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revjimk
December 08, 2023 at 11:01:59 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on December 07 2023 at 06:04:17 PM

Sammy running a 410 again and being successful isn't going to happen.  He is way past his prime.



You're probably right, but I'd pay to find out

A few years ago I saw Steve Kinser's last race, upstate NY Allstars

Sammy won!

I'm guessing they both got appearance $$$

He'd bring butts to seats, dontcha think?



Parnelli1970
December 08, 2023 at 11:36:07 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on December 08 2023 at 11:01:59 AM

You're probably right, but I'd pay to find out

A few years ago I saw Steve Kinser's last race, upstate NY Allstars

Sammy won!

I'm guessing they both got appearance $$$

He'd bring butts to seats, dontcha think?



He definitely would. Anytime I get an opportunity to still see one of the greatest of all time is fantastic whether he's past his prime or not.



Parnelli1970
December 08, 2023 at 11:40:03 AM
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Posted By: north star on December 08 2023 at 10:53:23 AM

what a weird to say that... the value that comes with just the name of schatz is extremely significant. is he the top driver in the nation? I would say probably not but he is still certainly a top five driver even at this point of his career. From a drawing aspect, outside of say maybe kyle larson, I would say he still draws more fans than the rest of either side including sweet. However, that's just my opinion.



Weird and unnecessary. And if Donny has a good season next year the guy waving pom poms for two national series' will be the first to point out he's doing it against lesser competition.




PorschePeteTx
December 08, 2023 at 11:56:03 AM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on December 08 2023 at 11:40:03 AM

Weird and unnecessary. And if Donny has a good season next year the guy waving pom poms for two national series' will be the first to point out he's doing it against lesser competition.



Lesser meaning just no Sweet?   Rico never ran an Outlaw schedule.  And none of the rest of the HL announcements have been top 5 players.  Now if Macedo jumps that would take a big bite out of the Outlaws.

Wonder how much signing bonus $$$ are being tossed around behind the scenes?

 



Parnelli1970
December 08, 2023 at 12:05:12 PM
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Posted By: PorschePeteTx on December 08 2023 at 11:56:03 AM

Lesser meaning just no Sweet?   Rico never ran an Outlaw schedule.  And none of the rest of the HL announcements have been top 5 players.  Now if Macedo jumps that would take a big bite out of the Outlaws.

Wonder how much signing bonus $$$ are being tossed around behind the scenes?

 



I have no doubt something is in play here to counteract the Platinum incentives to jump over.



Murphy
December 08, 2023 at 12:32:30 PM
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Posted By: saphead on December 08 2023 at 09:33:06 AM

Schatz stays with the WoO for 2024. 

https://twitter.com/WorldofOutlaws/status/1733147237838967189



l was kinda hoping he'd go late model racing- just to stir things up a bit. wink




bgtexpress
December 08, 2023 at 01:53:35 PM
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Posted By: PorschePeteTx on December 08 2023 at 11:56:03 AM

Lesser meaning just no Sweet?   Rico never ran an Outlaw schedule.  And none of the rest of the HL announcements have been top 5 players.  Now if Macedo jumps that would take a big bite out of the Outlaws.

Wonder how much signing bonus $$$ are being tossed around behind the scenes?

 



Spot on...without Rico, High Limits has only Larson and Sweet as drawing cards. Rico was the key as far as star power. I am sure he was assured a "sweet deal" to sign on for the full season. This is a cut throat war between Flo and Dirtvision, no matter which series you want to see succeed. 



fumanchu
December 08, 2023 at 04:00:40 PM
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Don't forget that HL drivers can race around when ever there not running HL.

So you will see these guys at some WOO shows just like Rico and Peck ect were doing last year.

It will be really exciting when they do run WOO and take the money from the WOO guys haha

 



Parnelli1970
December 08, 2023 at 04:14:52 PM
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Posted By: PorschePeteTx on December 08 2023 at 11:56:03 AM

Lesser meaning just no Sweet?   Rico never ran an Outlaw schedule.  And none of the rest of the HL announcements have been top 5 players.  Now if Macedo jumps that would take a big bite out of the Outlaws.

Wonder how much signing bonus $$$ are being tossed around behind the scenes?

 



Everything isn't played out yet but they just got Day and I honestly don't believe it's lesser competition but I bet the Donny haters will.




alum.427
December 08, 2023 at 04:25:44 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on November 29 2023 at 11:12:57 AM

I think Port has a lot to lose if their playing chicken because if this thing doesn't take off what are they left with? The Woo isn't in any hurry to get Lernerville back.



The high limit show at lernerville was well attended, lernerville is the ones in no hurry,  if they keep drawing the cars and fans you won't see the outlaws there any time soon.



Parnelli1970
December 08, 2023 at 04:36:30 PM
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Posted By: alum.427 on December 08 2023 at 04:25:44 PM

The high limit show at lernerville was well attended, lernerville is the ones in no hurry,  if they keep drawing the cars and fans you won't see the outlaws there any time soon.



Agreed but remember it was a few years that the Don Martin race was All Star sanctioned and the crowds weren't close to the Woo crowds. The momentum seems to be on the Hi Limit side right now but if this doesn't work out and it dies like the other attempts what's lernerville have then.



PorschePeteTx
December 08, 2023 at 07:07:15 PM
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Posted By: fumanchu on December 08 2023 at 04:00:40 PM

Don't forget that HL drivers can race around when ever there not running HL.

So you will see these guys at some WOO shows just like Rico and Peck ect were doing last year.

It will be really exciting when they do run WOO and take the money from the WOO guys haha

 



Can we assume it will be a cold day in hell before Sweet runs a WoO show other than the Nationals or Eldora?




BStrawser26
December 08, 2023 at 08:07:43 PM
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Posted By: PorschePeteTx on December 08 2023 at 11:56:03 AM

Lesser meaning just no Sweet?   Rico never ran an Outlaw schedule.  And none of the rest of the HL announcements have been top 5 players.  Now if Macedo jumps that would take a big bite out of the Outlaws.

Wonder how much signing bonus $$$ are being tossed around behind the scenes?

 



No, but Rico has someone Schatz needs to be successful.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BStrawser26
December 09, 2023 at 04:55:15 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on December 08 2023 at 11:36:07 AM

He definitely would. Anytime I get an opportunity to still see one of the greatest of all time is fantastic whether he's past his prime or not.



Stave is the King!  Sammy is not just past his prime he is starting to get too old for a 360.  How did he do at Knoxville last year?


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Parnelli1970
December 09, 2023 at 05:13:41 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on December 09 2023 at 04:55:15 PM

Stave is the King!  Sammy is not just past his prime he is starting to get too old for a 360.  How did he do at Knoxville last year?



Maybe I just appreciate to still be able to see ONE of the greatest of all time I didn't say he was the greatest. He did get a 360 feature I believe so he's still competive. Why run him down if he's still doing what he loves?




BStrawser26
December 09, 2023 at 05:25:02 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on December 09 2023 at 05:13:41 PM

Maybe I just appreciate to still be able to see ONE of the greatest of all time I didn't say he was the greatest. He did get a 360 feature I believe so he's still competive. Why run him down if he's still doing what he loves?



Not running him down....just being realistic.

Kevin wouldn't even let his dad run his car the last few years.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

HoldenCaulfield
December 09, 2023 at 07:19:58 PM
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Posted By: fumanchu on December 08 2023 at 04:00:40 PM

Don't forget that HL drivers can race around when ever there not running HL.

So you will see these guys at some WOO shows just like Rico and Peck ect were doing last year.

It will be really exciting when they do run WOO and take the money from the WOO guys haha

 



That's a BIG point! Less races - all of which are high paying, plus they can run wherever they want on their off days. As a fan I'd rather see that than paying more money in ticket prices so the club can pay their platinum members big money just for showing up. 


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HoldenCaulfield
December 09, 2023 at 07:25:31 PM
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Posted By: winged thunder on November 29 2023 at 11:03:32 AM

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm super pissed the Outlaws aren't coming to Port in 2024.  It seems they put all their eggs in the High Limit  basket, and I think that was a bad choice.



Not really. The high limit roster is shaping up to be just as good, if not better than the WOO. The place was pretty empty for last years October dates. It was packed for the first couple years but then the novelty wore off. October racing in PA is a tough draw. Sure it would be great to have both but WOO wants to play hardball.

 


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NWFAN
December 10, 2023 at 10:01:36 AM
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Posted By: winged thunder on November 29 2023 at 11:03:32 AM

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm super pissed the Outlaws aren't coming to Port in 2024.  It seems they put all their eggs in the High Limit  basket, and I think that was a bad choice.



FLO I believe has everything to do with it i am thinking...


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

steelcityguy
December 10, 2023 at 03:23:26 PM
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Posted By: winged thunder on November 29 2023 at 11:03:32 AM

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm super pissed the Outlaws aren't coming to Port in 2024.  It seems they put all their eggs in the High Limit  basket, and I think that was a bad choice.



Me too wingedstrawser.  How the heck am i gonna get my Noah Gass, Bill Rose and Landon Crawley fix, lol 





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