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longtimefan
February 11, 2024 at 04:44:58 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on February 10 2024 at 10:37:42 PM

Yeah the outlaw drivers just won 2 out of 4 WoO races, but I predict the High Limit drivers will win 100% of the upcoming Florida H-L races. wink



There is a few guys who are not commited to either series who might have something to say about that.



BStrawser26
February 11, 2024 at 05:52:03 PM
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Posted By: lpjazz on February 11 2024 at 04:43:41 PM

Hmm, checking the point standings on the outlaws website shows 4 of the top 7 are outlaws, 3 are high-limit after the first 4 races.  One could say the outlaws came out on top.  Okay, who is going to see the numbers a different way.....come on, you know you want to!



Now lol at the podiums.  You will see a different story.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

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Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Murphy
February 11, 2024 at 05:54:39 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on February 11 2024 at 04:44:58 PM

There is a few guys who are not commited to either series who might have something to say about that.



That's possible. The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Anthony Macri and Brian Brown. Who else fits in that category?




Parnelli1970
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Good make sure when HL is there you and your pom poms stay home.



lpjazz
February 11, 2024 at 06:44:54 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 11 2024 at 05:52:03 PM

Now lol at the podiums.  You will see a different story.



So easy to bait!!!



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February 12, 2024 at 10:55:47 AM
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My first thought when all this went down was that this season will be a streamers paradise, local WoO shows will be missing a few familiar drivers and HL is nothing more than a TV show where I live.  I can see that I missed something in my initial assessment.  The social media and message board battles are going to be epic after every race.

One thing I have learned is that whatever I expected to be the story line of the season is usually way off.  Something we didn't think of often becomes the story line that dominates the conversation.  I wonder what that will be?


Stan Meissner


chuck80
February 12, 2024 at 12:55:19 PM
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Posted By: StanM on February 11 2024 at 10:45:10 AM

Just what we need.  A WoO HL recap and debate after every race all season long.  Volusia is an outlier that chews up new motors before the season really gets going.  I watched four nights of good racing with a few exciting moments without having to leave the house in February.  That is a win for the viewers.  My apologies to Chris Stepan the Modified announcer.  Chris did the pill draw at the back gate and announcing at Cedar Lake back when I was signing in to take photos.  Sorry Chris, I changed channels to USAC while he was announcing the Mods at Volusia.  
 

The pendulum is going to swing back and forth all season when WoO and HL drivers go head to head.  Nobody is questioning whether or not there is talent in both series.  HL drivers that never followed a tour will become seasoned travelers by this summer.  Meanwhile Brian Brown and Macri who aren't signed on with either had decent weekends as well.  Like I said a month ago, TV watching is going to be awesome but there will be fewer fan favorites at WoO races in some markets that HL doesn't get into.  IRA looks to be getting over this way and our neighbor has two new chassis and 410's so there is plenty of racing aside from the touring stuff that only comes around a couple times per season.  



I could care less whether the winner comes from HL or the WoO's. Just so they put on a good race is all I care about. It sucks that the WoO has such control over their cars. That is one thing I have have never liked about the WoO's. These guys race for a living and should be able to race whenever and where ever they want to race.  As for Chris Stepen announcing the modified and late models at tracks that the sprint cars run. I like that. He is and always has been a very good announcer. I don't have to turn the volume down when he announces. 



BStrawser26
February 12, 2024 at 02:10:13 PM
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Posted By: lpjazz on February 11 2024 at 06:44:54 PM

So easy to bait!!!



Nope staying facts. The HL guys in 4 races have more podiums than do the outlaws.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BStrawser26
February 12, 2024 at 02:12:24 PM
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Posted By: chuck80 on February 12 2024 at 12:55:19 PM

I could care less whether the winner comes from HL or the WoO's. Just so they put on a good race is all I care about. It sucks that the WoO has such control over their cars. That is one thing I have have never liked about the WoO's. These guys race for a living and should be able to race whenever and where ever they want to race.  As for Chris Stepen announcing the modified and late models at tracks that the sprint cars run. I like that. He is and always has been a very good announcer. I don't have to turn the volume down when he announces. 



I agree, but there are a lot of Woo homers that think they have the far superior talent over the HL guys.  They are wrong.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


egras
February 12, 2024 at 02:48:47 PM
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Posted By: lpjazz on February 11 2024 at 04:43:41 PM

Hmm, checking the point standings on the outlaws website shows 4 of the top 7 are outlaws, 3 are high-limit after the first 4 races.  One could say the outlaws came out on top.  Okay, who is going to see the numbers a different way.....come on, you know you want to!



Don't let facts get in the way.............................................there are some that are claiming that although the winner of the Gator was an Outlaw, the top 2 points getters through the first 4 races were Outlaws, 4 of the top 7 are Outlaws, and Outlaw drivers won 2 of the first 4 races, somehow they were dominated in those 4 races and their demise in imminent.  

 

While we're at it, I'm assuming there was at least one Outlaw driver that got extra work area time in at least 1 race...............why haven't we heard about this yet?  (for those that don't understand you can't get too much time in the work area when the rule states a minimum amount of time, and not a maximum----I was hoping we could rehash this again this year as well.........stay tuned)

 

 



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Don't let facts get in the way.............................................there are some that are claiming that although the winner of the Gator was an Outlaw, the top 2 points getters through the first 4 races were Outlaws, 4 of the top 7 are Outlaws, and Outlaw drivers won 2 of the first 4 races, somehow they were dominated in those 4 races and their demise in imminent.  

 

While we're at it, I'm assuming there was at least one Outlaw driver that got extra work area time in at least 1 race...............why haven't we heard about this yet?  (for those that don't understand you can't get too much time in the work area when the rule states a minimum amount of time, and not a maximum----I was hoping we could rehash this again this year as well.........stay tuned)

 

 



Nope what I said was look at the podiums.  That tells the story for each night. 

No one wants the demise of the outlaws.  Just want people on here to realize there are very fast cars on the HL tour.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

YungWun24
February 12, 2024 at 03:32:00 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 10 2024 at 09:28:37 AM

I agree, however, just about everyone on here said how great the outlaw drivers are and how bad the HL drivers are.  Wanted to point out that they were wrong.  But if the outlaw drivers were better..  .they should have swept the podium each of the first three nights. 

I don't do the excuse thing where they are not running for points...that is an excuse that doesn't hold water.



"Just about everyone" I would disagree with. Everyone knows except for maybe a loud minority, that both series has some serious talent and experience. 

And at the end of the season we all can still argue if it makes us feel better, about which series is better, and still will not have a clear answer.

What will be telling to me is what percentage of teams that started in each of their own series will finish the season, and also run season two, and three. 

Season one finishers have incentive to finish in the top (5) b/c of the charter system, which I'm not sure we fully understand how much that'll benefit those teams. Season two, 2025, the top finishing teams not in the 1st years charter will round out (10) total charters, so there's incentive for at least ten teams to complete on a regular basis each season. But will teams after (10) stick around, and will the top (10) teams want to share the revenue with additional teams. 

Lets say theres an one million dollars in revenue, lets call it "profit sharing" that the top ten drivers recieve. If there are 1 - 5 more teams consistently running the HL series and they want in, are the existing 10 charters willing to divide that "profit sharing" with 5 other teams or even one or two other teams. 


Keep It Real


egras
February 12, 2024 at 04:28:39 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on February 12 2024 at 03:03:40 PM

Nope what I said was look at the podiums.  That tells the story for each night. 

No one wants the demise of the outlaws.  Just want people on here to realize there are very fast cars on the HL tour.



I'm glad you pointed that out!  Most of us on Hoseheads are way too dumb to realize who Brad Sweet, Rico Abreu, Sunshine, and Brent Marks are.  I looked them up.  Turns out, you were 100% correct.  They are very good!   My apologies for not already knowing this.  

 

This just in: Brad Sweet is good!  I'm shocked he won a race evwn though i read hes a 5 time champ.  (Is that true?) Don't take my word for it-----Strawser pointed it out before anyone knew he had a shot.   And this Rico guy----can't believe he ran up front a couple of times either.  Where's he from?   This Tyler Courtney fellow---has he ever won  a big Outlaw race before---say, a crown jewel?   These guys have come out of nowhere to compete against the Outlaws!  Striking!   



saphead
February 12, 2024 at 05:06:20 PM
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This is America, we don't care about 'podiums'. We care about winning, money, trophies and glory. And also pit lizards.  

 



Parnelli1970
February 12, 2024 at 05:09:31 PM
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Posted By: saphead on February 12 2024 at 05:06:20 PM

This is America, we don't care about 'podiums'. We care about winning, money, trophies and glory. And also pit lizards.  

 



Amen.




Murphy
February 12, 2024 at 05:33:11 PM
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Posted By: egras on February 12 2024 at 04:28:39 PM

I'm glad you pointed that out!  Most of us on Hoseheads are way too dumb to realize who Brad Sweet, Rico Abreu, Sunshine, and Brent Marks are.  I looked them up.  Turns out, you were 100% correct.  They are very good!   My apologies for not already knowing this.  

 

This just in: Brad Sweet is good!  I'm shocked he won a race evwn though i read hes a 5 time champ.  (Is that true?) Don't take my word for it-----Strawser pointed it out before anyone knew he had a shot.   And this Rico guy----can't believe he ran up front a couple of times either.  Where's he from?   This Tyler Courtney fellow---has he ever won  a big Outlaw race before---say, a crown jewel?   These guys have come out of nowhere to compete against the Outlaws!  Striking!   



Brad Sweet has not won 5 High Limit championships! FACT!  You can't handle the truth!!!



Murphy
February 12, 2024 at 05:35:43 PM
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Wow, I'm getting kinda nostalgic for junior high again. My team rocks! Your team SUCKS!
 

Am I doing this right?



Parnelli1970
February 12, 2024 at 05:48:33 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on February 12 2024 at 05:35:43 PM

Wow, I'm getting kinda nostalgic for junior high again. My team rocks! Your team SUCKS!
 

Am I doing this right?



Did you bring your pom poms?




Rodneyincanad
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I found sprint cars after the Posse became the Outlaws rival. I assume much of these same discussions took place then.  Regardless of the brand on the evening I know I will be happy watching sprints cars race because somebody will win and it won't matter who, but I'll be happy!



egras
February 12, 2024 at 06:15:17 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on February 12 2024 at 05:33:11 PM

Brad Sweet has not won 5 High Limit championships! FACT!  You can't handle the truth!!!



Fantastic!   Smile





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