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Topic: 10 of last 11 WoO races front row winners - ASCS just as bad! Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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n2sprints
May 21, 2014 at 07:24:47 AM
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OK, heres my .02, TRACK PREP or the lack off!!!!!!!! WoO should hire the Dunkins(sp) of Knoxville. 

Track prep!!!!! are listenimg Tracey Clay(I-30)



dirtybeer
May 21, 2014 at 07:54:30 AM
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on May 20 2014 at 09:54:12 PM

will someone tell me how having the left rear tire shrink makes it difficult to get the car turned.



I hear ya,never heard of more stagger making the car harder to turn,but also don't believe the tires are shrinking either.



Oakland Sprint Fan
May 21, 2014 at 08:55:17 AM
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After last night's race, we now have 11 of 12 races with a front row winner. 


  


ohReally?
May 21, 2014 at 09:01:24 AM
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Posted By: n2sprints on May 21 2014 at 07:24:47 AM

OK, heres my .02, TRACK PREP or the lack off!!!!!!!! WoO should hire the Dunkins(sp) of Knoxville. 

Track prep!!!!! are listenimg Tracey Clay(I-30)



I doubt hiring the Dunkins would help any traveling circuit. They work all week to get one track ready. 

 

The type of track prep needed can hardly be completed the day of or the day before a race. With a travelling circuit there are not enough Dunkin's to go around to complete the job properly.



n2sprints
May 21, 2014 at 09:17:39 AM
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Posted By: ohReally? on May 21 2014 at 09:01:24 AM

I doubt hiring the Dunkins would help any traveling circuit. They work all week to get one track ready. 

 

The type of track prep needed can hardly be completed the day of or the day before a race. With a travelling circuit there are not enough Dunkin's to go around to complete the job properly.



That was a "tongue in cheek" statment.

If you gonna own a track, learn track prep!!!!!!!!



opnwhlr
May 21, 2014 at 09:50:34 AM
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Oakland Sprint Fan
May 21, 2014 at 08:55:17 AM
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After last night's race, we now have 11 of 12 races with a front row winner

 

WoO=Front Row Joe  Frown   Without passing points it will continue this way!


 
I LEARNED ESP FROM MY MOM

"PUT YOUR SWEATER ON: DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW WHEN 
YOU'RE COLD?"


checkered48
May 21, 2014 at 11:35:09 AM
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IMO Goodyears produced better racing no matter the surface. I bet even ole Sammy wishes he were back on the GY's instead of the whoseyours! As for passing points, screw that, I don't want to have to have a notebook and calculator to follow the races.



davemahar
May 21, 2014 at 04:52:00 PM
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Anybody that has been to The Trophy Cup knows what the solution is.



DC1
May 21, 2014 at 09:35:49 PM
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on May 20 2014 at 09:54:12 PM

will someone tell me how having the left rear tire shrink makes it difficult to get the car turned.



Buzz, my bad. Great catch, I typed the wrong tire in there. The crew member I spoke to said right rear shrunk and the left rear grew. That was after his driver went from 5th to 14th in a recent A main.




dirtface
May 21, 2014 at 09:56:31 PM
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Take the damn wings off.


We need more sprint car racing at our home track.

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May 21, 2014 at 10:23:44 PM
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According to my race stat page...the WoO have run 29 races and have had 41 lead changes.  

 

The ASCS have run 7 races with 8 lead changes.


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tenter
May 21, 2014 at 11:41:13 PM
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Posted By: brettco on May 20 2014 at 08:52:36 PM

I don't know of any winged tracks that have more passing when heavy vs slick which is why more passing takes place in features not heats. It's a tough balance because once the track is slick for long it lays rubber.

 That to me is the real problem. How hard can it be to make a tire compound that won't transfer rubber to the track?




Impossible.




jake899
May 22, 2014 at 10:57:50 AM
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I understand it's entertaining to the fans to see people drive through fields of cars to win.  As racers though, you're paid to finish first.  It doesn't matter what position you start from, the goal is to be the first across the line.  They're doing the job asked of them.  It may suck for the fan, but the degree of parody in fields is so close anymore that you very seldom see cars drive through an entire field to win.



checkered48
May 22, 2014 at 11:26:32 AM
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At the Nationals last year we all watched Donny Schatz put on a nearly worse to first finish and most of the people boo'd and bitched about him winning! He passed the best sprint drivers in the world and hardly anyone had a good thing to say about it. If you don't like going don't like going then don't go! Passing points suck!



vande77
May 22, 2014 at 12:29:25 PM
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Posted By: checkered48 on May 22 2014 at 11:26:32 AM

At the Nationals last year we all watched Donny Schatz put on a nearly worse to first finish and most of the people boo'd and bitched about him winning! He passed the best sprint drivers in the world and hardly anyone had a good thing to say about it. If you don't like going don't like going then don't go! Passing points suck!




15-20 years from now people will talk about Donny's charge like they do Wolfgang's runs through the alphabet in 1990




HoldenCaulfield
May 22, 2014 at 05:10:13 PM
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Posted By: Mephit71 on May 20 2014 at 05:42:53 PM

Most of the complaints in PA were coming from 358 teams who couldn't buy used tires from the 410 teams when the 410s were running Goodyears.

 

But yeah, I definitely feel like the racing was better (even though Fred never quite got the hang of them).



Without a doubt it was better with the GY's. Most 410 guys hated them too. Most teams/drivers don't want anything that's gonna make the car harder to lockdown and drive. They want to go faster and have a car that's easy to drive even if that puts them at a disadvantage to the $$$ teams with the best motors. IMO the weight rule didn't help either. It may have saved teams money but a higherHP/weight ratio makes the cars more of a handful which is what you want for good racing. Right now the best solutions seem to be smaller tracks, smaller wings(or no wings) and harder/smaller tires.


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