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Topic: Dollansky wins @ Paducah
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sprint2257
July 29, 2008 at 05:11:18 PM
Joined: 02/10/2005
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please MSPN...they should be thrilled to have a place to race..this isnt a grims fairy tale and they are not the wicked step sisters...and they should not be treated any differently now than before...if it bothered the WOO so much and they really had no need for their car count or fan base they could have just refused them back...get real...the WOO needed them just as much as they needed a place to race..it was a win /win situation...sounds like it bothers you..so you can whine to your signifigant other is she cares to listen...as for them whining or lamenting when their favorite doesnt win...its called being a fan..and its funny you need those ..esp to keep paying the big bucks...its those people who make it possible..so it doesnt matter if they are cheering or booing...they have butts in the seats..and that is all that matters...because those guys on the track..they are there to feed their own addiction..they would race for free and if no one was there if they had too...they need it...its like a drug that has to pump thru their veins..having a fan base just makes it a bigger high and a bigger wallet..fans buy shirts and anything else that shows who their favorites are...and wait..fans buy pictures too...so others get to feed their addictions...hmmmmm..a good gig if you can get it...



MSPN
July 29, 2008 at 05:36:19 PM
Joined: 11/23/2004
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They aren't being treated differently except for the fans that generally weren't there, didn't see it, don't know better, etc etc etc. Not sure what to make of the speech or ramble or rant or whatever you might call it, but it has nothing to do with what we're talking about anyway, sooooooo. My point is to merely address the CONSTANT whining when somebody's driver doesn't win and then it's a friggin conspiracy, gimme a break. For years people in this forum complained about Gordon whining, McCarl whining, Sammy or Rusty Wallace, Tony Stewart and on and on, ironically the biggest whiners are right here in print, who'da thunk? Take It Easy....



henry chinaski
July 29, 2008 at 05:54:12 PM
Joined: 04/18/2008
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This message was edited on July 29, 2008 at 05:54:52 PM by henry chinaski
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Posted By: MSPN on July 29 2008 at 05:36:19 PM

They aren't being treated differently except for the fans that generally weren't there, didn't see it, don't know better, etc etc etc. Not sure what to make of the speech or ramble or rant or whatever you might call it, but it has nothing to do with what we're talking about anyway, sooooooo. My point is to merely address the CONSTANT whining when somebody's driver doesn't win and then it's a friggin conspiracy, gimme a break. For years people in this forum complained about Gordon whining, McCarl whining, Sammy or Rusty Wallace, Tony Stewart and on and on, ironically the biggest whiners are right here in print, who'da thunk? Take It Easy....



You miss the point more often than not. The point here is that a judgement call was made by the officials that greatly affected the outcome of the race. That judgement call has not to my knowledge been used before to stop a race with a yellow this past year of the year before. Jason Sides wasnt racing for the lead yet he is cause to stop the awesome battle that the top two cars had going?? Fans should be pissed about this kind of arbitrary rule use, I see cars pass low in the infield at outlaw shows and no call at all. What made this so different that they needed to stink up the show with a competition caution ala NAPCAR? When the officials feel like pulling their heads out of their asses maybe we can get back to real racing again. Oh and one more thing MSPN I have been a sprint car fan longer than the time you spent leaching off the sport I love. How many royalty payments did you make to the drivers when you sold your pictures of them? Ah right I bet not too much if any... I bet the racers must miss you being at the track, not...LOL.
Cheers!

filtalr
July 29, 2008 at 06:03:14 PM
Joined: 01/06/2005
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I wasn't there but heard from my reliable source that he cut below a "corner-marking" tire. Not sure if it was handled correctly - but you cannot cut through the infield to advance your position. If that was allowed - what's next - guys cutting through the infield halfway to shorten the track? There is a rule in place against cutting corners - sounds like they cut him a break and didn't put him all the way to the rear? Unfortunately for Meyers, Sides did it just when Jason passed Craig for the lead. Again another unfortunate set of circumstances but (unlike us armchair officials) the WoO officials had to make a call within seconds rather than the hours we've had to review, re-hash and second guess what we think should have been done.

Perhaps one of y'all brainiacs can step up and devise a computer program that will integrate the on-board transponders, GPS satellites and the rulebook within milliseconds so we don't need human officials at the track making calls at all. ;)


Phil Taylor

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MSPN
July 29, 2008 at 06:04:02 PM
Joined: 11/23/2004
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The point you miss now and usually is that you weren't there and have no clue what happened, do you? Love whatever you want, clueless is still clueless. Get back to me when you get the info at the driver's meeting and have a valid point, if ever. Take It Easy....

PS Had many different deals with the drivers over the years which is likely why about 190 of 'em ran my decal at one point or another, sorry......



sprint2257
July 29, 2008 at 06:06:45 PM
Joined: 02/10/2005
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i was commenting on your constantly saying they should be so grateful to the woo for taking them back..and you are always making light of people whining...everytime i see a post from you i know it will contain at least one of those items...no matter what the content of the thread is.. it was neither a rant or speech or a ramble ...it was just addressing your constant complaint about the nst deserters...can you be so sure they are not being treated unfairly..guess the rest of us just arent privy to that info...because its entirely possible..humans are running it...and we all have favorites...even the officials..dont think they took an oath to be upstanding and completely fair.... just a thought.



rj5150
July 29, 2008 at 06:24:06 PM
Joined: 07/29/2006
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This message was edited on July 29, 2008 at 06:27:40 PM by rj5150
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Posted By: filtalr on July 29 2008 at 06:03:14 PM

I wasn't there but heard from my reliable source that he cut below a "corner-marking" tire. Not sure if it was handled correctly - but you cannot cut through the infield to advance your position. If that was allowed - what's next - guys cutting through the infield halfway to shorten the track? There is a rule in place against cutting corners - sounds like they cut him a break and didn't put him all the way to the rear? Unfortunately for Meyers, Sides did it just when Jason passed Craig for the lead. Again another unfortunate set of circumstances but (unlike us armchair officials) the WoO officials had to make a call within seconds rather than the hours we've had to review, re-hash and second guess what we think should have been done.

Perhaps one of y'all brainiacs can step up and devise a computer program that will integrate the on-board transponders, GPS satellites and the rulebook within milliseconds so we don't need human officials at the track making calls at all. wink



A reliable source........that's what they all say. I'm so tired of people saying a relaible source with-out stating who the source was. Maybe the reliable source was what you read on the WoO site or what you heard during the radio broadcast and if that's the case that doesn't validate anything. Maybe a video will pop-up somewhere and we can see how it all played out. Then we can make judgement call at that point.


Trophy Cup......Best race of the year hands down!

BigRightRear
July 29, 2008 at 06:28:19 PM
Joined: 11/27/2004
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This message was edited on July 29, 2008 at 06:28:52 PM by BigRightRear

let it to the guy in CANADA who is NOT ALLOWED to attend races to discover a conspiracy!

last time i checked, conspiracies were sneaky secretive operations and NOT OVERT ASSININE CALLS THAT FANS AND DRIVERS ALIKE CALL ON THE CARPET.

when they begged SK back into the fold, i don't recall reading that he had to cut THEM a check. at a time when the stock was MANY times the 13 penny status it enjoys today.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=WRGI.OB

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/mb/WRGI.OB

should we look for a controversial big announcement this year during the Kville think tank meeting?

or maybe a nickel buy in?


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

team wright-one
MyWebsite
July 29, 2008 at 06:38:10 PM
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Posted By: from a sponsor on July 29 2008 at 10:43:26 AM

Maybe they were just trying to get Meyers ready for his beloved Nascar career, no running below the yellow line.



meyers was not called for running out of bounds.



MSPN
July 29, 2008 at 07:00:54 PM
Joined: 11/23/2004
Posts: 3943
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Okay, the thread is about highjacked but can BRR please explain this 'not allowed' stuff, lol. I saw them last year in MO, IA, OH and Canada and you saw at the Royal and Grove and you started your lastest misinformed theory, have at it dumbo.

You my unintelligent friend is one of the main conspiracy guys out there, I simply laugh when you go on you misguided tantrums. Heck, you have no excuse anymore for the pounding your boys get so the conspiracy thing must be your new game, laughable.

Sides went underneath a tire or something along those lines and a call was made, deal with it and stop making excuses. Or keep it up, this is pretty funny stuff, lol. Take It Easy....



BigRightRear
July 29, 2008 at 07:21:59 PM
Joined: 11/27/2004
Posts: 3751
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Sides went underneath a tire or something along those lines

wow...your remote viewing version is so much more convincing!

i guess you comments makes sense to someone who's racing attendance all revolves around "THEM" - you take the cake with your trip to the MOVIES...citing last year as a relevant record of attendance pretty much sums it up in the past tense.

very sad that you refuse to support local racing...where will these morons make the next ASSININE CALL without a local track to pay the sanction fee? i guess that press pass was revoked and now you can't slum it thru the gate anymore!

and for the record - you were the one to bring up the conspiracy theory in this thread...the rest of us are in agreement with the observations of several of your coveted "platinum" circus members. Meyers / Kinser / Kemenah and even your boy McCarl have made it clear...why don't you call your old "sticker" buddies and ask them why they are vocal about this horse shit?

get those free meds regulated before you lose your ability to remember your own success story...there some new sh!t out there now:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1039677/Daily-pill-halts-Alzheimers-hailed-biggest-breakthrough-disease-100-years.html)gest-breakthrough-disease-100-years.html

now get back to bottom feeding...and pour some bum a Coors Lite.


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

MSPN
July 29, 2008 at 07:32:47 PM
Joined: 11/23/2004
Posts: 3943
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Dang dumbo, you never answered my question, surprise. Unlike you I actually do talk to the drivers and last week I had nice discussions with Pittman, McCarl and Dollansky.

The conspiracy silly stuff is your game, not mine. Whatever happens, happens. You need to go to the horse racers and figure out a few things, especially when you have some $$$$$ on the line, I promise you it will help. Bartending takes the summer off, like the local horse track but I most assuredly will help out them bums once race season hits up here again, thank you. Take It Easy.....



BigRightRear
July 29, 2008 at 07:39:19 PM
Joined: 11/27/2004
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keep kidding yourself...when is your question relevant to anything!

now its horse racing that makes you an expert? keep moving the goal posts closer to that pile of horseshit and you get you confidence back!

you brought up the conspiracy word so why are you running from it?

i posted the link - get you meds changed before you embarass yourself further.


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

sprintgirl7
July 30, 2008 at 07:09:59 AM
Joined: 06/08/2007
Posts: 61
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Posted By: rj5150 on July 29 2008 at 04:27:14 PM

Glad to see the World Of Schatz's is doing it's part to keep the racing real balanced these day's Smile Got to love the calls their making. Makes me scratch my head sometimes. And yes Saldana doesn't get the same treatment as well. Remember how upset he was alot last year with the officials calls and not just towards him, but other drivers as well. It effects all the racers in the end........except Schatz and Dollansky i'm guessing. Just one person's opinion here.



I don't see where Dollansky has got any special treatment this year, However do agree that Schatz has, weather the call was right or not to me Meyers may have got screwed, and than Dollansky just got a lucky break with the yellow. We will never know if Meyers would have held on to the lead or Dollansky would have taken it back....but there has been other races that drivers have had breaks when someone has passed them, and then a yellow comes out and they go back to the previous lap, is this time different yes maybe but if he went below the line and advanced those are the rules, do they always go by them probably not. But to blame the Drivers for officials calls is wrong.(other than Schatz...LOL) But Please explain to me like I said before where has Dollansky got any special treatment?



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