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October 11, 2025 at
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To nobody in particular,
We only get to enjoy racing the way we want it when we buy the track and make the rules. Until then choose the track you like with the cars you enjoy among the people you like. A few times a year it will be less than anticipated and a few times it will be better. When it's good tell us about it. When it isn't don't tell us about it. We don't really care you had a bad sprint car event. Many of us don't have a sprint car event to complain about.
My point is, life is life. Live it, adjust, find something to be thankful for, appreciate the investors and volunteers who try to entertain you.
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October 12, 2025 at
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Posted By: revjimk on October 11 2025 at 10:37:32 AM
Thanks. I didn't know about the invert draw on A-Main. That adds a BIG element of luck
The whole 200 pts. for TTs & 100 for heats makes it confusing. Seems that the 3 pt. difference in heats vs. 2 in TTs makes heats more important, but then again there are more guys qualifying than in each heat.... gotta do some calculations to figure that out. If there are 30 entries, mid pack is down 30 points. 8 in heats? Mid pack would be down 12...hmmm
I'm convinced that there is no perfect format
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There definitely isn't a perfect format. I personally think the straight up format the WoO uses is in the best spirit of racing, but because there are so many fans of inverts, this format seems to give the best of both worlds. You unload, and qualify fast, you're going to end up in the show. Also, there are inverts for all of the fans who enjoy seeing faster cars go 3 rows back and give hope for the cars starting in the first 2 rows who may not have qualified great.
The format is not at all confusing once you get used to it. We can sit in the stands and figure out the top 8 in points pretty easily. I do not like the invert draw, and never will, but it really doesn't change the fact that the top 8 cars all found a way to the top 8 in points, and all deserve the chance to start on the front row. Rarely does Knoxville Saturday night end and we go "wow, he really lucked out on that win"---because if you win Knoxville on Saturday night, you earned it. You unloaded fast, qualified fast, and ran the feature fast.
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October 13, 2025 at
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i think to make heat races more interesting make the fastest qualifier start 4th ....the winner and the fastest qualifier go to the dash.
If the fastest car wins.... then the second place car goes to the dash.. You have to admit that most heat races are over in 2 laps or less
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October 13, 2025 at
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This message was edited on
October 13, 2025 at
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Posted By: Robm20 on October 13 2025 at 10:41:54 AM
i think to make heat races more interesting make the fastest qualifier start 4th ....the winner and the fastest qualifier go to the dash.
If the fastest car wins.... then the second place car goes to the dash.. You have to admit that most heat races are over in 2 laps or less
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I just don't like that a guy can back up a row from 4th to 5th in 4 heat format or even to 6th at the many races with 3 heats and still make the dash with that format. When there are 20 plus cars so close in speed it's hard to have any format with passing and not penalizing fastest qualifiers.
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October 13, 2025 at
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Posted By: egras on October 10 2025 at 10:13:09 AM
So, if I'm reading all of the sarcasm correctly, everyone seems to be on board with:
1. Pits open at 5:00
2. Draw names from a hat at 6:00 to set feature lineups. 1-20 go to A and 21-? go to the B.
3. Run the features (on an extremely narrow track might I add)
4. Home for Matlock reruns by 7:30.
Do I have it about correct? No thanks. I'll take the complete show, qualifying, heats, dash, and features. JMO though.
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No, but there could be a better way.
Prepare the track so that it's widened out after hot laps.
No time trials.
Line the heats up by draw.
Give finish points and passing points for the heats.
No dash redraw.
No dash.
Line up features by points.
*Bonus- give the drivers who draw the front row starting spots in the heat races the option to get extra points by starting in the back.
The cliche cream will still rise to the top.
The heat races might mean something.
The dash still won't mean anything, but you would no longer have to sit throught it.
The races would end earlier, allowing the teams to sell more merch.
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