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Topic: Abreu's commitment takes him out of the Nationals, crew member to start
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August 15, 2015 at
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He followed the rules that have been in place for decades. If not for the car modifications, I am sure they would have someone else in the car. Karl Kinser, Tony Stewart, Kasey Kahne, Gil Sonner, Terry McCarl, etc. would all do the same thing given the chassis can't be modified to fit another driver. BTW, Rico isn't the car owner. Ultimately it isn't his decision anyway.
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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: kossuth on August 15 2015 at 02:45:10 PM
AGREED...... Absolute bullshit that he races the prelims and gets in the A main then bows out for a prior commitment. He in essence screwed over dozens of fellow racers by racing his prelims and changing the finishing order. Knoxville should not allow this end of story. It's an insult to fellow drivers and fans alike.
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Laughing at the claim of all the "screwed" over racers who weren't fast enough to EARN their way into tonight's A-main.
What a bunch of sore-ass whiners crying in this thead. Every other team not in the A-main tonight had a chance to score more points thatn Abreu did, and couldn't do it. The Knoxville Nationals aren't welfare or a handout for all the other teams who didn't score enough points to earn a spot in the A-main. Don't want to get "screwed" by a team scoring more points, then earn points to prevent it from happening.
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August 15, 2015 at
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Wanted to add that I wouldn't care if Abreu would take his portion of the tonight's purse and light it on fire or flush it down the toilet. The guy earned his spot on qualifying night. Screw any bellyaching whiner on here lobbying for a handout into the A-main.
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August 15, 2015 at
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You can't show up at a football game and be declared the winner after 3 quarters. Rico perpetrated a fraud on the rest of the field. Should be dq'd and top five from B tonight should be in tonight's championship field.
Between this and taking a provisional for the Australian pursuit, such decisions are really starting to hurt Knoxville's credibility.
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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: Bruce Goodwin on August 15 2015 at 03:09:20 PM
You say, Replace Rico's #24 "Abreu Vineyards" sponcered car/crew with anothers!!...not thinkin thats as simple as said!!...Rico's cockpit is slightly differently configured for him specifically!!!!....like it has been stated...he Raced his A$$ off to get in and he earned the rite to the starting possition (16th) by his total overall Pts.earned!!....just like the rest of them!!..more than likely...he had asked Track/WoO n got permission for the Start n Park deal!!..SOME PEEPS on these Message Boards are just never satisfied unless they're cry'n, piss'n n moan'n bout somethin' or somebody!!!!!..JMO
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That's a hell of an assumption to make that he got "permission". I doubt he asked anybody from Knoxville/WOO about this. This was a decision between his NASCAR owner, his sprint car owner, and him.
To start and park is absolute bullshit. This is the biggest race of the year for sprint car fans and drivers alike. Start and park in any form of motorsports is absolute bullshit. Sprint car racing is grass roots motorsports where to many of the teams that are competing week in and out across the country are doing this as a hobby and will never make a nickel racing. Many of those that didn't go dis to real jobs or the lack of equipment etc this is a huge disrespect.
This is our Indy 500. This is the equivalent of starting and parking after Indy bump day. And if you can't see what's wrong with that then I don't know how to help you because your lost.
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August 15, 2015 at
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If the car has mechanical issues, it's a scratch. Should work the same with the driver. Can a guy that can't qualify good put another driver in, then switch? Sounds that way if this happens.
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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: kossuth on August 15 2015 at 02:49:57 PM
Rico isn't bowing out because he is a nice guy. You aren't seeing past the wool. He is chasing a much bigger paycheck, NASCAR. 5k at this point is chump change to him compared to what he is hoping to make on Sunday's. He should have never raced in Knoxville if he wasn't willing to meet the entire obligation.
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Of course everyone in the world is looking to become more financially stable, that's kinda a dumb statement. Maybe next year knoxville will change the rule and start giving out participation trophies so nobody's feelings get hurt.
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August 15, 2015 at
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Not one of you fools has a dog in this fight. If the other 96 cars that didn't get locked in have an issue with it then they should have scored more points than Rico on their qualifying night. Plain and simple. For those of you bitchin' and moanin' - tough shit. That entire team deserves to take in the parade lap and everything that comes with it since they put her in the show.
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August 15, 2015 at
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Fans DO have a dog in the fight...they bought tickets and made the trip, bought PPV and generally care about the credibility of an event such as this.
If your'e not in it to win it, stay home.
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August 15, 2015 at
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I had no idea butt hurt was so contagious. Good news, I'm pretty sure they make an ointment for that.
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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: sprint777x on August 15 2015 at 04:15:49 PM
Fans DO have a dog in the fight...they bought tickets and made the trip, bought PPV and generally care about the credibility of an event such as this.
If your'e not in it to win it, stay home.
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Yeah and watching Rico race Wednesday night was worth every dollar of my ticket price.
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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: kossuth on August 15 2015 at 04:01:26 PM
That's a hell of an assumption to make that he got "permission". I doubt he asked anybody from Knoxville/WOO about this. This was a decision between his NASCAR owner, his sprint car owner, and him.
To start and park is absolute bullshit. This is the biggest race of the year for sprint car fans and drivers alike. Start and park in any form of motorsports is absolute bullshit. Sprint car racing is grass roots motorsports where to many of the teams that are competing week in and out across the country are doing this as a hobby and will never make a nickel racing. Many of those that didn't go dis to real jobs or the lack of equipment etc this is a huge disrespect.
This is our Indy 500. This is the equivalent of starting and parking after Indy bump day. And if you can't see what's wrong with that then I don't know how to help you because your lost.
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The point about Knoxville being the Indy 500 of Sprint Car racing is spot on. Start and parks have happened at Indy in recent years, so the crying and whining about a team doing what they want in this case with their starting spot is especially ridiculous.
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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: sprint777x on August 15 2015 at 04:00:40 PM
You can't show up at a football game and be declared the winner after 3 quarters. Rico perpetrated a fraud on the rest of the field. Should be dq'd and top five from B tonight should be in tonight's championship field.
Between this and taking a provisional for the Australian pursuit, such decisions are really starting to hurt Knoxville's credibility.
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A fraud? LOL Exaggerate much. Yea, like there would be more "credibility" in removing a team from the race that earned the points to be there.
What on God's green earth or the heavens above does a football game have to do with the Knoxville Nationals?
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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: sprint777x on August 15 2015 at 04:00:40 PM
You can't show up at a football game and be declared the winner after 3 quarters. Rico perpetrated a fraud on the rest of the field. Should be dq'd and top five from B tonight should be in tonight's championship field.
Between this and taking a provisional for the Australian pursuit, such decisions are really starting to hurt Knoxville's credibility.
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How does your analogy compare to what is going on here at all? Rico qualified the car using the criteria required. I didn't think he was asking to be named the winner of the Knoxville Nationals. He earnd the spot, he can do whatever he wants with it. His car will finish in 25th and he'll make 25th place money. Why are people freaking out here?
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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: kossuth on August 15 2015 at 04:01:26 PM
That's a hell of an assumption to make that he got "permission". I doubt he asked anybody from Knoxville/WOO about this. This was a decision between his NASCAR owner, his sprint car owner, and him.
To start and park is absolute bullshit. This is the biggest race of the year for sprint car fans and drivers alike. Start and park in any form of motorsports is absolute bullshit. Sprint car racing is grass roots motorsports where to many of the teams that are competing week in and out across the country are doing this as a hobby and will never make a nickel racing. Many of those that didn't go dis to real jobs or the lack of equipment etc this is a huge disrespect.
This is our Indy 500. This is the equivalent of starting and parking after Indy bump day. And if you can't see what's wrong with that then I don't know how to help you because your lost.
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You're usually a pretty rational poster here on the board, the Hagerstown speedweek race notwithstanding, so why are you so mad about this? You talk about Indy. If a driver earns their spot in the big 33, and chooses to pull off after one lap, so what. That's their prerogative. Would I want them to race? Sure. Do I want Rico to race? Yes. But, in both examples the guys met the criteria to run in the big race, but due to circumstances, things didn't work out. Guys could have passed Rico or ran harder on Wednesday to keep him out of the top-16. Is this move costing you any money? If it is, I apologize. I doubt that it is though.
I just don't understand all of the outrage and handwringing for this. Does everyone criticizing this move so vehemently sleep better knowing that they were "outraged" at some point in their day?
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August 15, 2015 at
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Can't say I blame Rico or his team, he only did what was in the rules. But maybe the rules need to be changed.
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August 15, 2015 at
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August 15, 2015 at
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Rico's start and park means there one less driver going for the win and one less guy making the race who wants to run the whole race
Again, I'm a fan of Rico...but all this whining and crying for those trying to defends this is cracking us up! ????
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August 15, 2015 at
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Posted By: Canucklehead on August 15 2015 at 04:40:49 PM
Can't say I blame Rico or his team, he only did what was in the rules. But maybe the rules need to be changed.
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Yea if you can't race sat you don't get to race sat.
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August 15, 2015 at
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DQ Start and Park Teams...Knoxville is a joke if they pay a crew guy to wear a drivers suit to take food out of the mouths of actual racers.
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
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