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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: mini29 on August 15 2015 at 10:33:34 PM
So does a driver that has hurt his motor, starts and takes a lap, full well knowing he isn't going to 'race' in the main, but earned his starting spot and the money that goes with it, does he get the same s*** that you all are dishing out? I did this several times when I was racing for points, knowing that if I skipped the main I wasn't going to finish in the top ten and get any points money at the end of the season. Just sayin'
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Not from me. There is a difference. In that example you gave its not because you didn't want to race, but you couldn't. Hurting your equipment and packing it in is totally a different deal then going into an event knowing from the get go you aren't going to race the feature. Totally different deal.
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What do we have here a bunch of socialists? He EARNED the spot. The other guys didn't. He has the right to do with it what he wants. So if I earn $1000 by doing some work for someone and I decide that I want to take it to the casino and gamble with it instead of giving it to someone who needs groceries because they're short on cash, am I obligated to do so? The answer is no. I'm not gonna argue morals but the fact is, in this country, if you earn something, you have the right to do whatever you damned well please with it as long as its within the law. Knoxville Raceway obviously has no rule against it, so tough shit. Besides, for those wanting Knoxville to do something about it. Be careful what you wish for. So lets say a low buck guy makes the show but also hurt his motor and can't race, does he have to give his spot to someone who does intend to race the distance? Fact is, Rico Earned that spot by beating the asses of the best drivers from all over the country so that start money is his. He EARNED it. End of story.
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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: mini29 on August 15 2015 at 10:33:34 PM
So does a driver that has hurt his motor, starts and takes a lap, full well knowing he isn't going to 'race' in the main, but earned his starting spot and the money that goes with it, does he get the same s*** that you all are dishing out? I did this several times when I was racing for points, knowing that if I skipped the main I wasn't going to finish in the top ten and get any points money at the end of the season. Just sayin'
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There is a world of difference when you say A DRIVER that hurt his motor. Nothing wrong with that. Now change that to a driver puts his crewman in the car and goes off to greener pastures. There is plenty wrong with that.
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August 16, 2015 at
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I wonder if Rico had a clause in his NASCAR contract stating he could race at Knoxville Saturday if he had a starting spot on the pole or in the first two rows.
How was the situation handled way back when when Sammy had the pole for the A-Main but quit his ride in the Fed Ex car before the race? I forget. It was a different situation than Rico's in that I doubt Sammy was planning on leaving the car before the week was over while Rico knew he wouldn't be in the race even if he qualified for it.
Not saying what Rico did was right or wrong but it does appear to me to "cheapen" the Nationals and that alone will get a lot of people fired up that are passionate about the sprinters and the biggest race of the year. Many dirt fans are tired of their sport being, in their minds, treated like a step-child.
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August 16, 2015 at
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Posted By: saphead on August 15 2015 at 09:05:20 PM
I'd choose the 3rd briefcase which contains a little respect for sprint car racing and it's crown jewel event.
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This right here is the main reason why most of us are upset the complete lack of respect...they should have dq'ed themselves. Out of Respect for the KNOXVILLE NATIONALS not the Drivers, Fans, or anyone else.
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August 16, 2015 at
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Hats off, He ran 2nd...
NKNPS East Motordrome 8/15/15 Results
Race: NKNPS East Motordome 8/15/15
| Fin | Str | Car | Driver | Team | Laps | Points | B/Points | Status |
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| 1 |
7 |
44 |
Dillon Bassett * |
Bassett Gutters Ford |
150 |
47 |
4 |
Running |
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5 |
98 |
Rico Abreu * |
AccuDoc/Go-Pro Mtrplx/Curb Records Chevrolet |
150 |
42 |
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Running |
| 3 |
8 |
22 |
Austin Hill |
A&D Welding/Don Rich Ford |
150 |
42 |
1 |
Running |
| 4 |
2 |
34 |
Scott Heckert |
Project Lifesaver Chevrolet |
150 |
40 |
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Running |
| 5 |
6 |
5 |
J.J. Haley * |
Braun Auto Chevrolet |
150 |
39 |
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Running |
| 6 |
16 |
4 |
Kenzie Ruston |
L&M Ethanol Toyota |
150 |
38 |
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Running |
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3 |
3 |
Kaz Grala |
Kiklos Toyota |
150 |
37 |
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Running |
| 8 |
1 |
9 |
William Byron * |
Liberty University Chevrolet |
150 |
38 |
2 |
Running |
| 9 |
14 |
7 |
Codie Rohrbaugh * |
Grant County Mulch Chevrolet |
150 |
35 |
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Running |
| 10 |
10 |
42 |
Sergio Pena |
Special Smiles Pediatric Dentistry Toyota |
150 |
34 |
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Running |
| 11 |
4 |
51 |
Dalton Sargeant * |
Galt Chevrolet |
150 |
34 |
1 |
Running |
| 12 |
19 |
23 |
J.P. Morgan * |
www.soldbyjackiemorgan.com Chevrolet |
149 |
32 |
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Running |
| 13 |
11 |
6 |
Devon Amos * |
Max Siegel, Inc. Toyota |
149 |
31 |
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Running |
| 14 |
13 |
15 |
Nick Drake |
NAPA Auto Parts Toyota |
149 |
30 |
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Running |
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17 |
8 |
Tyler Hughes * |
G2 Inc. Ford |
149 |
29 |
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Running |
| 16 |
12 |
27 |
Kyle Benjamin * |
Eibach Springs Ford |
149 |
28 |
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Running |
| 17 |
15 |
2 |
Collin Cabre * |
UTI/NTI Toyota |
149 |
27 |
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Running |
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20 |
9 |
Christian Celaya * |
Clinica La Familia Chevrolet |
147 |
26 |
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Running |
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9 |
4 |
Ronnie Bassett, Jr. |
Bassett Gutters Ford |
94 |
25 |
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Ignition |
| 20 |
21 |
94 |
Dylan Hoffman * |
Killman Const./C Neer RV/Perfect Profes. Painters |
88 |
24 |
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Handling |
| 21 |
18 |
31 |
David Garbo, Jr. * |
Whelen Engineering Chevrolet |
79 |
23 |
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RACE STATISTICS
Fastest Qualifier: William Byron *, Time: 18.048 Seconds, Speed: 99.734 mph
Time of Race: 1 hrs., 5 mins, 48 secs Average Speed: 68.389 mph Margin of Victory: 3.357 Seconds
Caution Flags: Laps 19-22 (#94 Spin on Frontstretch - No FP); 27-30 (#42 Spin on Backstretch - FP #94); 33-35 (#94 & #7 Spin in Turn 4 - No FP); 46-48 (#94 Spin in Turn 1 - No FP); 101-120 (Debris on Frontstretch). 5 for 34 laps.
Lap Leaders: William Byron * 1-30, Dalton Sargeant * 31, William Byron * 32-93, Dillon Bassett * 94-121, Austin Hill 122-124, Dillon Bassett * 125-150.
Total Laps Led: William Byron * 92, Dillon Bassett * 54, Austin Hill 3, Dalton Sargeant * 1. 5 changes involving 4 drivers.
Top 10 Driver Points: William Byron * 437, Scott Heckert 425, Austin Hill 409, Dalton Sargeant * 396, Rico Abreu * 389, J.J. Haley * 381, Kyle Benjamin * 380, Kaz Grala 380, Nick Drake 371, Kenzie Ruston 325
Next Race:Virginia International Raceway
* Sunoco Rookie of the Year contender
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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August 16, 2015 at
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Posted By: kossuth on August 15 2015 at 10:43:45 PM
Not from me. There is a difference. In that example you gave its not because you didn't want to race, but you couldn't. Hurting your equipment and packing it in is totally a different deal then going into an event knowing from the get go you aren't going to race the feature. Totally different deal.
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It just amazes me that all the naysayers about Rico's situation do not have a penny invested in it other than to attend or watch the event. Did everyone know that it may rain in Pa. & not Knoxville or vice versa? He raced & earned his way into the event as all others did & or tried to do. Too make blowhards happy about the situation Rico decides to donate the $$$ to an injured friend. Sure all competitors that attempt the Nationals would love to make the A main, but u must earn it. Rico earned it so tough shit to any whiners who couldn't & feel they were cheated.
The MAN did nothing wrong, he cheated no one, he raced hard & earned his starting $$$. if $10 grand is that important to any team to make or break their season, maybe they should have stayed at their local track!!!
JMHO
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August 16, 2015 at
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If Rico knew before hand that he had no intentions on racing Saturdat night then why in the hell did he bother to race at all?
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Posted By: saphead on August 15 2015 at 06:49:36 PM
This is reason #891 why the pipeline to nascar can't dry up soon enough. The strip-mining of sprint car racing continues.
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And NASCAR is boring as hell.
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Posted By: fiXXXer on August 15 2015 at 10:57:01 PM
What do we have here a bunch of socialists? He EARNED the spot. The other guys didn't. He has the right to do with it what he wants. So if I earn $1000 by doing some work for someone and I decide that I want to take it to the casino and gamble with it instead of giving it to someone who needs groceries because they're short on cash, am I obligated to do so? The answer is no. I'm not gonna argue morals but the fact is, in this country, if you earn something, you have the right to do whatever you damned well please with it as long as its within the law. Knoxville Raceway obviously has no rule against it, so tough shit. Besides, for those wanting Knoxville to do something about it. Be careful what you wish for. So lets say a low buck guy makes the show but also hurt his motor and can't race, does he have to give his spot to someone who does intend to race the distance? Fact is, Rico Earned that spot by beating the asses of the best drivers from all over the country so that start money is his. He EARNED it. End of story.
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The driver who broke his motor did not know he would blow up. Rico new he was not going to be able to race on sat.
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August 16, 2015 at
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Posted By: straight shooter on August 16 2015 at 10:11:28 AM
It just amazes me that all the naysayers about Rico's situation do not have a penny invested in it other than to attend or watch the event. Did everyone know that it may rain in Pa. & not Knoxville or vice versa? He raced & earned his way into the event as all others did & or tried to do. Too make blowhards happy about the situation Rico decides to donate the $$$ to an injured friend. Sure all competitors that attempt the Nationals would love to make the A main, but u must earn it. Rico earned it so tough shit to any whiners who couldn't & feel they were cheated.
The MAN did nothing wrong, he cheated no one, he raced hard & earned his starting $$$. if $10 grand is that important to any team to make or break their season, maybe they should have stayed at their local track!!!
JMHO
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Why call people names?
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August 16, 2015 at
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I haven't posted here in years. I Just couldn't help myself on this one.
All you idiots that are ripping on Rico about keeping the Nationals pure and sacred? Did all you bitch, whine and complian when they added laps, made changes to the Friday night show and other changes to the format over the years? Rico is one of the people that greatly contributes to the sport. You people amaze me with your ignorance.
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Posted By: Methanol on August 16 2015 at 12:26:27 PM
I haven't posted here in years. I Just couldn't help myself on this one.
All you idiots that are ripping on Rico about keeping the Nationals pure and sacred? Did all you bitch, whine and complian when they added laps, made changes to the Friday night show and other changes to the format over the years? Rico is one of the people that greatly contributes to the sport. You people amaze me with your ignorance.
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Thanks Methanol, you hit it out of the park, Rico is a class act, it is a shame for him to be blasted by people saying they are race fans, I wish Rico the best, he is living the dream.
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Posted By: sadiesue on August 16 2015 at 12:14:19 PM
The driver who broke his motor did not know he would blow up. Rico new he was not going to be able to race on sat.
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I'm not going to argue morals because everyone has different ones and usually when dealing with morality, there is no right or wrong. It's all in who you are and what you believe. The fact is, he earned the spot therefore he can do whatever he wants with it. He went through the same process as the other 90 or so cars that didn't make the cut. The fact that he donated the money to Kevin Swindell should be enough to make us all happy because that was a classy move that transcends racing. It takes a really good guy to do something like that.
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Posted By: straight shooter on August 16 2015 at 10:11:28 AM
It just amazes me that all the naysayers about Rico's situation do not have a penny invested in it other than to attend or watch the event. Did everyone know that it may rain in Pa. & not Knoxville or vice versa? He raced & earned his way into the event as all others did & or tried to do. Too make blowhards happy about the situation Rico decides to donate the $$$ to an injured friend. Sure all competitors that attempt the Nationals would love to make the A main, but u must earn it. Rico earned it so tough shit to any whiners who couldn't & feel they were cheated.
The MAN did nothing wrong, he cheated no one, he raced hard & earned his starting $$$. if $10 grand is that important to any team to make or break their season, maybe they should have stayed at their local track!!!
JMHO
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Have nothing invested???? Lets think about this for a second.
1. THE FANS ARE THE ONES THAT PAY THE ENTRANCE FEE TO KEEP THE TRACKS OPERATING.
2. THE FANS THAT ATTEND THE RACES GIVE THE SPONSORS REASONS TO SPONSOR RACES FOR FOR THE TRACK AND FUND THE POINT FUNDS FOR THE TRACK.
3. THE FANS THAT ATTEND THE RACES GIVE THE SPONSORS REASONS TO SPONSOR XYZ RACECAR/DRIVER.
Nothing in racing works unless there are fans to support it. There is about 1/2 of us that are pissed about the whole deal and rightly so. It's our money (albet a small fraction) too.
In my opinion he did everything wrong because he in essence LIED to everybody about it and that's how I feel about the situation. If you don't like my opinion tough shit....
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So much whiney butt hurt. This isnt the first time someone started and parked at the nationals. I seem to recall I believe it was Gary Wright doing just that. If this makes you not a fan of Rico he didnt need you anyways.
Cheers!
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Posted By: kossuth on August 16 2015 at 03:42:39 PM
Have nothing invested???? Lets think about this for a second.
1. THE FANS ARE THE ONES THAT PAY THE ENTRANCE FEE TO KEEP THE TRACKS OPERATING.
2. THE FANS THAT ATTEND THE RACES GIVE THE SPONSORS REASONS TO SPONSOR RACES FOR FOR THE TRACK AND FUND THE POINT FUNDS FOR THE TRACK.
3. THE FANS THAT ATTEND THE RACES GIVE THE SPONSORS REASONS TO SPONSOR XYZ RACECAR/DRIVER.
Nothing in racing works unless there are fans to support it. There is about 1/2 of us that are pissed about the whole deal and rightly so. It's our money (albet a small fraction) too.
In my opinion he did everything wrong because he in essence LIED to everybody about it and that's how I feel about the situation. If you don't like my opinion tough shit....
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Really who did he lie to ?
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i still maintain, he raced his way in, the car stays in. matters not who the shoe is...
this is a racing deal, not an emotional one...
Ascot was the greatest of all time..
West Capital wasn't half bad either..
Life is good...
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Rico earned the spot in the A main,not the other driver.A race as big as the Nationals should be about the driver,not the car.The guy that got in for the A main earned nothing,it shouldn't have been allowed.I don't blame Rico,I think he's a great young driver,and apparently didn't do anything wrong or against the rules,evidently the rule needs changed.
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Posted By: kossuth on August 16 2015 at 03:42:39 PM
Have nothing invested???? Lets think about this for a second.
1. THE FANS ARE THE ONES THAT PAY THE ENTRANCE FEE TO KEEP THE TRACKS OPERATING.
2. THE FANS THAT ATTEND THE RACES GIVE THE SPONSORS REASONS TO SPONSOR RACES FOR FOR THE TRACK AND FUND THE POINT FUNDS FOR THE TRACK.
3. THE FANS THAT ATTEND THE RACES GIVE THE SPONSORS REASONS TO SPONSOR XYZ RACECAR/DRIVER.
Nothing in racing works unless there are fans to support it. There is about 1/2 of us that are pissed about the whole deal and rightly so. It's our money (albet a small fraction) too.
In my opinion he did everything wrong because he in essence LIED to everybody about it and that's how I feel about the situation. If you don't like my opinion tough shit....
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Give it rest. You dont have shit invested in racing, especially compared to race teams. I hope I never have to encounter you at a race. I loathe being around ignorant whiners.
Cheers!
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