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Yes the three day event could have be narrowed to Friday and Saturday to stay out of the heat of Sunday afternoon, and I would agree with that. The car count was probably down in large part due to $4 gas and the fact that it was 100+ degrees well into the evening.

#85 Limited Mod!! THAT JUST HAPPENED!!!

they did it (tore em down) out in elk city - and it was hotter. if thats the case dude - than maybe they should think about not running day races................

the heat is something that goes right along with dirt track racing. no one likes it - but frankly its better than rain aint it. it just shouldnt be used as an excuse to not ensure a fair race.

no matter how you slice it - that race a HUGE flop. what other excuses will you make? first you basically said everyone should lay off because he is your friend - which is great for you but you shouldnt expect that to make him closed to skepticism or criticism from others. and now you're talkin bout the heat being the reason for not checkin to see if the car was legal. so basically - "it was hot and he's my friend - leave it alone"........................... thats still as funny now as it was yesterday when i read it............

"Alot of people dont like Jonnie because he has won alot of races and I have to say at one time I didnt, but after getting to know him I consider him one of my best friends, so please give them a break."

ok George Bush.

"Like I said get a race car and then if you made it in the top five, lets see how you feel about well over 100 degress in the barn to rip your motor apart"

probably not any worse than putting that racing suit on and gettin the car for 30-45 minutes. if you can take that - than you should be able to take the extra time for the track to make sure they had a legal car win their race. other tracks and drivers go the extra mile to do it ------ what makes ya'll so special that you shouldnt?

about the only thing you can say to me - is that no i wasnt there. i'm glad i wasnt. we were in knoxville iowa watching 100+ sprints run. IN THE EVENING like smart people (and even up there sunday was sweltering hot). but I am on here reading your posts. and neither are valid at all. they are excuses. I dont even know what car you are talkin about - but both your posts are not real reasons to dispell anyone from being critical. in fact - to the intelligent - your last 2 posts appear to justify the criticism completely. for what it is worth - - i aplogize for already knowing the 1 and only possible impression you'll take from this. contrary to appearances - i am not trying to be disrespectful. you may take it that way - but its really just an opinion and not a personal one at that. for what its worth. you are more than welcome to tee off and prove my opinion wrong......

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

bossman - lookin at what usmts gets for their mod shows. and what NCRA gets for their mod shows - and what Boone Iowa gets for theirs, and what the Harris Clash at knoxville had for theirs - and really just about EVERYWHERE...........

it aint the gas prices. i would say it was the 3 days (4 if u practiced) - and the purse was actually no good unless u were in the front of the field. thats a lot of dough to spend on gas, entry fee, and tires and car maintenance - and your car is hitting the track A LOT - but yet only saturday really paid anything - and on the lower end the purse sucked. we aint even talkin bout hotel and food and pit passes and other stuff. that purse was designed for the big hitters and even they didnt show. screw that - they would do better to try to get all the regional guys. from oklahoma, texas, KS. and if the biggins what to come cool - and if not - o well - it will still be a killer show.

they would do well in the future to cut the winners purse down a lot and stick that dough on the bottom of the purse - and make it a 2 day show - not 3. o yeah - and run both races AT NIGHT too. take a good look at what NCRA gets, or just at all specials and tracks in this kansas/oklahoma area - as well as the dozens of local tracks. it wasnt just the major players that didnt come ------- it was the locals and regional guys too.

but we are talkin bout a track that when some extra money became avaliable for a weekly show - instead of putting it in the overall purse for all to have a shot at - held a grudge race in which they HAND PICKED - who would be in it. and of course it was predicatble who they would put in it. timms, ramirez, etc. etc. what kind of message does that send to the other guys there that night to support the weekly show? they were shut out and shit on with no chance at that extra money ------ instead the chance was given mostly to those who did not need it - and thats the damn truth.not saying it applies to all who were in that race - but to the majority it does apply.

now i'm wandering why i'm even teeing off on this modified stuff - damn it I'm a sprint car FANatic.

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

I don't think hudsonparts is starting any bull!!!!  I think there just saying if you make rules stick by them. 

What I am trying to say is WE ALL should suport all of are tracks and not bash them. The gas prices are killing the local tracks and then people have to go and run there trapss putting them down. Enid is not the only one on here that I have read about. If you love racing we all should promote it before there is not any place to race anymore. Yes it was to hot, the gas prices, and other racer not showing up because they were in a point hunt at there local track. Lonnie gave it a shot and it may not of worked like we hoped, but he did try. Lets all help the Oklahoma tracks, and not bash them Please.

JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

That is true that we should support our local tracks when they are trying to help promote racin {It's a little harder to support a track that dosent listen to Driver feedback thou, I think you know who I'm talkin about}. Enid tried this show with somewhat the same deal as last time with a few exceptions. Didnt make the cars run 2 heat races, added money at the bottom, opened up a few rules for all Drivers if they wanted to put on extra sheet metal. I'm sure that these changes came from Drivers that voiced their opinion and they tried what they thought was best. This show could be just as succesful with a $5000 to win and maybe a dash for cash on the first night as well as making it a 2 day show {3 with practice}. I for one hope Lonnie keeps trying to improve this show, it is a good deal with a little more polishing needed!

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

BobcatJD You are what I am talking about you are a true FAN and we need more people like you around here. Thanks for your input and support of local tracks, Thanks

JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

Thank you Blue72, thats basically what i was saying , i dont really care who won the race, and as far as dirtrack234 this is Van , and Jack has nothing to do with my comments, but i dont have a problem with people on here knowing who i am, didnt say anything on here im ashamed of or isnt the truth , now lets see if you want to say who you are.By the way you said i was running mouth , well then let me run it again , for everyone that misssed the USMTS show at 81 Speedway tuesday night , you all missed a great night of racing with 59 cars for only $2,000 to win and $10.00 admission, and alot of side by side and 3 wide racing

Well Van I am Jimmy Minter and you can find me at Enid in turns 1 and 2 flagging, If you want to come by and talk you know were to find me. And I still say we all need to stick to promoting are tracks and not bashing them or anyone else. Hope to see you tomorrow. Aand all you okla city guys thought SSF promotor sucked....just my 2 cents, That is what you said in your first blog and what I am referring to.

JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

Dont really think i was bashing, i was just making a comment and voicing my opinion as well as every else does on here , this is a forum ,right, and as far as Enid goes i have supported them for years , our family has been involved in racing at enid since 1955 up till now,dad started as car owner in the 50s and then i picked up where he left off and now he is still involved with the gemmills in which he is with them in Hutchison Kansas tonight racing and Dodge City Ks. tomorrow night so i have seen alot of racing thru the years at enid ,and will still go racing at enid, but was just making a comment on what i read and saw, thats all , cut and dry, and i have never heard of you ,but glad to know you have an opinion also thats what forum boards are all about,if we all had the same opinion, no need to post on here, well thats all im going to say on the subject, that was last week this is a new weekend of racing , im off to monette on sunday for the USMTS show there...

Thanks for repling and I have alot of respect for the Gemmills and you are right everyone does have a right to voice there opinion. I just love my track and anything that has to do with it. But I still think we all should try and do are best to keep racing around. Good luck to you and the Gemmills this weekend, Jimmy

JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

OKCfan-- Did you not read my post RIGHT above yours? I would have loved for the race to be a two day show in the EVENINGS not in the middle of the heat on sunday afternoon and I said I agreed to that, that is probably a huge reason for the sub-par car count. And as far as what the series get for thier shows, of course they are gonna get plenty of cars, that is a series and they are racing for points. Enid was a one weekend show and since it turned out to be the hottest weekend of the year, I'm sure that not a lot of people wanted to come spend three or four days in the 100+ heat.

I agree that they needed to spred the purse out a little bit better in order to get more cars to come that were thinking they may not be able to win it, but they could make the A and place well to get a good payday. I have no complaints with that, and it probably would have helped.

As far as Elliot being my friend and telling everybody to lay off him, BS. He is a friend of mine, but if I thought that his motor was illegal and thats why he won I would have been the first one to say tear it apart. I hate cheating and if I thought that there was even a slight chance of it being illegal I would have wanted it tore down, but being that he is a hell of a driver and has won all over the place, and his motor gets taken apart all the time, why on earth would he cheat. As for Elk City being hotter, get a grip! It was in the 90's at Elk City and it was in the 100's at Enid not to mention at Elk you took your car apart outside in the breeze and at Enid you were under the stands in the oven that is the tech garage.

#85 Limited Mod!! THAT JUST HAPPENED!!!

I will say this, and all of you are allowed to voice your opinions, but Lonnie and Longpine are the only promoters with enough courage to put on a big money race like this and I hear they are going to do it again. At least they are trying to get big money modified races here in this state where two others are now defunct (Clinton/SFS-Xtreme). At least they are willing to tweak their deal to hopefully make it better and better. Rome wasn't built in a day.

As far as the teching is concerned, I have heard from several drivers who were there competing and it was all agreed that it was just too hot in the building for tech and they ALL agreed not to do any of that. This is the drivers who competed the whole weekend so if your going to blame anybody for no teching then blame those drivers.

We need more promoters in this state to take a chance and host something like this. I personally would like to see two, $5000 to win shows back to back on Friday and Saturday night but whatever is run, I will do my upmost to support and help advertise it.

There is enough bashing and this and that and I am not talking on this-the largest racing website in Oklahoma. I am talking on ALL message boards as it is continuous, whatever website you frequent.

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

I'm the crew chief for the #05 sportmod and we finished second to the #19 robert Elliott. I don't know him at all (want everyone to know this) and as the top 5 cars were in the barn he stated that he would tear his motor completely apart, if just one driver thought he was cheating. I thought for this situation, the track absolutely made the correct call. If you wasn't in the barn there is no way you would understand about the heat.

As for the show as whole, sure there could be improvements, as I'm sure there will be. Where else in Oklahoma can you race for that kind of money?

I believe that we should all thank the promoters at Enid Speedway! If you knew them at all, you would know that they work very hard to give the guys a place to race and they make changes to improve thier shows. I have been a race fan since the 70's and these guys are going in the right direction!

Jayson Ellis

why dont yall quit your crying Robert is a good driver and everything on his car is Legal ive saw it .yall just need to get up on the wheel and drive your car like Robert does. it mite just work if yall think he is illegal just look at his car when its tore apart after he wins again.

We were fortunant to be one of the cars Weder ran over at Enid. It seems his home track so nothing happens to him. What he done to us, had the roles been reversed we'd have been black flagged.

We loaded 2 very torn up race cars at Enid, one was brand new.

THANKS TOM TOM!

EDDIE MARTIN
C.E.O. BIG CHIEF RACING CHASSIS
(918) 905-0478

Eddie, we were parked in 1&2 and there was alot of cars torn up. both going into 2 and coming off of 2. also going into and coming off of 3.....you and the 5x Mod had the fastest cars in the corners and if it would have lasted according to the lap times in the corner it would have been an awesome race between you two. You both ran clean until .... well you already know that outcome.....

I noiticed that there wasn't anyone watching those corners and alot of cheap shots happened in those corners...its hard to see from flagstand because of the big haulers that they have there and the corner guys were looking into turn 1 and turn 4 most of the time so it left turn 2 and 3 uncovered.... same thing happened in the sports mod,. our car was flat driven into and drove off of turn #3 and no one saw it either.... by the same car that tore up alot of cars in that class.... But we fixed it and went to Amarillo the next weekend, had an awesome time there.

But you know and we know that thats the way racing goes.... your a great driver, no one can take that away from you. You've proven yourself all over the Mid USA.