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He took up ALOT of room to keep the 4 car from beating him to turn one. I used to race I understand, especially for 56 grand

Well we know you're always so intent on checking the lap times, so if anyone would be able to refute or corroborate Pittman's comment, it'd be you....

Well we went from NO contact to very little to incidental?? Brock timed Lances' restart perfectly and if no contact would have been outside lance going into 1. Lance pushed when on the gas then protected the lead pretty simple!!! No ones fault JMO!!!!

It was an awesome night of racing. I made 2 new sprint car fans last night.

Lance was extending his lead each and every time he crossed the start start finish line after Pitman got into second anyone with eyes could see that.

Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

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Kind of neat to have 3 former drivers of the 27 in the top 5 (Lance, Pittman, R. Smith).

Whoosh....

there goes the sarcasm over your head.

Not really.....I am not going to play your games.  I deal in facts....not what is wishful thinking 

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Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Yep....Saw it all. Almost like a replay of Friday night, except the names changed. As for Stewart, he did pretty much what Schatz did on Friday night. Seeing as how you made no mention of that on the Scelzi thread, I'm guessing you must have missed that "charge" by Donny (too busy watching Lance not go forward I guess) on Friday night. Anytime only one driver makes a "charge" from 22nd to squeak in to the top ten.....especially in 40 laps.....there's not much racing taking place. In forty laps, given the talent that was starting mid-field and further back several drivers should have had some decent runs forward. And I'm not speaking Outlaw drivers only, here. Wolfe struggled, as did Freddie Rahmer.  Freddie (kind of like Sheldon did on Friday night) came the same number of spots forward that Stewart did, but started in 28th. Both were the benifactors of drivers that had problems, gifting both of them at least three positions. 

Oh, and what I saw was Zeerfoss have trouble grtting around a lapped car, which caused him to slide up and allow Dewease to split the two and go on by Zearfoss for the lead through the middle of the track..

Scratch your head to come up with that one or scratch your ass? You certainly haven't been watching tha Nationals in recent years.

Am I missing something?

When's the last time the 69K didn't spend most of the race running the bottom?

Dewease drifted high and put the squeeze on Zearfoss, and most definately let his right rear hang out just a little on the restart which caught the left front tire of Zearfoss. Anybody can see that one. Just a racing deal in my in mind.

Pittman was using racer talk. LOL The cars with a lot of track time at the Grove did the best overall. That includes some of the invaders who were once regulars, Pittman included. I heard Giovanni Schelzi had PA help, but didn't hear who it was or if it's even true. Seems logical though. Tough night for Rahmer and Dietrich, getting tangled up in incidents of no fault of their own. Trey Starks seems to be accident prone.

No games at all, you just have no clue what my point actually was.

My point had nothing to do with Pittman being as fast as the 69K at the end. I couldn't care less about that. My point was, I found it funny that not even a month ago you were on here telling people about how great of a race they watched by simply looking at lap times and the start/finish order.

Now last night you actually go to the track and watch the race, and when Blazer disagrees with your assessment on the racing, you essentially tell him, "From my perspective the racing was great." Blazer essentially did the same thing you always do. Although he was more informed than you usually are about Port Royal because he actually watched it on PPV. You can't find the humor in that? Is that irony lost on you? That's why I made my initial sarcastic remark to you.

I watched the highlights and talked to someone who was at Port.  Then I looked at the start and finishing order.  That is all you need since I have been to Port over 100 times in my life. 

I have been to Port many times when the track is right and many times when the track was way off.  I know what times they need to be turning to have the most exciting racing.  If it is any slower than high 15 to very low 16 second bracket in warmups you see the track getting hard, black, and dry before the heats are over=sucky racing.  That is not an opinion that is fact.  

Last year I went to port for the last time when they had the track so good....lol.....that they were running 18 to 19 second time trial laps.  It was worse than watching paint dry.  I will not be back until they bring back the excitement.  

Having said all that the minus a two nights at the end of the year they have actually had the track much better.  I was thinking about going to Port for the 50 now I am not so sure.  It may have to wait until next year...wanting to make sure they are doing what they need in order to bring the excitement back to the Port.   They have a great facility and that is where it ends....the racing is subpar in the feature.  I could careless about the heats.  I hate slip and slides for features. 

Last night the drivers could still get grip on the high side or the low side in the feature = very exciting racing. 

Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Don’t know if Gio had PA help, but PPM was there and he does have some limited Grove experience. Team surely shot down the “need track experience at the Grove” argument. Only second time at the track for Gio (1st in a 410) as well as the Indy team and they get a win. 

From what I saw, Brock tried to keep Lance pinned down to screw up his launch on the restart. It's a trick I've seen countless times there from virtually all the regulars and even a lot of the travelers who have some laps there. 99% of the time, starting on the inside front row is a huge advantage vs. the outside at The Grove. 

I'm not so sure they shot down the argument of "need track experience at the Grove", really. Starting front row played a major part in his success (which by WoO rules he earned), couple that with a track that stayed fast and narrow for everybody and position changes can be rather limited during the course of a race. He was fast on Saturday night also, and went backwards. The kid has all kinds of talent, but he is far from being a regular threat or even a not so regular threat at Williams Grove.

I thought Lance & Zearfoss were pretty much going for the same line & Lance was more aggressive. There was contact, but it was a racing deal, IMHO

You're talking about Lance's winning pass, which was perfection. I think most of us are talking about side by side bumping on restart, about lap 25 (?)