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dirt in ur beer
March 17, 2013 at 07:07:45 PM
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I'm a fan of Sides. That being said if you feel wronged give the guy a bump or the finger. Its never acceptible to turn ur car into an 800 h.p. weapon ! For a guy running on as limited a budget as Jason is id think hed b the last one making scrap metal out of race car parts. Then again you can head back to the guys hauler n explain just how dedicated you r to whipping his ass. Still not the most mature angle but a bloody nose is better than seriously hurt in a wadded up racecar.

dirtdevil
March 17, 2013 at 07:12:51 PM
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Posted By: opnwhlr on March 17 2013 at 06:25:35 PM

So dirtdevil...because a driver is not running for WoO points they should no drive hard? In other words.."hey local...if a WoO driver wants to pass you just pull over and let him by. After all, you're 'just' a local!" Sorry, that doesn't work. Sides was totally wrong and if he isn't penalized the WoO, in my opinion, doesn't have much credibility.



so, your trying to put words in my mouth, ok, I knew I shouldn't have entered this debate due to the strong majority in favor of Netto, but, since I have nothing else to do and the snow is piling up outside , I did say "ill give props to a local running hard", I myself happen to be a local,, I ALWAYS cheer for the upset, but, driver edicut should be granted when running against someone that proubly didn't run you wrong in the past, (theres a whole new topic) Im just assuming these two have no history, Again the purpose of my post was Netto was in a solid transfer spot, If he did tag Sides deliberately or due to instant lack of control, (understandable this is racing shit happens fast) Netto should have layed down and accepted his transfer to the A, his actions were" Godzilla like" and he proubly should have stepped down a bit and saved the "full on" for the" A" which he would have been in, less the controversy, JMO

 



dirtdevil
March 17, 2013 at 07:16:22 PM
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Posted By: dirtface on March 17 2013 at 06:02:34 PM
Are you a part of Dirt Vision may I ask ?


Nope, just happened to be tuned in last night, and didn't see the actuall hit, just caught Sides spinning to the infield saving the car , keeping it underpower, then killing it on the front streach, was pretty strange he would do that , that late in the race and not pushing for another position at the time, thus maybe why the camera wasn't on that position?




opnwhlr
March 17, 2013 at 07:40:48 PM
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I don't know Netto. Not a fan. Just found the "antics" of Sides totally wrong...from stopping on the front stretch to purposely bring out the yellow...to waiting to fire off and go after Netto. Very "bush" league of Sides.


 
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dirtdevil
March 17, 2013 at 08:00:37 PM
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Niether do I, agreed, Sides actions may be a little strong, but, these drivers are faced with high emotions, if Sides was hit in the rear without knowing Nettto was there he had absolutely no chance of correcting a problem , his transfer was thoughtlessly stolen, very frustrating, I wouldn't feel any different had the roles been changed say if Netto was tagged , do you honestly think WRG would DQ Netto for rough driving? proubly not,

as for the credibility of WRG , there is none, I haven't been impressed with their decisions, Sides is proubly the guy who knows the most about that topic, But without them,(any sanction) we wouldn't have anywhere else to race, sadly, just keep on keeping on..



revjimk
March 17, 2013 at 09:36:20 PM
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NO excuse for intentionally wrecking a guy on caution.




rjonesro
March 17, 2013 at 10:32:16 PM
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Netto did not get wrecked by sides. Sides drove his car up to the wall and allowed Netto nowhere to go. The intent was to stop him, If the intent was to wreck him it would have been done much faster and harder. The use of a brake pedal instead of a throttle pedal to drive over the top of sides would have had a result with a lot less car damage. Was sides right, maybe not? Sometimes actions breed reactions. Neither gained anything from what happened. JMO (yes was there, watched it live)



revjimk
March 17, 2013 at 10:34:16 PM
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I have no idea what happened between the 2 of them in the actual race, I'm not a Cali guy, & I've aways liked Sides. CAUTION MEANS CAUTION. Wrecking someone on caution is like hitting after the bell in boxing. Chickenshit



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March 17, 2013 at 10:58:18 PM
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I didn't visually see Jason's spin out or the retaliation but the most sensible thing he could have done would have been to pull into the pits after the spin, let himself cool abit and use 1 of his provisional's to get into the show and race his way up as far as he could to get as many points as possible. I know in the heat of the moment doing the sensible things isn't always the first reaction but in the end his reaction cost him the most points by not even starting the A main. Theres alot of races left in the season but in the end, as we've seen, every championship point can count.


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dirtdevil
March 17, 2013 at 11:10:38 PM
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so spinning a competitor in front of oncoming traffic is completely ok? Waiting for Netto and bunting him out of the ballpark on the restart would have been more accepted? , waiting in the pits for him and knocking his teeth out while belted in is more lagit? , I think Netto got Sides point, Like I said before drivers will police themselves, if WoO would have handed them both a slap on the hands and returned them to their trailers with tootsie rolls nobody would have learned anything, Sides proubly feels a little embarrassed about his reaction, and Netto will proubly try to avoid a unessessary altercation on track, truth be known, by next week itll be someone else that did someone else wrong, this isn't the first time nor the last you will see a driver even the score. Some competitors are just more clean than others. When racing at a high rate of speed for continued laps, concentration,reality and reactions are sometimes hindered. their competitors they all want to win, 90% of the time they all handel themselves fine, fights happen in all kinds of sports, that's just how it goes.



opnwhlr
March 17, 2013 at 11:20:40 PM
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I think our difference is how we are looking at what transpired.

It "seems" you are of the opinion Netto "intentionally" got into Sides. I don't view it that way.

I think it was one of those "racing deals" which happens quite often. Sides intentionally stopping on the track to CAUSE THE YELLOW and then go after Netto was totally unacceptable in my opinion.

Trust me, I don't know "Netto" from NOTTO. Has nothing to do with him other than him being the recipient of Side's drop kick!


 
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Dhowe11164
March 17, 2013 at 11:52:28 PM
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Did you ask the OP if he/she is from CA? They are the one who chose to post this thread. Find that out first, before you continue to make another lame, uninformed comment, which i know you will do anyways, its who you are.


dirtdevil
March 18, 2013 at 12:01:17 AM
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understood, bumping or pushing in a sprint is a way different outcome than lets say door cars, It just doesn't happen as often, if it does the consequences are much much larger than door cars, I respect your opinion , but Ill say it a thousand times Netto wasn't in desperate need of challenging another position that hard, I didn't see it and im posting on pure suspicion , Netto was running hard, that's ok, Haudenshield runs on full tilt but has become (pretty much) a master of it, that's just his style, A local taking the checkers has some chilling effect on the crowd that's ok, As Speed stated the best thing to do would have been to go to his pits pull a provisional and try to forget about it, Im assuming Sides would like to save his provisional for later in the year. Possie will love that, he let his emotions get the best of him and faulted, Quite honestly, he's one of the most down to earth racers i have met, on the track, heat of the moment, people just dont act the same..



ROTORGLOW
March 18, 2013 at 12:43:52 AM
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Jason had a transfer locked in when the kid "Netto" driving over his head all night went to the bottom way to hot and no chance to slow enough not to take out Sides and sure enough he took him out. If you mess with the bull you get the horn, Jason did the right thing and sent a loud and clear message. I told Netto's crew if you think this is the end of it "good luck"! there's a few more races left of West Coast so let's see what happens. I'm going to "Double Down" my money on the 7s. We shall see.
CAJ

sidewayz
March 18, 2013 at 04:03:51 AM
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Sides got schooled the night before in the B main by quote unquote a no name drive Cory Elliason... Then to have it done again a second night... What a true class act sides is. They already didnt pay him once.. I think a long sit down and showing whos boss is in order.... He should get on national radio and brag about this one... WHAT A CLOWN....




sidewayz
March 18, 2013 at 04:10:16 AM
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again we are talking about the B main.. sides didnt do diddly dog all weekend in tulare... PLEASE... maybe its time to pull out the pole and make some money haha... hope they dont let him race in stockton and chico this weekend



sidewayz
March 18, 2013 at 04:13:25 AM
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Posted By: ROTORGLOW on March 18 2013 at 12:43:52 AM
Jason had a transfer locked in when the kid "Netto" driving over his head all night went to the bottom way to hot and no chance to slow enough not to take out Sides and sure enough he took him out. If you mess with the bull you get the horn, Jason did the right thing and sent a loud and clear message. I told Netto's crew if you think this is the end of it "good luck"! there's a few more races left of West Coast so let's see what happens. I'm going to "Double Down" my money on the 7s. We shall see.


your right, cause he pulled the same kinda stuff after a yellow with meyers years back.. someone needs to teach this guy a lesson...



rervousneck
March 18, 2013 at 10:41:44 AM
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I'm not jumping in on this debate any more than to say the following: Regardless of your side of the issue (which is obvious, I know), your credibility level is immediately apparent.
  


bmd5229
March 18, 2013 at 10:52:29 AM
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The original poster was me. I am not from California, as you can tell from my picture of Hodnett. I am from PA, was listening to dirt vision and was just curious since I could not see the video. Didnt mean to cause a huge blow up over simple question, its ridiculous. A shame people cant have a debate over something without cussing and name calling and what not.



rervousneck
March 18, 2013 at 11:26:14 AM
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Dr. Phil... haha.
  



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