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miledirtfan
August 19, 2026 at 06:36:19 PM
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A plane flying across 1/2 the country

his car

Kyle winning the 65th Nationals

I need a long sleeve xl for the Fall

where can I find it?!

 



YRB12
August 21, 2026 at 02:14:21 PM
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I saw a few discussions on other social media debating whether it really was a double. I find it laughable that anyone would think otherwise. They made the argument that he won on two different days so it wasn't a true double. Not mentioning names, but even someone from this forum made that argument. Like I said, I found it laughable and was very surprised by the number of people who didn't. I think some people are just fed up with him winning as much as he does  and look to discredit his accomplishments in any way that they can. That was a double all day long in my book. 



Rodneyincanad
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Didn't Kinser win two in one day because one was delayed from rain and then the regular one later

 



StanM
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You can tell everyone who you're referring to.  I don't care if they know that I brought up that talking point.  I can even tell you everything people called me because of my opinion.  I conceded that yes, it was a double but it still felt like a bit of a clown show.  I remember Foyt and Rutherford racing at our state fair decades ago.  No red carpet, no dramatic arrival, they just came here and raced like any other driver in the field.

I'm pretty sure that my susceptibility to lung infections from CAR-T Cell Therapy will prevent me from going to any races anyways.  No drunks will see me and have the opportunity to cold cock me for daring to disagree.  Nobody is going to stop coming by and giving me a lift to the races and let me share their booth so I don't have to breath in dust.  They weren't doing that before I commented about Larson so there's nothing to stop.  I'm not a hater, he's the best there has ever been so far up to his mid 30's.  His Cup career will prevent the longevity in Sprints like Kinser so he won't break Steve's records.  I watch High Limit every chance I get and enjoyed last nights race.  
 

Outlaws are at Ogilvie tonight and my neighbors son Lucas Nellis 74n is running with UMSS winged.  If my life wasnt so restricted by the illness I'd be there.  Larson chooses not to race up here near the cities so I'll likely never see him live and in person.  Consequently I watch races and comment on what I watch.  I'm a little out of touch with the buzz among fans because I rarely see any other fans.  Just drop in next door and talk about the UMSS and local stuff.  You have the right to dislike me because I was turned off by so much focus on one driver who doesn't even make his living in Sprints.  


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August 21, 2026 at 06:56:54 PM
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Posted By: StanM on August 21 2026 at 05:54:52 PM

You can tell everyone who you're referring to.  I don't care if they know that I brought up that talking point.  I can even tell you everything people called me because of my opinion.  I conceded that yes, it was a double but it still felt like a bit of a clown show.  I remember Foyt and Rutherford racing at our state fair decades ago.  No red carpet, no dramatic arrival, they just came here and raced like any other driver in the field.

I'm pretty sure that my susceptibility to lung infections from CAR-T Cell Therapy will prevent me from going to any races anyways.  No drunks will see me and have the opportunity to cold cock me for daring to disagree.  Nobody is going to stop coming by and giving me a lift to the races and let me share their booth so I don't have to breath in dust.  They weren't doing that before I commented about Larson so there's nothing to stop.  I'm not a hater, he's the best there has ever been so far up to his mid 30's.  His Cup career will prevent the longevity in Sprints like Kinser so he won't break Steve's records.  I watch High Limit every chance I get and enjoyed last nights race.  
 

Outlaws are at Ogilvie tonight and my neighbors son Lucas Nellis 74n is running with UMSS winged.  If my life wasnt so restricted by the illness I'd be there.  Larson chooses not to race up here near the cities so I'll likely never see him live and in person.  Consequently I watch races and comment on what I watch.  I'm a little out of touch with the buzz among fans because I rarely see any other fans.  Just drop in next door and talk about the UMSS and local stuff.  You have the right to dislike me because I was turned off by so much focus on one driver who doesn't even make his living in Sprints.  



I believe I saw Nellis run a race at Husets last year. He had some trouble and didn't do well. How's he doing closer to home?



SVMike
August 21, 2026 at 09:55:39 PM
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This message was edited on August 21, 2026 at 09:56:26 PM by SVMike
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Posted By: StanM on August 21 2026 at 05:54:52 PM

You can tell everyone who you're referring to.  I don't care if they know that I brought up that talking point.  I can even tell you everything people called me because of my opinion.  I conceded that yes, it was a double but it still felt like a bit of a clown show.  I remember Foyt and Rutherford racing at our state fair decades ago.  No red carpet, no dramatic arrival, they just came here and raced like any other driver in the field.

I'm pretty sure that my susceptibility to lung infections from CAR-T Cell Therapy will prevent me from going to any races anyways.  No drunks will see me and have the opportunity to cold cock me for daring to disagree.  Nobody is going to stop coming by and giving me a lift to the races and let me share their booth so I don't have to breath in dust.  They weren't doing that before I commented about Larson so there's nothing to stop.  I'm not a hater, he's the best there has ever been so far up to his mid 30's.  His Cup career will prevent the longevity in Sprints like Kinser so he won't break Steve's records.  I watch High Limit every chance I get and enjoyed last nights race.  
 

Outlaws are at Ogilvie tonight and my neighbors son Lucas Nellis 74n is running with UMSS winged.  If my life wasnt so restricted by the illness I'd be there.  Larson chooses not to race up here near the cities so I'll likely never see him live and in person.  Consequently I watch races and comment on what I watch.  I'm a little out of touch with the buzz among fans because I rarely see any other fans.  Just drop in next door and talk about the UMSS and local stuff.  You have the right to dislike me because I was turned off by so much focus on one driver who doesn't even make his living in Sprints.  



I don't feel the need to always agree with your takes but I'm glad you're here with us HH Message Board knuckleheads Stan. Who the hell uses message boards anymore in the age of social media?  US! Old school, just like sprint car racing 



YRB12
August 22, 2026 at 12:57:30 AM
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Posted By: StanM on August 21 2026 at 05:54:52 PM

You can tell everyone who you're referring to.  I don't care if they know that I brought up that talking point.  I can even tell you everything people called me because of my opinion.  I conceded that yes, it was a double but it still felt like a bit of a clown show.  I remember Foyt and Rutherford racing at our state fair decades ago.  No red carpet, no dramatic arrival, they just came here and raced like any other driver in the field.

I'm pretty sure that my susceptibility to lung infections from CAR-T Cell Therapy will prevent me from going to any races anyways.  No drunks will see me and have the opportunity to cold cock me for daring to disagree.  Nobody is going to stop coming by and giving me a lift to the races and let me share their booth so I don't have to breath in dust.  They weren't doing that before I commented about Larson so there's nothing to stop.  I'm not a hater, he's the best there has ever been so far up to his mid 30's.  His Cup career will prevent the longevity in Sprints like Kinser so he won't break Steve's records.  I watch High Limit every chance I get and enjoyed last nights race.  
 

Outlaws are at Ogilvie tonight and my neighbors son Lucas Nellis 74n is running with UMSS winged.  If my life wasnt so restricted by the illness I'd be there.  Larson chooses not to race up here near the cities so I'll likely never see him live and in person.  Consequently I watch races and comment on what I watch.  I'm a little out of touch with the buzz among fans because I rarely see any other fans.  Just drop in next door and talk about the UMSS and local stuff.  You have the right to dislike me because I was turned off by so much focus on one driver who doesn't even make his living in Sprints.  



I don't have an ounce of dislike for you at all. In the end it's just racing and we're all fans. You didn't lie, exaggerate, or insult nor talk down to anyone to make me dislike you.. You actually made a fair argument and some people did agree with you. Obviously, I did not but its not a big deal. Just a difference of opinions. And I really get why people are tiring of Larson winning. I wasn't rooting for him to win again either. I was really hoping Sheldon would. Maybe next year



Shortie1
August 22, 2026 at 02:15:53 AM
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Posted By: YRB12 on August 22 2026 at 12:57:30 AM

I don't have an ounce of dislike for you at all. In the end it's just racing and we're all fans. You didn't lie, exaggerate, or insult nor talk down to anyone to make me dislike you.. You actually made a fair argument and some people did agree with you. Obviously, I did not but its not a big deal. Just a difference of opinions. And I really get why people are tiring of Larson winning. I wasn't rooting for him to win again either. I was really hoping Sheldon would. Maybe next year



Might have a double to night in Jackson What Kyle did was great for sprint car raing in general. His Wednesday night performance is the key. Kasey Haud and Kyle all drew low numbers which made a big difference both nights time trials.



StanM
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August 22, 2026 at 12:24:03 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on August 21 2026 at 06:56:54 PM

I believe I saw Nellis run a race at Husets last year. He had some trouble and didn't do well. How's he doing closer to home?



They did I believe a season in 305's then tried to mobe up to 410's.  Luke's job situation changed so they decided to get an LS and race locally with UMSS.  They have a 410 but had some issues with that or they'd have run WoO at Cedat and Ogilvie but High Limit midweek I'm not sure.  I'm just the guy next door who drops in sometimes when they're working on the car and watches their hauler come and go all summer and not an official spokesman.  People see the Ford logo and ask if they have a Ford, the answer is no.  It's a Ford dealer a few whistle stops north of us up I35.  Unless a team has big bucks they can't touch a Ford 410 and I'm unsure of future plans.  

 


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Posted By: YRB12 on August 22 2026 at 12:57:30 AM

I don't have an ounce of dislike for you at all. In the end it's just racing and we're all fans. You didn't lie, exaggerate, or insult nor talk down to anyone to make me dislike you.. You actually made a fair argument and some people did agree with you. Obviously, I did not but its not a big deal. Just a difference of opinions. And I really get why people are tiring of Larson winning. I wasn't rooting for him to win again either. I was really hoping Sheldon would. Maybe next year



No worries.  I was getting beat up pretty bad in a couple Facebook groups and had a chip on my shoulder when I dropped in here.   People these days don't want to discuss the pros and cons of a situation.  They come right out of the gate with the name calling and profanity and I get in over my head trying to defend myself from the onslaught.  I'm not going anywhere unless my number comes up and the lights go out.  I lashed out when I saw something that obviously referred to me.  People don't want a discussion, they want everyone on the internet to agree with them and if we don't they pile on. 


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August 24, 2026 at 11:57:56 AM
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Jan Opperman won 2 races in the same day in 2 different sprint cars at 2 different tracks in 1974.



egras
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Posted By: StanM on August 21 2026 at 05:54:52 PM

You can tell everyone who you're referring to.  I don't care if they know that I brought up that talking point.  I can even tell you everything people called me because of my opinion.  I conceded that yes, it was a double but it still felt like a bit of a clown show.  I remember Foyt and Rutherford racing at our state fair decades ago.  No red carpet, no dramatic arrival, they just came here and raced like any other driver in the field.

I'm pretty sure that my susceptibility to lung infections from CAR-T Cell Therapy will prevent me from going to any races anyways.  No drunks will see me and have the opportunity to cold cock me for daring to disagree.  Nobody is going to stop coming by and giving me a lift to the races and let me share their booth so I don't have to breath in dust.  They weren't doing that before I commented about Larson so there's nothing to stop.  I'm not a hater, he's the best there has ever been so far up to his mid 30's.  His Cup career will prevent the longevity in Sprints like Kinser so he won't break Steve's records.  I watch High Limit every chance I get and enjoyed last nights race.  
 

Outlaws are at Ogilvie tonight and my neighbors son Lucas Nellis 74n is running with UMSS winged.  If my life wasnt so restricted by the illness I'd be there.  Larson chooses not to race up here near the cities so I'll likely never see him live and in person.  Consequently I watch races and comment on what I watch.  I'm a little out of touch with the buzz among fans because I rarely see any other fans.  Just drop in next door and talk about the UMSS and local stuff.  You have the right to dislike me because I was turned off by so much focus on one driver who doesn't even make his living in Sprints.  



You don't think it would have been a clown show if Foyt and Rutherford did it in an era of social media and cameras at every corner?  Also, if you remember it happening that long ago, I'm sure the hype and chatter was very much there.  



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Posted By: fumanchu on August 24 2026 at 11:57:56 AM

Jan Opperman won 2 races in the same day in 2 different sprint cars at 2 different tracks in 1974.



Kevin Gobrecht won at Port Royal Sat afternoon Lincoln that night and the Grove Sun afternoon in 1999 in the Zemco 1.



longtimefan
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Posted By: StanM on August 22 2026 at 12:47:15 PM

No worries.  I was getting beat up pretty bad in a couple Facebook groups and had a chip on my shoulder when I dropped in here.   People these days don't want to discuss the pros and cons of a situation.  They come right out of the gate with the name calling and profanity and I get in over my head trying to defend myself from the onslaught.  I'm not going anywhere unless my number comes up and the lights go out.  I lashed out when I saw something that obviously referred to me.  People don't want a discussion, they want everyone on the internet to agree with them and if we don't they pile on. 



The problem is that very people today understand that an opinion is neither right or wrong. Everybody just thinks that any opinion that differs from their's is wrong.



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Posted By: egras on August 24 2026 at 01:37:38 PM

You don't think it would have been a clown show if Foyt and Rutherford did it in an era of social media and cameras at every corner?  Also, if you remember it happening that long ago, I'm sure the hype and chatter was very much there.  



Exactly.  We've seen Foyt with a microphone in his face right after wrecks or car failures and it wasn't PC all the time.  Can you imagine that in today's world of social media everywhere?  Like everything else, racers have had to adapt to temper their emotions to speak with the media and clean it up.  Just a different world today and it has removed some of the colorful personalities from our sport (or at least muzzled them).



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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on August 24 2026 at 02:59:00 PM

Kevin Gobrecht won at Port Royal Sat afternoon Lincoln that night and the Grove Sun afternoon in 1999 in the Zemco 1.



As a very young teenager I watched the late great Lynn Paxton win the labor classic at Port Royal and than head 35 miles east on route 35 to watch Mr. Paxton win at Selinsgrove that same night in the Boops Aluminum number 1!

my childhood sprintcar hero!

About 35 years later at the memorial service of his former crew chief Ree Smith I got to sit with him and thank him for letting us kids join him in victory lane all those years ago for photos.  He will always be one of the greatest ambassadors for sprintcar racing for me he was the greatest!



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Posted By: rolldog on August 25 2026 at 01:11:31 PM

Exactly.  We've seen Foyt with a microphone in his face right after wrecks or car failures and it wasn't PC all the time.  Can you imagine that in today's world of social media everywhere?  Like everything else, racers have had to adapt to temper their emotions to speak with the media and clean it up.  Just a different world today and it has removed some of the colorful personalities from our sport (or at least muzzled them).



Yes sir!  



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As a very young teenager I watched the late great Lynn Paxton win the labor classic at Port Royal and than head 35 miles east on route 35 to watch Mr. Paxton win at Selinsgrove that same night in the Boops Aluminum number 1!

my childhood sprintcar hero!

About 35 years later at the memorial service of his former crew chief Ree Smith I got to sit with him and thank him for letting us kids join him in victory lane all those years ago for photos.  He will always be one of the greatest ambassadors for sprintcar racing for me he was the greatest!



I forgot about that day I was at the Port but didn't go to selinsgrove. Paxton in the Boops Aluminum car was the best team in the best era era in central Pa IMO of course. The two tracks did that for many years and I cannot recall anyone else winning both except Paxton. Lynn was a friend of my dad and sold some antique car parts for my dad great man.



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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on August 24 2026 at 02:59:00 PM

Kevin Gobrecht won at Port Royal Sat afternoon Lincoln that night and the Grove Sun afternoon in 1999 in the Zemco 1.



what a difference from the apple turnover days .Me and Walt pulled the unplanned early season double forget the year ,Lincoln sat  afternoon then Selinsgrove I think .  The fuzz had Chris Eash pulled over on route 15 north going by  we were laughing he's gonna be late and I'm sure alcohol played a part in the decision 



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Posted By: baltimore on August 26 2026 at 08:20:16 AM

what a difference from the apple turnover days .Me and Walt pulled the unplanned early season double forget the year ,Lincoln sat  afternoon then Selinsgrove I think .  The fuzz had Chris Eash pulled over on route 15 north going by  we were laughing he's gonna be late and I'm sure alcohol played a part in the decision 



The G man will always be the biggest what if in central Pa he was going to have a HoF career. I'll never the forget the phone call I got the morning after.



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