!!

Oh you think your word "WANKER" was the only real Name Calling you did? .ahhh.....Right!!!!!

I do believe David posted his rather direct opinion on the name calling, or did you choose to ignore his very well written opinion as you would any other authoritarian figure.

Only 90 % of my post come into question for you. Only 90% ?? Well most if not all of your post get the mental health review every morning, and often more than not, are "RIDICULED", by the public & students reviewing them! The following words are most often heard to describe your post: Insecure, Angry, Frustrated, Introverted,Wall Flower, Want-a-be, Nerd Word Smith, Game Player, Anal Retentive, Bush Blossom, Political Hack, Fire Starter, Self Promoter, Paranoid, and so on. It would be unfair to post a list of the terms used to describe you without an extensive MMPI or CPI exam from you.

In the past few weeks you see every challenge of mine or opposite point of view as a DEGRADING response.

The more I defend my views, the more you reach for Plutonian answers to over explain your objection to them.

I will post my opinion on this threads topic one last time and ask you again to respond to the direct questions with direct answers without all the personal attacks.

#A. My view of your post is. FALSE ADVERTISING, MISLEADING STATEMENT, and POOR CHOICE OF SUBJECT MATTER IN LIGHT OF THE TITLE.

#B. I ask you again to answer my questions please sir, if you can. ( As they were posted )


MM



His "little friend"? We are adults now - not 4 year olds. I didn't call in sick for him - I simply stated that his computer was down. I have no beef with you so why even bring me in to it?

I'm on this site because I love racing!!!


GOD, Family, Dirt Track Racing,  OU Football, and the 
Dallas Cowboys is what we live for:)

Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U
October 24, 2008 at 08:09:57 PM
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This message was edited on October 24, 2008 at 08:19:30 PM by Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U

David

Sorry, but this will be a bit long winded:

Your a news reporter or photo journalist ? For which publication (s) ?

I signed on to this Public site after constant bashing of one of my drivers was taking place.

Up till Then I was quite and mostly checking this site for business reasons and a measure of things and how people were thinking about other tracks, operators, drivers, pay-outs, rules, promo's and the like. Up until then I watched and was content to continue to watch and read post for information we could use to make decisions in southern Oklahoma.

When the continued attacks on one of our teams went un- checked week after week I decided to sign on and post my opposition to such conduct, since no one else was saying or doing anything to stop it.

To which you promptly deleted one of the the entire threads and pronounced it handled. I objected; as you recall, because we as a race team had just started to respond to the attacks; like everyone else on here has done in numerous past topics. You chose not to delete it until the night I got on and started to respond with facts and substance, not NAME Calling and Accusatory rants on the border of libel and character assassination of a Great Driver and his team. It only got heated when those individuals; and you know who you are, were challenged by me and some team members. You did not go after them, you went after us!

These types of people (Again you know who you are) are quick to launch an attack on a driver and say what ever they want, completely un-checked by you David, but let anyone challenge them and they get upset and forget the driver and start bashing whom ever is challenging them. Boy to they get upset when their Mob-Mentality is not effective any more, they must run for help!! Guess who they run to?

We were cut off because (1) one poster asked you to snuff it out! I objected on the grounds it allowed the wild post to go un-challenged and as such left it up in the air as to the validity of the accusations publicly posted for week and weeks. Leaving us with no rebutal or ability to respond in kind.

My issue was then and is now, that the attacks on this man went unchecked week after week after week, and you ; David, as the site operator did not intervene and call for a more civil content.

Yet when myself and others chimed in and started to rebutt the ridiculous post and challenge the responses and allegations being made, you, David, called us the problem.

You publicly condoned these individuals actions by not toning down their attacks or issuing warnings, or telling them to Grow Up, or anything of the sort.

I post on race topics, I posted the "Black Ice" thread that ran up over 2150 hits in a few days. Most of the rebuts came from OKCFAN and others in his like mind set, and myself. I never attacked, but offered facts and substance...too which you, David, now claim were "Worthless Content". While on the other hand some other posters offered nothing but ranting attacks that made no sense and were always changing the subject. You did nothing to corral them, but now point the finger at me because I challenge there responses when I believed I had the better argument and would offer proof of it.

Now you see me as a problem, for no other cause than I challenge information being posted? You see that as wrong because I dont post enough about racing! But you allow your buddy to post Skate Boarder videos and Fantasy Football and god knows what other Non-Race topics!

Yes I posted on political threads, so did others, and there I was attacked by the self proclaimed Liberal OKCFAN and ( Again) those with a like mind set. You did nothing to stop the attacks and vicious name calling.

You claim that in order to gain respect in this area, one has to post more Race Topics than his Challengers? Huh?

If I wasn't under attack consistently by a few of the bully posters you have allowed to thrive on your site, I could have focused more time on race topics and none of this would be happening.

Racing is it boys! But I must admit, I love to talk shop as well. I only wish that I was allowed to do just that without constantly being hammered by a hyper cyber-headed fantasy race fan with a bloated ego pumped full of super dry tracks & skate board wrecks.

Apparently Cody is your friend and nothing anyone shows you will cause you to do anything against your friend. The Titanic was sunk by a Iceberg, Not a very impressive Iceberg from all outward appearance but a massive mountain of ice hidden under water out of sight, took the un-sinkable to the bottom. Is OKCFan that small little iceberg?

I believe I have voiced my position on this enough! If the Fans and racers on this site are willing to accept these sets of rules in order to satisfy the Need for Speed, then they shouldn't complain about car-tech or Track rules, or Official Rulings at any race for they are no different.

You do as you wish David, its your Track, you make the rules, you can let you buddies through tech with illegal stuff all you want, but sooner or later the car count goes down and the fans base dwindles and then nothing!!

If you are indeed a journalist. then it is clear the line that can't be crossed in Freedom of Speech. Allow me to be perfectly clear about any driver or team of mine , now or in the future, for you to allow future libel, or defamation to go un-challenged on your Public Forum pertaining to any of these entities, whether you are aware of it or not, will be due cause for action in the form of a public rebuttal or if declined, a written request for a Public Correction of the the Facts and the cessation of further publication or broadcast of same over the Internet, ergo your Public Forum.

Congratulations you have succeeded in gaining my attention.

MM- Goodnight

PS......I apoligize to anyone who might have been offended in any way what so ever with any content that I might have posted. It was not my intent to offend, but rather to challenge what I believed was incorrect and offer my opinion, whether it be racing or political. Free and open exchange of Ideas and opinions are the fertilizer of the American way of life and free enterprise of which we all depend. Thank all of you who supported my opinions, and thank you folks who didn't but allowed me to express my views freely. I had many fun exchanges of ideas, I did enjoy it. ......see everyone at the tracks next year.

Mad Mike- again goodnight- and signing off...........roll out tonight for race Saturday! Will Check thread tonight in stop over in Tulsa. Thanks again eveyone!


Fight to win on the Track, not in the parking lot! I 
just love the " Ur # 1. wave " from fellow racers as 
we head home to our other lives !

The_announcer
October 24, 2008 at 09:02:54 PM
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Is it just me or is anyone else getting to the point where all they hear is noise??????? Figuratively speaking.



smoman
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October 24, 2008 at 09:45:33 PM
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Free entertainment.David let this one go,It might get better.


Steve Moyer CKS Fabrication & Welding                  
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I want my last words to be "damn this is fun"

OKCFan12
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October 25, 2008 at 01:59:56 AM
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This message was edited on October 25, 2008 at 02:14:57 AM by OKCFan12
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Posted By: Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U on October 24 2008 at 08:09:57 PM

David

Sorry, but this will be a bit long winded:

Your a news reporter or photo journalist ? For which publication (s) ?

I signed on to this Public site after constant bashing of one of my drivers was taking place.

Up till Then I was quite and mostly checking this site for business reasons and a measure of things and how people were thinking about other tracks, operators, drivers, pay-outs, rules, promo's and the like. Up until then I watched and was content to continue to watch and read post for information we could use to make decisions in southern Oklahoma.

When the continued attacks on one of our teams went un- checked week after week I decided to sign on and post my opposition to such conduct, since no one else was saying or doing anything to stop it.

To which you promptly deleted one of the the entire threads and pronounced it handled. I objected; as you recall, because we as a race team had just started to respond to the attacks; like everyone else on here has done in numerous past topics. You chose not to delete it until the night I got on and started to respond with facts and substance, not NAME Calling and Accusatory rants on the border of libel and character assassination of a Great Driver and his team. It only got heated when those individuals; and you know who you are, were challenged by me and some team members. You did not go after them, you went after us!

These types of people (Again you know who you are) are quick to launch an attack on a driver and say what ever they want, completely un-checked by you David, but let anyone challenge them and they get upset and forget the driver and start bashing whom ever is challenging them. Boy to they get upset when their Mob-Mentality is not effective any more, they must run for help!! Guess who they run to?

We were cut off because (1) one poster asked you to snuff it out! I objected on the grounds it allowed the wild post to go un-challenged and as such left it up in the air as to the validity of the accusations publicly posted for week and weeks. Leaving us with no rebutal or ability to respond in kind.

My issue was then and is now, that the attacks on this man went unchecked week after week after week, and you ; David, as the site operator did not intervene and call for a more civil content.

Yet when myself and others chimed in and started to rebutt the ridiculous post and challenge the responses and allegations being made, you, David, called us the problem.

You publicly condoned these individuals actions by not toning down their attacks or issuing warnings, or telling them to Grow Up, or anything of the sort.

I post on race topics, I posted the "Black Ice" thread that ran up over 2150 hits in a few days. Most of the rebuts came from OKCFAN and others in his like mind set, and myself. I never attacked, but offered facts and substance...too which you, David, now claim were "Worthless Content". While on the other hand some other posters offered nothing but ranting attacks that made no sense and were always changing the subject. You did nothing to corral them, but now point the finger at me because I challenge there responses when I believed I had the better argument and would offer proof of it.

Now you see me as a problem, for no other cause than I challenge information being posted? You see that as wrong because I dont post enough about racing! But you allow your buddy to post Skate Boarder videos and Fantasy Football and god knows what other Non-Race topics!

Yes I posted on political threads, so did others, and there I was attacked by the self proclaimed Liberal OKCFAN and ( Again) those with a like mind set. You did nothing to stop the attacks and vicious name calling.

You claim that in order to gain respect in this area, one has to post more Race Topics than his Challengers? Huh?

If I wasn't under attack consistently by a few of the bully posters you have allowed to thrive on your site, I could have focused more time on race topics and none of this would be happening.

Racing is it boys! But I must admit, I love to talk shop as well. I only wish that I was allowed to do just that without constantly being hammered by a hyper cyber-headed fantasy race fan with a bloated ego pumped full of super dry tracks & skate board wrecks.

Apparently Cody is your friend and nothing anyone shows you will cause you to do anything against your friend. The Titanic was sunk by a Iceberg, Not a very impressive Iceberg from all outward appearance but a massive mountain of ice hidden under water out of sight, took the un-sinkable to the bottom. Is OKCFan that small little iceberg?

I believe I have voiced my position on this enough! If the Fans and racers on this site are willing to accept these sets of rules in order to satisfy the Need for Speed, then they shouldn't complain about car-tech or Track rules, or Official Rulings at any race for they are no different.

You do as you wish David, its your Track, you make the rules, you can let you buddies through tech with illegal stuff all you want, but sooner or later the car count goes down and the fans base dwindles and then nothing!!

If you are indeed a journalist. then it is clear the line that can't be crossed in Freedom of Speech. Allow me to be perfectly clear about any driver or team of mine , now or in the future, for you to allow future libel, or defamation to go un-challenged on your Public Forum pertaining to any of these entities, whether you are aware of it or not, will be due cause for action in the form of a public rebuttal or if declined, a written request for a Public Correction of the the Facts and the cessation of further publication or broadcast of same over the Internet, ergo your Public Forum.

Congratulations you have succeeded in gaining my attention.

MM- Goodnight

PS......I apoligize to anyone who might have been offended in any way what so ever with any content that I might have posted. It was not my intent to offend, but rather to challenge what I believed was incorrect and offer my opinion, whether it be racing or political. Free and open exchange of Ideas and opinions are the fertilizer of the American way of life and free enterprise of which we all depend. Thank all of you who supported my opinions, and thank you folks who didn't but allowed me to express my views freely. I had many fun exchanges of ideas, I did enjoy it. ......see everyone at the tracks next year.

Mad Mike- again goodnight- and signing off...........roll out tonight for race Saturday! Will Check thread tonight in stop over in Tulsa. Thanks again eveyone!



whats with your campaign and lobbying posters - now even the moderator - with stuff about me. you're the one who attacks and bullys everyone ------- i've found a way to exist with others on this forum for a few years. what have you done but attack people. there is so much completely retarded audacity in just about every statement you made there. you have some nerve in claiming you were under attack by anyone ---- maybe you are just that dense to think thats what it is when someone disagrees with you. you've dished out attacks over 10-1 to which you received any.

i like what all that noise you have about the mini stocks thread. how you're mad ya'll didnt get a chance to respond to attacks. well i got my chance to respond to yours - and i will continue to every single day you are on this forum attacking and making snide comments at me. the truth is - you aint here for any good reason. if you were you would not attack everyone. you wouldnt be campaigning like some amatuer politician for stuff against me ----- or better yet ------ talkin shit to people for even knowing me or being friends with me.

your obviously mad at david because he hasnt "shut me down". you have no place to talk any crap to him for how he runs his forum. you keep insinuating that you could do such a better job. with all your punk fake criticism ------ how bout you go start your own and show us how its done. i guess when all else fails in all the crap you talk on me ----- go straight to the teacher and talk about the bullys huh? even though its you who tries to bully anyone that disagrees with you or isnt furthering along your ambitions. your full of it.

you talk crap bout me posting a skater vid. or anything anyone posts non topic - o no. and then go on to talk about your posting in politics. wanna continue to tell david how he should run his forum. huh? no screen names - no non racing related topics (unless its something you are interested in) - allowing vicious attacks and name calling (from a crybaby who cant admit thats ALL he is about) - and theres much more. funny seeing you try to bully even david into doing what you want. when you look at that post in its entirety - with the continuation of your BS lobbying bout me ------ and then go on to mention all this legal stuff.

you are just lookin for others to blame when your nitwitted attacks dont and have not succeeded in accomplishing the desired effect (of which you have more than 1). that may be the truest thing i've said yet. the only bully on this forum has been you. you and your agenda got partially and fundamentally exposed in the crash thread - by several people. so you just go forth assuming they are all my supporters. funny how you still make arguments that I - and others - have already blown completely to bits. you really are reaching. the only attacks on this forum that went unchecked ------- were made by you. and even when i became aware of the intent of your campaign and lobbying ------- i still dont disagree with David for not deleting it. its not my place to tell him how to run his stuff. or to criticize how he does it. he makes fewer errors at it than ANYONE else here would. and i wont campaign to him to have you "shut down" or talk shit to him to do so. you seem to to be doing very well at it yourself. i have faith that all these people here see it and you for what it is/you are. you're the negative village you know what. and no one likes you any more for it now --- than they liked me for it when i would be negative. btw as far as you lobbying the moderator. i doubt he wants to send the impression to his forum that a double talking aggressive wanna-be politician can actually get someone he is baselessly harassing - "shut down" on his forum. just a guess for you to consider (which means like all other criticism of big bad mike - ignore). no - i wont be a coward and lobby and whine to david smith to deal with you. i'll take the pleasure.

for the most part i'm not half as controversial or negative for about the majority of this year - as any other time. like your fake claims - i didnt intend to insult people either. but i'm mature enough now to admit that i did. and i wont use the excuse i meant it different that they took it either. this is the exact reason i wouldnt get into exchanges like this - constant back and forth - in all the other threads you kept running your mouth. there was a very clear point in which i started being much more positive than ever - or better yet less negative than ever. and i bet all those you lobby your attacks on me to - know when it was - and for what/why it was. and that is also the same reason i dont like talkin politics here. i know some of these people - i dont want to insult them. i'll meet more of em surely too - i dont want to insult any of them. there was 1 political thread i posted harshly in a couple months back. and i felt stupid not long after - feel stupid for it now. if i am to get off topic these days - meaning post something not race related ----- i'll make damn sure its positive you know what i mean? and definitely not go on a propaganda campaign against someone else on this site - no matter how much i disagree with them. thats the funny part - you have to get into some awfully small details to even come at me now. and for as long as you wanna keep running your mouth about me - technically my responses - no matter how sharp and pointy - are still defense.

i could go on forever. but as your lobbying will most likely continue - there will be time for that. your lil PS type reply at the end is horrid bull. o no - mad mike never intended to verbally attack anyone just sharing his views ::::in my best sarcastic voice:::::::::: dude all you have done is tear others opinions down. you werent/arent just challenging thers opinions - that what we were doing 4 a long time before blessed with the "o yeah - i'll fill the front page up with my BS" presence. -------- u were aggressively attacking as well as discrediting folks for their thoughts. and your "did i do that?" logic ------ explains absolutely none of your posts. it doesnt explain you attacking the dozens you have on here ------ let alone your negative campaign against me. if you think me such a derilict that you want to attack the forum moderator (among others) for not bowing down to you to deal with it ------ dude just start your own forum. but we both know you wont ---- because you wouldnt have much an audience for whoever/whatever it is you take aim at.

i think i still only addressed half what i want. but man this is sufficient.

here is a true BTW for you. me and david smith aint little buddies. I think its been - what - MAS last year since i even talked to him outside here. sure i think he's good guy. does a great job with this forum and everything he is involved with. but man we've traded jabs at each other at times as well. i'm even mature enough to admit he bitch slapped me pretty good a few times back in the day - and i wasnt even acting half the ass you have been or are now. but nonetheless - a few times i deserved it. no - we aint best of buds. we coexist is probably the best way to put it. the more positive i am than negative - probably the better he feels about it. its yet another shame for your constant barrage of crap against me and others. i posted when it became utterly clear you werent gonna shut up. and i wasnt going to go cry to the moderator about being harassed every day on this forum. no - i wont try to sway people one way or the other. no - no matter how positive i wished to have stayed - with you campaigning - it was just an eventuality to respond. so yeah i'll defend myself against your attack and crybaby negative campaign against me - and even expose you for the ass you are in the process.

i know you could certainly add David to the list of people YOU have assumed to be associated with me - then tee off on em for it. man something tells me that was not a good idea.....

finally. you really wanna talk crap about fantasy stuff on here? damn you really are desperate aint ya. i'd like to call you a worthless fartknocker - but sure dont want professor burch to cry about someone he is attacking callin him names. that just aint right is it? if you cant face the fact you're a complete joke ----- i'll continue to PROVE just where you are. and i dont have nitpick through a bunch of small stuff like skater crashes and fantasy stuff. i can just continue to prove just how full of crap you are. you do make it awfully easy. and a lil fun to i gotta admit........i mean - doesnt everyone take pleasure in shutting up aggressively loud bullies............yeah. i know. me too. and also - fantasy football, X Games wrecks, pretty much anything ----- see that stuff is positive. you;re nothing but negative - on or off topic. so i dont think a pee drop in the toilet like yourself ------- has anything on the positive things others choose to participate in on here.


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wouldchuck could chuck would

SFSfan
October 25, 2008 at 09:55:21 AM
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Hey Mike. Who are your drivers? Which ones do you sponsor? Just a curious fan who likes to be in the know. Not making any sort of attack to you. Just an honest question from me.

Jeff Stevens


"They're steering them sum bi***es with their right 
foot!"

dirtfan4life
October 25, 2008 at 12:58:35 PM
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Posted By: SFSfan on October 25 2008 at 09:55:21 AM

Hey Mike. Who are your drivers? Which ones do you sponsor? Just a curious fan who likes to be in the know. Not making any sort of attack to you. Just an honest question from me.

Jeff Stevens



His driver and he sponsors the #2 mini stock Casey Henning at Lawton I dont know of anyone else he sponsors



Got Dirt
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dirt fan mike is not in town til monday night. I will tell you casey was mike own private project. it turned into a test for him to use next year here in oklahoma and casey turned out to be very good and was watch in 2006 and mike went private to make championship run with casey this time and they worked to a 2008 champship for the entry class.this is my and our town track and we want to run some here in 2009 to be at home moer weeksend and to try moer local sponsor with the saveing we have. he is not real happy with stuff going on at tracks, we want to race hard but it is a hard to understand the angry people and no rules till you win and go to tech and the respect that is not here. this place is just weired sometimes and I do not mean that in a bad way. mike wanted me to write you back about car sponsors and cars are private because we are told to in sponsors contracts that it is not racing we can not use it for private reason to get them into things they do not want to be into.



milton waddoms
October 25, 2008 at 09:50:15 PM
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Fight to win on the Track, not in the parking lot! I just love the " Ur # 1. wave " from fellow racers as we head home to our other lives ! I guess posting on here is the other life your referring to.

dirtrack234
October 26, 2008 at 08:43:08 AM
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Posted By: David Smith Jr on October 24 2008 at 12:59:21 PM

Yes, OKCfan gets a little lost on some of his topics but he has posted more about racing in one day then you have since you have been a poster on here. That I don't mind. A person can speak their mind/opinion every now and then but not the total rambling about worthless crap such as you do.

And how I handle or have handled OKC fan is none of your business whatsoever. As I stated, I can handle him alot better cause he is a carbon copy of myself when I first wrote columns for Sprint Car News back in 1995. Doesn't make it right but I tend to give him some slack as he does bring up discussions about racing.

You however, no so much.

All you seem to want to do is bash him and anybody else who doesn't see your way but just as "Fumanda" and others who had thought they were being cute and attractive for attention on here, they are no longer posters. The day will come when you will get tired and go away.

Now then, if you can post racing topics and discussion and let people also voice their opinions, we don't have a problem. Until then......



Grow up and give it a break. And that is my freedom of speech, on MY website. That is what david said and I also thought it was ment for both but guess not. Mad Mike you also have a FREEDOM OF SPEECH. well you do on HIS website until he decides you dont. I have loved reading both of you guys post. Most of the time they make me laugh. This winter might get a little boring if you didnt have your freedom of speech.


JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U
October 27, 2008 at 09:05:15 PM
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Posted By: OKCFan12 on October 25 2008 at 01:59:56 AM

whats with your campaign and lobbying posters - now even the moderator - with stuff about me. you're the one who attacks and bullys everyone ------- i've found a way to exist with others on this forum for a few years. what have you done but attack people. there is so much completely retarded audacity in just about every statement you made there. you have some nerve in claiming you were under attack by anyone ---- maybe you are just that dense to think thats what it is when someone disagrees with you. you've dished out attacks over 10-1 to which you received any.

i like what all that noise you have about the mini stocks thread. how you're mad ya'll didnt get a chance to respond to attacks. well i got my chance to respond to yours - and i will continue to every single day you are on this forum attacking and making snide comments at me. the truth is - you aint here for any good reason. if you were you would not attack everyone. you wouldnt be campaigning like some amatuer politician for stuff against me ----- or better yet ------ talkin shit to people for even knowing me or being friends with me.

your obviously mad at david because he hasnt "shut me down". you have no place to talk any crap to him for how he runs his forum. you keep insinuating that you could do such a better job. with all your punk fake criticism ------ how bout you go start your own and show us how its done. i guess when all else fails in all the crap you talk on me ----- go straight to the teacher and talk about the bullys huh? even though its you who tries to bully anyone that disagrees with you or isnt furthering along your ambitions. your full of it.

you talk crap bout me posting a skater vid. or anything anyone posts non topic - o no. and then go on to talk about your posting in politics. wanna continue to tell david how he should run his forum. huh? no screen names - no non racing related topics (unless its something you are interested in) - allowing vicious attacks and name calling (from a crybaby who cant admit thats ALL he is about) - and theres much more. funny seeing you try to bully even david into doing what you want. when you look at that post in its entirety - with the continuation of your BS lobbying bout me ------ and then go on to mention all this legal stuff.

you are just lookin for others to blame when your nitwitted attacks dont and have not succeeded in accomplishing the desired effect (of which you have more than 1). that may be the truest thing i've said yet. the only bully on this forum has been you. you and your agenda got partially and fundamentally exposed in the crash thread - by several people. so you just go forth assuming they are all my supporters. funny how you still make arguments that I - and others - have already blown completely to bits. you really are reaching. the only attacks on this forum that went unchecked ------- were made by you. and even when i became aware of the intent of your campaign and lobbying ------- i still dont disagree with David for not deleting it. its not my place to tell him how to run his stuff. or to criticize how he does it. he makes fewer errors at it than ANYONE else here would. and i wont campaign to him to have you "shut down" or talk shit to him to do so. you seem to to be doing very well at it yourself. i have faith that all these people here see it and you for what it is/you are. you're the negative village you know what. and no one likes you any more for it now --- than they liked me for it when i would be negative. btw as far as you lobbying the moderator. i doubt he wants to send the impression to his forum that a double talking aggressive wanna-be politician can actually get someone he is baselessly harassing - "shut down" on his forum. just a guess for you to consider (which means like all other criticism of big bad mike - ignore). no - i wont be a coward and lobby and whine to david smith to deal with you. i'll take the pleasure.

for the most part i'm not half as controversial or negative for about the majority of this year - as any other time. like your fake claims - i didnt intend to insult people either. but i'm mature enough now to admit that i did. and i wont use the excuse i meant it different that they took it either. this is the exact reason i wouldnt get into exchanges like this - constant back and forth - in all the other threads you kept running your mouth. there was a very clear point in which i started being much more positive than ever - or better yet less negative than ever. and i bet all those you lobby your attacks on me to - know when it was - and for what/why it was. and that is also the same reason i dont like talkin politics here. i know some of these people - i dont want to insult them. i'll meet more of em surely too - i dont want to insult any of them. there was 1 political thread i posted harshly in a couple months back. and i felt stupid not long after - feel stupid for it now. if i am to get off topic these days - meaning post something not race related ----- i'll make damn sure its positive you know what i mean? and definitely not go on a propaganda campaign against someone else on this site - no matter how much i disagree with them. thats the funny part - you have to get into some awfully small details to even come at me now. and for as long as you wanna keep running your mouth about me - technically my responses - no matter how sharp and pointy - are still defense.

i could go on forever. but as your lobbying will most likely continue - there will be time for that. your lil PS type reply at the end is horrid bull. o no - mad mike never intended to verbally attack anyone just sharing his views ::::in my best sarcastic voice:::::::::: dude all you have done is tear others opinions down. you werent/arent just challenging thers opinions - that what we were doing 4 a long time before blessed with the "o yeah - i'll fill the front page up with my BS" presence. -------- u were aggressively attacking as well as discrediting folks for their thoughts. and your "did i do that?" logic ------ explains absolutely none of your posts. it doesnt explain you attacking the dozens you have on here ------ let alone your negative campaign against me. if you think me such a derilict that you want to attack the forum moderator (among others) for not bowing down to you to deal with it ------ dude just start your own forum. but we both know you wont ---- because you wouldnt have much an audience for whoever/whatever it is you take aim at.

i think i still only addressed half what i want. but man this is sufficient.

here is a true BTW for you. me and david smith aint little buddies. I think its been - what - MAS last year since i even talked to him outside here. sure i think he's good guy. does a great job with this forum and everything he is involved with. but man we've traded jabs at each other at times as well. i'm even mature enough to admit he bitch slapped me pretty good a few times back in the day - and i wasnt even acting half the ass you have been or are now. but nonetheless - a few times i deserved it. no - we aint best of buds. we coexist is probably the best way to put it. the more positive i am than negative - probably the better he feels about it. its yet another shame for your constant barrage of crap against me and others. i posted when it became utterly clear you werent gonna shut up. and i wasnt going to go cry to the moderator about being harassed every day on this forum. no - i wont try to sway people one way or the other. no - no matter how positive i wished to have stayed - with you campaigning - it was just an eventuality to respond. so yeah i'll defend myself against your attack and crybaby negative campaign against me - and even expose you for the ass you are in the process.

i know you could certainly add David to the list of people YOU have assumed to be associated with me - then tee off on em for it. man something tells me that was not a good idea.....

finally. you really wanna talk crap about fantasy stuff on here? damn you really are desperate aint ya. i'd like to call you a worthless fartknocker - but sure dont want professor burch to cry about someone he is attacking callin him names. that just aint right is it? if you cant face the fact you're a complete joke ----- i'll continue to PROVE just where you are. and i dont have nitpick through a bunch of small stuff like skater crashes and fantasy stuff. i can just continue to prove just how full of crap you are. you do make it awfully easy. and a lil fun to i gotta admit........i mean - doesnt everyone take pleasure in shutting up aggressively loud bullies............yeah. i know. me too. and also - fantasy football, X Games wrecks, pretty much anything ----- see that stuff is positive. you;re nothing but negative - on or off topic. so i dont think a pee drop in the toilet like yourself ------- has anything on the positive things others choose to participate in on here.



OKFan

I was gone for a weekend. Sorry I'm late getting back to you. You do seem to have put the time to good use. ...lol I will try to do it justice....but I do have an life to get back to...so here goes:

I guess my writings are..quote " Retarded" !! Okay !!! If you say so! You should know retarded when you see it! ......just a joke !!! Joking here......!!! lol.

Any time a statement is made in a public forum it becomes a fact to the public who reads it, of course unless there is a counter view point published in a timely manner to challenge its veracity. That is why we objected to the mini stock post being deleted. There was no chance to counter the accusations in public and left the truth in question. There was no retraction allowed as well. If you disagree with that principal of basic journalistic integrity, then you probably embrace the ' Fairness Doctrine' that eliminates all opposition to the DNC's platform by law.

I speak english sir, I have never talked "Shit", what language is that? Sounds a little foul to me.

Not angry at David. You mis-understood and took out of context what I meant by " Shut Down". I ment for someone to post a reply to you that in effect would " Shut You Down" on a particular subject instead of everyone just giving you a "Pass" on everything you write. No one wants to put you out of the business on the forum. That is just your 'mini-you' talking in the "Shit" language you like to invoke so much.

Whew....!!!! Skaters!!!!!! What to do????

Let them crash on stair rails till nothing works down there anymore! The species wont survive much longer. Especially if they keep thinking they can fly! LOL....... My opinion.....so can you deal with that??

You obviously dont want to discuss anything. So in order to get you to open up about a subject, is to simply take an opposing stance.

So..........: how about that blue sky, isn't that a nice color? I could watch that blue sky all day. Gota love the night sky as well, all full of bright stars and that big ol' harvest moon!!!! I love fall and the changing leaves. Can't wait till Friday night for our big Halloween Party at the shop. We will fire up a new motor this Friday and drive it out of the shop, new motors are great! We all like black tires with them big ol raised letters. Clear tear offs are best. Big Block Mods are louder that mini stocks. I like a tacky short track for 20 laps rather than a dry one for 20. On the mile, a rubbered up dry slick is much better for 40 or 200. Your a spoiled forum poster, and a far left extreme liberal socialist voting for the re-distribution of middle class income to the welfare culture so that you feel better about the opportunites and success in your own life without having to give directly from your bank account.

Hope you get my point and decide to discuss issues with me. Hell it would be fun to talk shop for a change. Your opinion may be valuable if you would narrow the focus of your attention and address the topic without changing the subject. I'm guilty of that as well, but willing to try....dude!!

MM at the track

PS..........I meant everything I said in my Last PS, and though it might get your goat.....I dont care what you think of my statement.....as long as I believe in it.!!!! I dont care what you think of me or my positions, what I care about are facts and the truth.....the substance of a topic. If you have a good arguement, then I will respect that from you and that is what I am all about. You see.....I don't care what you think....I care only to discuss what you know and ideas and the substance of a topic. We are long past all things about what you..... think!

MM at the track

 

 

 

 


Fight to win on the Track, not in the parking lot! I 
just love the " Ur # 1. wave " from fellow racers as 
we head home to our other lives !

SFSfan
October 28, 2008 at 08:20:18 AM
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In one of OkcFan's latest remarks he used the term fartknocker. I just want to say that I think that is a funny term. I haven't heard/used that in a while and it always makes me laugh out loud. FARTKNOCKER! Good stuff from the "old" days.


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foot!"

bsman63
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http://www.jerryspringertv.com/be_a_guest.php

 


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down"   -Paul Newman

Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U
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http://www.jerryspringertv.com/be_a_guest.php

 



 

You knew where to find it!!!!! Didn't ya!!! Uhhh.....huh!!! yep you did!!!! LOL !

Funny

MM


Fight to win on the Track, not in the parking lot! I 
just love the " Ur # 1. wave " from fellow racers as 
we head home to our other lives !

bsman63
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yup. googled it! had to try to lighten this thread a bit........


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Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U
October 30, 2008 at 09:48:29 AM
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yup. googled it! had to try to lighten this thread a bit........



LOL....its still funny! Dont think he would show up, but who knows....I'm game...where do I sign up?

Did you see any old clips of OKCFan on there? Titled " Skaters of Americia Unite" or " I Crashed my Board and had it surgically removed" or " I found my wife on my Board"

He's not around here much!! Maybe someone made him actually READ his own post and he had to go buy some more Maalox or was it Pinko-Pepto?

MM

 


Fight to win on the Track, not in the parking lot! I 
just love the " Ur # 1. wave " from fellow racers as 
we head home to our other lives !

OKCFan12
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not around much? lol dont know where you get that..........

you must not be paying attention. at least to anything outside this thread lol. not suprising...


How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

Mad Mike Burch...Not Hiding from U
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not around much? lol dont know where you get that..........

you must not be paying attention. at least to anything outside this thread lol. not suprising...



Actually I have been seeing you on other threads, and you have been doing very well and I hate to have to say it, but you sounded like a fan reporting on things in a objective manner. I even read a post where you seemed to attempt to defend some guys and tracks!

Does this mean you are making an attempt to prove me wrong? Well what ever the cause keep it up the sport needs objectivity and a fair and balanced race analysis for fans.

Anytime you want to pick a fight with me, feel free, I'm ready, but dont expect me to be nice like I have been!

The election is full of waist product and not fun anymore! After racing and the elections, what is left to fuss over?

Put on your Sellers or Owens Halloween Mask and go get ya some Friday night!!! ....and No I have no favourite....Sellers or Owens! Both are equal to me.

MM on the candy trail!!


Fight to win on the Track, not in the parking lot! I 
just love the " Ur # 1. wave " from fellow racers as 
we head home to our other lives !

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