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Just shows how ass-backwards things in this state are. Can you imagine the state of Iowa having the Knoxville Nationals one week in August and then not having sprint cars race any where,anytime in the state for the rest of the year ?? Call my post far-fetched but that is exactly what we have here in this state as far as midgets are concerned. And if I'm not mistaken,the car count last month at the Chili Bowl was far beyond what anyone expected.Again. Yes we need/want midget racing in this state on a bi-weekly or monthly basis. Would be great to see a summer/fall version of the Chili Bowl at SFS. I know thats dreamin but I would think it would draw people out of Ks.,TX and all over Okla.

I wonder if SMRS shows will be in the works this year or next at BMS.........

BMS seems like one of the few tracks that is on the upswing and will be able to add sprint shows in the future. thats cool. Ada is another - having some pretty successful OCRS shows last year - and also the addition of iced tea thrilled the Iced Tea Monster. When you win over the Iced Tea Monster - you gotta be doin' something right. lol. iced tea and sand - is it Ada? or the Bahama's?

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dependin' on the date maybe even guys from further out. thats not a far fetched idea at all. a good one I think.

yeah depending on the date and pay and promotion it could pull at least 40-50 - maybe much more. man how cool would that be? Super Sprints, Champ Sprints, and midgets. Thats the open wheel Extravaganza I been talkin bout for long time. Add Modifieds too. I think if promoted big time - it would fill the stands within a couple years. maybe.

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For anyone interested in full midget shows in this area, the SMRS will be at Minneapolis, KS May 3rd, 81 Spdwy in Wichita May 4, then at Creek County August 14 and South Coffeyville August 15. They're booked again at 81 Spdwy Sept 27th. The Creek County show could really be something, since it's a co-sanction deal with the Topless Tour sprints, and a lot of those guys could do double duty. The whole story of trying to get midgets going again in Oklahoma on even a semi-regular basis would make a thick book. The bottom line is you have to count on cars from Missouri and Kansas to fill a show.....there really aren't very many in Oklahoma....and to get people to tow in, you'd better have two shows in the same area to make it worth while. One track where the SMRS ran about five years ago has wanted them back, but without a Friday-Saturday weekend, you can't promise a decent field of cars, so it hasn't worked out. From an owner's point of view, it makes more sense to own a sprint car or a modified...they're cheaper and you can run more often, so you have to love midgets and be willing to throw some pretty large amounts of money at them to even think about owning one. Promoters can book modifieds or two barrels and figure on a decent back gate, so why take a chance on a midget show? You'd really have to PROMOTE the thing!

Talking about the Chili bowl in relation to midget racing in general is a waste of time. It's not a midget race....it's an EVENT that just happens to use midgets. Fact is, Emmett originally planned to run sprint cars! It may make people more aware of midgets, but probably half the cars at the Chili Bowl won't run again this year, and the majority of the people who come to the race aren't from around here. When the racing season is going full tilt, with dozens of shows for fans and racers to choose from, a high dollar midget show in Oklahoma would be a real risk for a promoter. The ones who are around here still remember the SWIMS tour years ago, with drivers like Johnny Parsons, Jr playing to mighty slim crowds. Like it or not, this is sprint car country.

We did take a couple of midgets to Brill two years ago for some testing, and even before the most recent improvements, it came off as a really great track for midgets. I hope everything works out and some midget racing does happen there.

I would like to respond to Brew. I understand that there is a larger midget organisation here in the great state of Oklahoma. SMRS is a great organisation to race with, and I do believe we should support each others programs. I am not trying to steel people away from SMRS just giving them another option. The problem as I see it, is that I myself like many other people who race midgets all have the same problem we need to work so that we can race. We have a hard time getting off work on a Friday night and then trying to drive 500 miles to a race. It just does not work. This is not only true with midgets but all forms of racing, from the sprints down to the racing Karts. We can't afford to tow all over the country side just to race. This is one of the reasons I am trying to start midget racing back in this great state.

And Yes there is a great number of cars in this state. Yes I do agree with you that having no purse except what the track is willing to pay is detrimental to the program but everyone has to start somewhere.

Well, from what i know of Mark, and racing at his track over the years, he is making big strides in the improvement of racing in the area. If he could just figure out a way of making to red clay easier to clean off our cars and not get all over everything! LOL! Seriously, if you can get a good midget count, i'd bet he'll find a way to make it worth you all's time.

I agree with Jeff, Mark Brill is Honest & Fair with the way he does things at his track and I know he will always do his best to work with the Drivers, Owners, & give the Fans the best racing he can, he has taken great strides in improving the Facilities at Brill Motorspeedway, over the last 21/2 years there has been alot done there and it get better each year this is not the Meeker of the past we have a man who is a racer and cares about this sport and he is doing a top notch job, Thank you Mark, Debbie & Crew of BMS we always appreciate what you all do for us, I am sure the Midget deal will work and hope it does...

Danny Waller Jr.
Pro/Street Stock #1J
2006-2007-2009-2010-2011-2012 6 Time BMS Pro/Street Stock 
Champion
4 Time BMS Fall Nationals Champion
2 Time BMS Spring Nationals Champion
Driver: Johnny Reed Jr.

Just to clear things up as far as I can. Cody is exactly right in his reply. When you expect people to show and run for nothing you need to think about this. Lee has never contacted me about running with the SMRS at any of our shows. He is as welcome as anyone to race with us. When you advertise a race like Meeker, it does two things. With one car showing up at Meeker it leaves the fans with the wrong impression of Midget Racing. It does nothing to convince the promoter that he has made the right decision to run Midgets. I have talked to Mark on several occasions and I am trying to get a show into Meeker. We have five shows in Oklahoma this year. We open at the Outlaw on April 25th and go to West Siloam on the 26th. In August, we are at Creek County on the 14th, South Coffeyville the 15th and Enid on the 16th. I am trying to increase the number of Midget Shows in Oklahoma at all times. If anyone wants or needs more info on the Midgets you can contact me at 918-774-0909, or email me at [email protected] I hope everyone has a great year. More later from Sallisaw Oklahoma USA

Let's not get too sour on these guys before we give them a chance. This is not the first class to run at BMS with a low car count. Those of you who have been with us from the start remember the days of the 4 and 5 car Sprint A features. But Mark gave them a chance, paid them, and low and behold just like in the movie, "if you build it they will come", we now have a great sprint show at BMS.

I hope that this will also be true of these Ford Focus Midgets. Lee seems to think it will. I say give them a chance.

In case we have not made this clear, these are FORD FOCUS MIDGETS, not true midgets (in some peoples opinion), they run a 4cyl motor, in an attempt to control the escalating cost of racing. ( a darn good idea, IMO).

As far as pay goes, I'd risk my reputation by saying that if enough cars showed up for a race, there be some pay. I'm sure Mark would do that.

First I would like to thank the announcer at BMS for the support. Truth be known the midget show on March 29th was an EXHIBITION ONLY. It was scheduled this way to only drum up some interest for the class, I did not expect alot of cars to show. Our points racing does not start till May 3rd. Unfortunally I was the only car that was ready at the time. This is the reason that only one car showed up. As for the SMRS, I have included within the OFFMS schedule all of the dates that SMRS will be racing here in Oklahoma. That way those who wish to run with SMRS can do so as well as run with us. The reason we call our selves the OKLAHOMA FORD FOCUS MIDGET SERIES is that we wish to see that midget racing becomes alive and well in this state.

Lets get this straight. You are in no way shape or form associated with the SMRS. I would appreciate it if you would immediately remove any of my races from your "schedule?" If you want to have races, get out and book them, don't try to sneak races from some one elses schedule. I would have called you but your phone is not listed. Lee, this has been tried before and it didn't work then and it won't work now. If you aren't capable of being competitive with the SMRS, this isn't my fault or my problem, it's yours. Don't try to snow people into thinking that you are the knight on the white horse. Now, to finalize, your are not associated with the SMRS and I am not associated with you. Leave it alone.

John Stewart SMRS

Consider it done.

2007 Chili Bowl

Tues Night (Rookie Night)

Jordan Noblitt takes his FORD FOCUS midget (self starting and all) to the FRONT of the "A". Not by pussy footing around the bottom but by haulin it around the cushion (what was left of it). Was leading at the white flag and down the back chute until Bubba became a household name with a killer pass off the top of turn 4. Noblitt runs 2nd in a FOCUS car.

Fast Forward 1 year.....

2008 Chili Bowl

Tues Night (Rookie Night)

Chet Gherke (?) Runs to the front of the "B" feature with no LR torsion stop, frame dragging the ground, etc. Transfers to the "A".

He then proceeds to pass every car on the track with his very tired FORD FOCUS midget (self starting and all). Uses the top, middle, bottom, whatever it takes. Got to the lead and held it for a few laps but eventually had to settle for 2nd in the "A" in a Focus car.

Moral of this story......Yes, a spec motored Focus midget is down on power to a $35,000 Esslinger, Mopar, Hawk, or Toyota. Yes, a Focus midget does not need a push truck......

AND YES, THEY ARE A REAL MIDGET!!!!!!

Anyone in attendance the last 2 rookie nights can vouch for that.

Best of luck to the OK Ford Focus Series!!!!!

Midget Racing on a mini stock budget

www.ozarkmountainmidgets.com

Dustin Arnall, President

wow. great exchange. lol....................

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I would like to restate my position, A promoter I am not. I am just someone who wishes to see midget racing in this state. I have asked Mark if he would consider having us race at his facility and he agreed. We race as a class there, just like the rest of the classes. Thank you Mark for this opportunity. Mark and Debbie as well as the rest of the officals are all wonderful people.

When I was asked to set up the OFFMS racing schedule, I only included the SMRS schedule into ours so that there would not be two midget shows scheduled on the same night. This allowed all the racers to support each other in this sport. I have since removed all SMRS scheduled shows from our schedule as requested. I will still not hold any races on those dates as a courtesy to SMRS and the midget racing as a hole. Final note; I am no knight on a white horse riding in to save the day. I just want to race and have some fun.

I will still not hold any races on those dates as a courtesy to SMRS

I think they might miss your 1 or 2 cars. lol

I think it would be great to see another class of cars in the area, namely the FFMS. But so far, I have only seen one car.

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I agree, I would love to see midgets around here. I just don't think it will ever happen.

I once saw a Midget Stripper, and your right, just don't work around here.

unless you get up off her cell number.