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August 24, 2010 at
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This car made quite a few lifelong fans, the Shot Hampton 94. Being restored today in North Carolina. 48cc Twin Webbers, and yes she ran hard and won.
Cars like these make me want to drive them. It turns out many I have run across over the few years feel the same way. There is a forgotten, somewhat untapped market of fans for this route.
These pictures I'm getting from racingfromthepast.com
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August 24, 2010 at
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What you end up with is
Sprint Car + jalopy+ street rod+midget+ vintage= Dirt supermodified
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August 24, 2010 at
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Motorcycle engines in dirt cars? Nope, would rather watch school buses racing. Its that buzzing, sounds like a bunch of bees, and 65mph, nope.
Lawlessness + liberalism = HELL - NYC, Detroit, Chicago,
Seattle, LA Who the H runs those cities.
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August 24, 2010 at
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Maybe they (Ray) learned from the mistakes of the Thunder cars. I think a sealed 1200cc motor is really the best idea for the class. It seems to be working REAL well in the current legends series that just recently had the Million dollar purse race a Charlotte. If they run on mostly smaller, 1/4 up to a max 1/3 mile track than that would be more than enough if not too much power. Your talking about a non-wing narrow race car that would be hard to hook up anyway. I do have to question the need for the class in the first place. Why not just try and expand the current legend cars to more markets? Are these cars supposed to help bridge the gap between legends and midgets and minisprints? Someone mentioned "where are these drivers going to come from". That would be my question. If it is a truely entry level class than what are Mini-sprints and the current Legend cars?
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August 24, 2010 at
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That gold 56 cars sends chills up my back.
Where/when was that picture taken & Whose car & what kind is it ???
I tell ya, with the closing /demolition of Fairgrounds Speedway in Okla City this past month, my appreciation for this type of cars is higher than in the past
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August 24, 2010 at
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That Early 70's Nance is a pretty, pretty Race Car. I love the Supers.
"Sprint Cars are made to go fast. The faster you go,
the better they feel." - Hoyett Hodnett
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August 25, 2010 at
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Posted By: mjm sleepy on August 24 2010 at 10:43:41 PM
That gold 56 cars sends chills up my back.
Where/when was that picture taken & Whose car & what kind is it ???
I tell ya, with the closing /demolition of Fairgrounds Speedway in Okla City this past month, my appreciation for this type of cars is higher than in the past
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The 56 car was out of Albequerque, late 60s, early 70's. It was a Nance. That's all I know.
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August 25, 2010 at
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To anyone here on the east coast, does this not look like one of those "Tobias SpeedSTRs" that Ray has a couple of? Seems very close with a different body on them. Just an observation, but what do ya think?
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August 25, 2010 at
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This is not about racing, its all about how much money can Bruton and Ray pocket. If they could sell motorized toilet bowl racing to enough people to make a profit, they would.
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August 25, 2010 at
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Posted By: Tail Tank on August 25 2010 at 01:11:41 PM
To anyone here on the east coast, does this not look like one of those "Tobias SpeedSTRs" that Ray has a couple of? Seems very close with a different body on them. Just an observation, but what do ya think?
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Could be . The STRs have been quiet this year, maybe this is a repackaging?
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August 25, 2010 at
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Posted By: pittmanfan on August 25 2010 at 01:23:43 PM
This is not about racing, its all about how much money can Bruton and Ray pocket. If they could sell motorized toilet bowl racing to enough people to make a profit, they would.
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Good shit sells. That's the American way, and Americans are free to deny.
Can somebody please tell me WHEN it became wrong to make a buck from racing? I missed the boat on that one.
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August 25, 2010 at
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Seems the SpeedSTRs never really got going real strong here. I have seen them run a few times as a support division, and they were not that exciting to watch. I was thinking the same, a repackage....or a copy! I havent seen any releases from either camp, so maybe its just a coincidence.
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August 25, 2010 at
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Brian 26
Seems the SpeedSTRs never really got going real strong here. I have seen them run a few times as a support division, and they were not that exciting to watch. I was thinking the same, a repackage....or a copy! I havent seen any releases from either camp, so maybe its just a coincidence.
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I think you're onto something. If that's the case, could've been a quiet agreement made between the two. I am not "in the know". I'm just nosey when it comes to anything 'supermodified'.
Tobias and Evernham are modified guys from the NE. I do know they are friends with racers here in the midwest. It could be an effort to save the basic idea and repackage it.
By the way, I don't hate sprint cars. I just think they may be a bit too pure a race car, and possibly too many for the average Joe on the street.
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August 26, 2010 at
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TOBIAS CAPTURES SPEEDSTR NIGHT 1 OF ALL-STAR WEEKEND AT CAYUGA COUNTY ..
Rich "Toby" Tobias picked off the Friday night All-Star SpeedSTR Feature
at Cayuga County Speedway. Rich out lasted the 22 car field for the win.
Photo by Jay Fish © 2010
22 SpeedSTR's signed in to compete at the Cayuga County Speedway All-star Weekend event in Weedsport, NY.
North East point leader Mario Page (Hillsborough, NJ) and RevStar Co-Owner Carl Labonte (Drummondville, Qc, Canada), who set fast time during qualifying, lead the historic field of 22 STR's to the green flag on the opening night of All-star Weekend in conjunction with the DIRT Modifieds. Page and Labonte put on a hair raising wheel to wheel battle during the opening laps with Kyle Hieber (Langhorne, PA) lurking in the tracks of the two leaders, while the Kiwi Farms 33 of Doug Sherwood (Piscataway, NJ) and the 2 of Richie Tobias (Hershey, PA) were charging towards the front. The top 5 was heated with Tobias racing above the cushion, Sherwood down on the hub, and Page, Hieber, and Labonte searching the cushion.
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Kenney Johnson shown above in his self-owned
#46 SpeedSTR made the trip from Connecticut.
Photo by Jay Fish © 2010
At the midway point of the race Tobias and Page had swapped the lead and a little paint several times. On lap 11 Tobias secured the point as the 33 of Sherwood continued to work the bottom. Lap 13 would see Sherwood scoot by the point leader of Page. Page would battle back lap after lap on the high side only to have Sherwood pull in front off each corner. Now enter Yannick Poirier (Beloeil, Qc, Canada) and Chris Stockham (Cicero, NY) in the Valvoline #3 into the battle for the top 5. Hieber and Labonte who ran solidly up front all race long had the duo charging from behind.
Tobias would take the victory with Sherwood edging out Page for second followed by Hieber, and Poirier. Tobias exclaimed in victory lane how excited he was not only to win the race but how exciting it was to have 22 STR's participate in this great event. "We have worked hard to build this series and I am so proud of everyone that has decided this is the car for them. This is a win for everyone tonight."
STR Notes: National Point Leader Gabriel Richer (Les Coteaux, Qc, Canada) had a rough night getting upside down early in the event. The Richer crew worked through out the night to get ready for night 2 of competition. Kaitie McCardle secured yet another great run, finishing in the top 10.
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Milford NJ's Tyler Potts is hard on the gas
during his heat race action at Cayuga County.
Photo by Jay Fish © 2010
Valvoline Synthetic VR1 dash 1 winner: Mario Page
Valvoline Synthetic VR1 dash 2 winner: Richie Tobias
Bilstein Racing Shocks National Event Feature Results (20 laps): 1. Richie Tobias (Thompson Motorsports 2, Hershey, PA) ($800.00), 2. Doug Sherwood (Kiwi Farms 33, Piscataway, NJ), 3. Mario Page (Izzi Trucking 10, Hillsborough, NJ), 4. Kyle Hieber (Bucks County International 66, Langhorne, PA), 5. Yannick Poirier (Poirier Motorsports 28, Beloeil, Qc, Canada), 6. Carl Labonte (RevStar 24, Drummondville, Qc, Canada), 7. Chris Stockham (Valvoline VR1, Cicero, NY), 8. Don Zrinski (Kiwi Farms 75, Piscataway, NJ), 9. Mike Mahaney (Thompson Motorsports 5, Lebanon, PA), 10. Kaitie McCardle (McCardle Motorsports 11, Honeybrook, PA), 11. Scott Munroe (Bull Dog Racing 14, Reading, PA), 12. Brandon Rahmer (Rahmer Motorsports 8, Salfordville, PA), 13. DJ Macri (Johnny Muffler 28, Waretown, NJ), 14. Jeff Gallup (Gallup Racing 9, Baldwinsville, NY), 15. Daniel Nadeau (Nadeau Racing 54, Marieville, Qc, Canada), 16. Tyler Potts (THP Racing 12, Milford, NJ), 17. Freddie Rahmer Jr. (Rahmer Team 51, Salfordville, PA), 18. Jean-Nicholas Gareau (Gareau Motorsports 53, St-Hyacinthe, Qc, Canada), 19. Justin Thompson (Scrappy's DR56, Lebanon, PA), 20. Kenney Johnson (Johnson Racing 46, CT), 21. Gabriel Richer (Groupe Richer Racing 10X, Les Coteaux, Qc, Canada), 22. Brittany Wixon (Wixon Racing 15, Reading, PA).
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August 26, 2010 at
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Posted By: pittmanfan on August 25 2010 at 01:23:43 PM
This is not about racing, its all about how much money can Bruton and Ray pocket. If they could sell motorized toilet bowl racing to enough people to make a profit, they would.
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I think they should do it for no money
How dare they try to make money
I think all the promoters should put on racing at a loss so I could go for less money and then when they all went broke I could, I guess that won't work will it
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August 26, 2010 at
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I guess The ideer of the Speedstr being dead was just not true.
Sorry Richie, we hadn't heard anything lately.
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August 26, 2010 at
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Posted By: vanh on August 26 2010 at 07:21:19 PM
I think they should do it for no money
How dare they try to make money
I think all the promoters should put on racing at a loss so I could go for less money and then when they all went broke I could, I guess that won't work will it
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Maybe we should start a thread asking why it is wrong for anybody to be profitable in racing.
I mean this isn't the first time I have heard this, maybe we're missing something.
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August 27, 2010 at
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Nothing wrong with making a profit. I want my track and my local builder to make a profit. This way they will stay in business.
HOWEVER, I have no desire to purchase a car that I can only get from one supplier, and if I get creative and build my own car that it is not legal in that series. How many sprint car chassis are there? How many modified chassis are there? IMCA rotinely gets bashed for "spec" parts with an IMCA stamp. Just imagine if the the entire car had to have be stamped.
I would much rather support my local car builder than some multi-millionare from NC.
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August 27, 2010 at
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check these out, built in Colorado
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August 27, 2010 at
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The Jet Coupe is a nice looking car.
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