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BStrawser26
February 18, 2023 at 08:58:14 PM
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Posted By: brewer1s on February 18 2023 at 08:07:13 PM

Hahah yeah they are racing weather for next week has been bouncing all over the place so their 75 degree day they are advertising could be wishful thinking after a 40 degree day and maybe a half inch of rain!   



Best track in central Pa.  Time will tell if they get it in or not.  I for one sure hope they do....since next weekend is to be raining.


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brewer1s
February 18, 2023 at 11:09:32 PM
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Thats your opinion on the best racetrack in Pa and it may be snowing next weekend  



beezr2002
February 19, 2023 at 08:31:48 AM
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Posted By: j20s on February 18 2023 at 06:51:07 PM

Genius Gobrecht and his parade of 100 clown ("Legends"wink cars are a real reason why people stopped going to Lincoln. 



True for me, I won't go there when legend cars are there. Keep that junk at susky.

 




beezr2002
February 19, 2023 at 08:33:03 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 18 2023 at 05:40:12 PM

Lincoln racing Thursday 2.23.23!  YAHOO...no wonder they are the best track in central Pa!



You won't be there anyway.



racingmoose
February 19, 2023 at 09:23:59 AM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on February 19 2023 at 08:33:03 AM

You won't be there anyway.



He'll probably be waiting for the first race at Port Royal



Murphy
February 19, 2023 at 11:50:14 AM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on February 19 2023 at 08:31:48 AM

True for me, I won't go there when legend cars are there. Keep that junk at susky.

 



      We don't have Legends cars on the upper plains. Our plague is B-mods. Every couple years, mini-sprints, micro-sprints, or whatever pop up again for a few years. I presume the Legends races resemble those races- too small for the track they are racing on. By the end of the first lap, 95% of the finishing order is already in place. Would little cars with motorcycle engines be more entertaining if they were on a smaller track, like a 1/8th mile or something?  Some years back, I watched some videos of little 600cc(?) sorta sprints from some little PA track- Linda's, an airport, Trailways(?) Anyway, there was a lot of racing action. Sometimes, they'd go almost 2 or 3 laps before a couple of them got upside down. 




BStrawser26
February 19, 2023 at 12:49:16 PM
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This message was edited on February 19, 2023 at 12:52:14 PM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: brewer1s on February 18 2023 at 11:09:32 PM

Thats your opinion on the best racetrack in Pa and it may be snowing next weekend  



Look at the stats.  Lincoln is the best track in Central PA.  Thanks for changing your opening date to Thursday 2.23.23 instead of the weekend when it is to be raining/snowing.  They are simply the BEST!


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BStrawser26
February 19, 2023 at 12:50:36 PM
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This message was edited on February 19, 2023 at 12:51:09 PM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: racingmoose on February 19 2023 at 09:23:59 AM

He'll probably be waiting for the first race at Port Royal



I will gaurentee you.....I will NEVER go to Port as long as Razor Steve is in charge of the track surface.


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Parnelli98
February 19, 2023 at 01:38:06 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 19 2023 at 12:50:36 PM

I will gaurentee you.....I will NEVER go to Port as long as Razor Steve is in charge of the track surface.



Promise?




brewer1s
February 19, 2023 at 03:17:00 PM
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I look at your stats all the time on here and your opinion is clear although it has never been and will never be my favorite track and it is great that they are running on Thursday night 



beezr2002
February 19, 2023 at 04:17:22 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on February 19 2023 at 11:50:14 AM

      We don't have Legends cars on the upper plains. Our plague is B-mods. Every couple years, mini-sprints, micro-sprints, or whatever pop up again for a few years. I presume the Legends races resemble those races- too small for the track they are racing on. By the end of the first lap, 95% of the finishing order is already in place. Would little cars with motorcycle engines be more entertaining if they were on a smaller track, like a 1/8th mile or something?  Some years back, I watched some videos of little 600cc(?) sorta sprints from some little PA track- Linda's, an airport, Trailways(?) Anyway, there was a lot of racing action. Sometimes, they'd go almost 2 or 3 laps before a couple of them got upside down. 



I am a bit harsh on the legend cars. I wouldn't mind them so much but they bring 50-70 cars and makes Lincoln's long nights even longer. Lincoln is a big wide track for them and they still crash Maybe they could run them enduro style at the end of the night. Yes, micro sprint racing is turning into a no holds barred contact sport all across the country.



HoldenCaulfield
February 19, 2023 at 08:49:52 PM
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Legends look like a division which would be fun and affordable to participate but not so much fun for the fans to watch. On a 1/4 mile they would probably be OK. I don't remember them ever having 70 but usually 40-50 which is still too many. I understand that Lincoln is eager to get started and Thursday looks much better for wether than the weekend but Thursdays are pretty difficult for teams and fans, most of whom have to work early in the morning. I'll catch the replay on flo I guess. With the cost of racing and the already long and ever growing schedule, I've never really understood the need to start in winter.


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BStrawser26
February 20, 2023 at 11:54:20 AM
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This message was edited on February 20, 2023 at 12:01:45 PM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: brewer1s on February 19 2023 at 03:17:00 PM

I look at your stats all the time on here and your opinion is clear although it has never been and will never be my favorite track and it is great that they are running on Thursday night 



The stats billv puts out. Over half the races at Lincoln are won from the 4th row or further back.

Look at all the stats.  Lincoln is the best track in PA and second place isn't even close.  Average starting position is almost 2 better than the asphalt palace.  Port very rarely has a bottom groove.  Knoxville & Eldora almost always have a top and bottom groove.  

Winner from the front row percentage.

  • 22% Lincoln
  • 32% Port Royal

Average starting postion

  • 6.4 Lincoln
  • 4.7 Port Royal

Winners from outside the top 3 rows.

  • 56% Lincoln
  • 21% Lernerville
  • 20% River Cities
  • 19% Husets
  • 18% Port Royal

Deepest winning Positions.

  • 19th Port Royal - Took a 50 lapper to get this one.
  • 17th River Cities
  • 13th Lincoln

 


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BillV99
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February 20, 2023 at 12:18:53 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 20 2023 at 11:54:20 AM

The stats billv puts out. Over half the races at Lincoln are won from the 4th row or further back.

Look at all the stats.  Lincoln is the best track in PA and second place isn't even close.  Average starting position is almost 2 better than the asphalt palace.  Port very rarely has a bottom groove.  Knoxville & Eldora almost always have a top and bottom groove.  

Winner from the front row percentage.

  • 22% Lincoln
  • 32% Port Royal

Average starting postion

  • 6.4 Lincoln
  • 4.7 Port Royal

Winners from outside the top 3 rows.

  • 56% Lincoln
  • 21% Lernerville
  • 20% River Cities
  • 19% Husets
  • 18% Port Royal

Deepest winning Positions.

  • 19th Port Royal - Took a 50 lapper to get this one.
  • 17th River Cities
  • 13th Lincoln

 



It's funny you forgot to mention the 2021 stats...

Average Winning Starting Positions

  • 4.4 Port Royal Speedway (PA) (best avg 410 weekly track)
  • 4.3 Lincoln Speedway (PA)

Winner From Pole Position

  • 15% Knoxville Raceway (IA)
  • 18% Sharon Speedway (OH)
  • 20% Port Royal Speedway (PA)
  • 20% Attica Raceway Park (OH)
  • 20% Fremont Speedway (OH)
  • 24% Lincoln Speedway (PA)

Winner From Front Row

  • 30% Knoxville Raceway (IA)
  • 35% Attica Raceway Park (OH)
  • 38% Lincoln Speedway (PA)
  • 40% Port Royal Speedway (PA)

Winner From Outside Top 3 Rows

  • 21% Lincoln Speedway (PA)
  • 20% Port Royal Speedway (PA)

 

 



BStrawser26
February 20, 2023 at 12:34:15 PM
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Posted By: BillV99 on February 20 2023 at 12:18:53 PM

It's funny you forgot to mention the 2021 stats...

Average Winning Starting Positions

  • 4.4 Port Royal Speedway (PA) (best avg 410 weekly track)
  • 4.3 Lincoln Speedway (PA)

Winner From Pole Position

  • 15% Knoxville Raceway (IA)
  • 18% Sharon Speedway (OH)
  • 20% Port Royal Speedway (PA)
  • 20% Attica Raceway Park (OH)
  • 20% Fremont Speedway (OH)
  • 24% Lincoln Speedway (PA)

Winner From Front Row

  • 30% Knoxville Raceway (IA)
  • 35% Attica Raceway Park (OH)
  • 38% Lincoln Speedway (PA)
  • 40% Port Royal Speedway (PA)

Winner From Outside Top 3 Rows

  • 21% Lincoln Speedway (PA)
  • 20% Port Royal Speedway (PA)

 

 



It still proves my point Lincoln still had a higher winning percentage from outside the first 3 rows and a lower winners rate from the front row.  Thanks for proving my point.

The average starting position 4.4 to 4.3 now that is a smokin gun!....LOL!!


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


longtimefan
February 20, 2023 at 12:47:52 PM
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Port Royal has too many time trial races and not enough handicapped races. I have compained about that for couple of years now. Most of those races are good ones but it will result in lower average starting positions for the winner no matter which track it is on. The big purse races are nice but I fear that it will hurt the family fan base  and future fans with the higher admission cost.



BillV99
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February 20, 2023 at 12:58:55 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 20 2023 at 12:34:15 PM

It still proves my point Lincoln still had a higher winning percentage from outside the first 3 rows and a lower winners rate from the front row.  Thanks for proving my point.

The average starting position 4.4 to 4.3 now that is a smokin gun!....LOL!!



No, it proves that BOTH tracks are pretty good and consistantly at the top of the list.  

 



MandGRacing96
February 20, 2023 at 01:03:52 PM
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Posted By: BillV99 on February 20 2023 at 12:58:55 PM

No, it proves that BOTH tracks are pretty good and consistantly at the top of the list.  

 



Hey mods we need a ignore feature on here..when this site, as a whole, is enjoyable except for two dbags that spew the same crap every post.  Wouldnt see any of it if I could ignore them/her/him whatever they are.  Just my opinion

 




BStrawser26
February 20, 2023 at 01:47:23 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on February 20 2023 at 12:47:52 PM

Port Royal has too many time trial races and not enough handicapped races. I have compained about that for couple of years now. Most of those races are good ones but it will result in lower average starting positions for the winner no matter which track it is on. The big purse races are nice but I fear that it will hurt the family fan base  and future fans with the higher admission cost.



Lincoln has a lot of time trail races too.  So what is your point?


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BStrawser26
February 20, 2023 at 01:49:29 PM
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Posted By: BillV99 on February 20 2023 at 12:58:55 PM

No, it proves that BOTH tracks are pretty good and consistantly at the top of the list.  

 



Not really.  Lincoln is by far the raciest track in central PA.  Second place isn't even close.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!



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