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May 11, 2008 at
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Posted By: ministock05 on May 11 2008 at 11:09:36 PM
Your right I shouldnt of acted like that I let my anger get the best of me and then realized it and that is why I shook mikes hand and thought it over at that until I get on here and read kel1234 post
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At least you admit it, and acted mature enough to go shake his hand. Sounds like everything was settled between the 2 of you at the track, and that's all that matters in the end. Let the rest go.
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Posted By: ministock05 on May 11 2008 at 11:19:58 PM
Well that could be but he was running high and i made the pass on the inside and if i did slide up why not use the brakes to keep from us hitting the wall
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accidents happen when you race.... maybe he didn't have enough time to apply the breaks there's a million things that could of happened, as the saying goes.... sh** happens... both of y'all walked away from it with no injuries and thats the really the only thing that matters......
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Posted By: sweetndndgirl on May 11 2008 at 10:34:27 PM
watchin from the stands how do you get that dustin caused the wreck. when 01 went high, he went low and was hit hit in the rear and was put in the wall...end of story! you are an 01 fan so of course your going to say dustin caused the wreck. everyone has a right to their own opinion, but to get online and start talking trash is kind of ridiculous don't you think? all you're doing is starting something that doesn't need to be started.
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and what are you solving by getting on here and posting your reply???
practise what you preach.....
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May 11, 2008 at
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Im glad Mike was not hurt I have a fractured thumb and a broken finger if there is a next time remember to let go of steering wheel
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May 12, 2008 at
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Not only did dustan not cause the wreck but he wouldn't have done it
on purpose (thats not what he is about). You might tell mike that the
middle pedal is called a brake and he might try using it sometime
maybe he wouldn't hit everything or everbody next to him!
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Posted By: sooner on May 12 2008 at 01:59:49 AM
Not only did dustan not cause the wreck but he wouldn't have done it
on purpose (thats not what he is about). You might tell mike that the
middle pedal is called a brake and he might try using it sometime
maybe he wouldn't hit everything or everbody next to him!
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Why don't you put who you are. It looks like you joined just so you could bash Mike. The rest of us on here pretty much know who is who no one is hiding there name.
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May 12, 2008 at
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"All this bad attitude is playing a major role in the bad car counts and spectator numbers."
DRIVERS aren't responsible for low car counts, GAS prices are. If spectators knew what went on in the pits, they'd understand a bit more of the drivers side of the coin.
Lanny Edwards has a way to improve car counts, at least in the FS class, but he's waiting on next year. Must be awful exciting watching 10 or so cars battle for the Track Championship.
Dustin Southerland, my good friend, you know I have been driving home 4 1/2 hours to race, since Lanny the ONLY 2 112 inch wheelbased ruled track in the state. My bro in law said pull your car up there with mine and run the Mini class at Crawford County Speedway, they have an awesome car count, awesome competition, and to me its worth driving the 4 1/2 hours, hook up to my car and go racing. Leaving the car there saves on my pulling expense because the track is 45 mins away.
OH and THE PROMOTERS LISTEN TO THE DRIVERS THERE, NOT TALK DOWN TO THEM AS A KING WOULD A PEASANT.
EDDIE MARTIN
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Posted By: Big Chief Team 51 on May 12 2008 at 10:02:59 AM
"All this bad attitude is playing a major role in the bad car counts and spectator numbers."
DRIVERS aren't responsible for low car counts, GAS prices are. If spectators knew what went on in the pits, they'd understand a bit more of the drivers side of the coin.
Lanny Edwards has a way to improve car counts, at least in the FS class, but he's waiting on next year. Must be awful exciting watching 10 or so cars battle for the Track Championship.
Dustin Southerland, my good friend, you know I have been driving home 4 1/2 hours to race, since Lanny the ONLY 2 112 inch wheelbased ruled track in the state. My bro in law said pull your car up there with mine and run the Mini class at Crawford County Speedway, they have an awesome car count, awesome competition, and to me its worth driving the 4 1/2 hours, hook up to my car and go racing. Leaving the car there saves on my pulling expense because the track is 45 mins away.
OH and THE PROMOTERS LISTEN TO THE DRIVERS THERE, NOT TALK DOWN TO THEM AS A KING WOULD A PEASANT.
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Come race at Meeker....... Min wheelbase there is 108".
Here's an except from the rules available at brillmotorspeedway.com :
| CAR & BODY: 1. Must be rear wheel drive, front engine, American made passenger cars. Any type steel or aluminum bodies that fit wheel base. Must have stock appearing nosepiece. No late model or slopped front end allowed.
2. Minimum wheel base 108 inches.
3. Minimum weight 3200 pounds with driver. Cars may be weighed at any time. Fluid or parts lost during a race may not be added to make weight. All weights must be doubled nut or welded. At least two bolts, double nut is mandatory. All weights must be painted white and displayed car number.
4. ALL cars must be stock. Frame and body must be stock. NO interchanging components. Original forging and casting marks cannot be removed, altered or covered.
5. Car must have 4” minimum ground clearance.
6. All glass and flammable material must be removed. Cover headlight and tail light holes with sheet metal. Plastic trim, chrome trim and door handles must be removed. No rearview mirrors. No transmitting or listing devices in car.
7. Door must be welded 12” front and rear or bolted using backing plates and a minimum of four bolts per side.
8. Must have stock front firewall and sheet metal rear firewall between trunk and drivers compartment. Holes must be covered. Driver compartment can remain open or it may be boxed in.
9. Stock dash may be replaced with sheet metal in stock location – no sharp edges.
10. Windshield screen required and must be full-width extending from windshield post to windshield post and full height from cowl to car top. Maximum screen opening is 2” x 4”.
11. May run 5 inch hood scoop and a 5 inch spoiler. Spoiler sides can be from 5 inch and taper to l inch.
12. Must have stock front firewall and sheet metal rear firewall between trunk and drivers compartment. Holes must be covered. Driver compartment can remain open or it may be boxed in.
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Posted By: Big Chief Team 51 on May 12 2008 at 10:02:59 AM
"All this bad attitude is playing a major role in the bad car counts and spectator numbers."
DRIVERS aren't responsible for low car counts, GAS prices are. If spectators knew what went on in the pits, they'd understand a bit more of the drivers side of the coin.
Lanny Edwards has a way to improve car counts, at least in the FS class, but he's waiting on next year. Must be awful exciting watching 10 or so cars battle for the Track Championship.
Dustin Southerland, my good friend, you know I have been driving home 4 1/2 hours to race, since Lanny the ONLY 2 112 inch wheelbased ruled track in the state. My bro in law said pull your car up there with mine and run the Mini class at Crawford County Speedway, they have an awesome car count, awesome competition, and to me its worth driving the 4 1/2 hours, hook up to my car and go racing. Leaving the car there saves on my pulling expense because the track is 45 mins away.
OH and THE PROMOTERS LISTEN TO THE DRIVERS THERE, NOT TALK DOWN TO THEM AS A KING WOULD A PEASANT.
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All this bad attitude is playing a major role in the bad car counts and spectator numbers
You are referring to my comment. As a matter of fact it does too play a role. There are several drivers who started going to other tracks because of their fellow competitors bs and some of them are still running at a "Lanny" track. As a driver you get tired of being pushed and banged around by the same people every weekend or listening to their mouths that talk more than they should. If you don't get along with your fellow competitors, then what are you going to do? Go someplace else where you feel more comfortable. Chasing off your fellow drivers, chases off their fan base. This has been going on since before the gas prices became a big issue. My opinion, the ones who like to jump and start fights or run their mouths are the ones who can't handle competition.
Christina
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""This has been going on since before the gas prices became a big issue. My opinion, the ones who like to jump and start fights or run their mouths are the ones who can't handle competition.""
...........and you drive what?
I'll speak on Dustins behalf, watched him race all last year, and a few weeks this year. He isn't a dirty driver, and surely isn't a driver to go to the track on a weekly bassis looking to have his car looking like it did after the race night Saturday.
As far as, "the ones who like to jump and start fights or run their mouths are the ones who can't handle competition", your barking up the wrong tree here, I live for competition!
EDDIE MARTIN
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Posted By: Big Chief Team 51 on May 12 2008 at 08:11:12 PM
""This has been going on since before the gas prices became a big issue. My opinion, the ones who like to jump and start fights or run their mouths are the ones who can't handle competition.""
...........and you drive what?
I'll speak on Dustins behalf, watched him race all last year, and a few weeks this year. He isn't a dirty driver, and surely isn't a driver to go to the track on a weekly bassis looking to have his car looking like it did after the race night Saturday.
As far as, "the ones who like to jump and start fights or run their mouths are the ones who can't handle competition", your barking up the wrong tree here, I live for competition!
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Evidently you are getting my posts confused with others on here. Where did I say anything about Dustins driving?
Do I necessarily have to drive something to have an opinion? No, I don't. You don't know anything about me, nor I you. But I will say you do contradict yourself.
He isn't a dirty driver, and surely isn't a driver to go to the track on a weekly basis looking to have his car looking like it did after the race night Saturday.
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your barking up the wrong tree here, I live for competition!
As far as I know, Dustin doesn't leave the track every week with his car looking like that. So are you saying that after one incident that you would quit racing there? But if you live for competition, then why would one incident make you go someplace else? At least that's the impression I'm getting from you. Also if I'm not mistaken, aren't you fairly new to the area? I'm not. I was practically born at Lawton Speedway and have been around racing all my life with pretty much every class of car. I have seen the affects of the bad attitudes over the years.
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I was born and raised around racing as well, I ain't going to get into a pissing contest with you over knowledge of the sport. My Big Brother is Nationally known and I'm in my second year of driving, so like you I've been around every class of car from Mini Stocks to Late Models, No I'm not really new to the area, been here over a year, and as you know from being around racing all our lives, we can READ what others say and picture it both ways in our minds.
I wouldn't quit after one incident, I'd fix it or build another if the funds were readily available.
I've probably seen and can match everything you have seen and heard, kind of goes with us kids raised around racing. HEHEHE
I don't dislike you, just stating my opinion as you are. I don't think the area, being new or not has much to do with it, racing is racing, just different drivers and locations is all.
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""This has been going on since before the gas prices became a big issue. My opinion, the ones who like to jump and start fights or run their mouths are the ones who can't handle competition.""
...........and you drive what?
I was just asking what you drove. Pretty simple question.
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""I'll speak on Dustins behalf, watched him race all last year, and a few weeks this year. He isn't a dirty driver, and surely isn't a driver to go to the track on a weekly bassis looking to have his car looking like it did after the race night Saturday.""
Wasn't directed totally at you as you took it, I was just stating my observation. You and I aren't the only one replying to this thread.
EDDIE MARTIN
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Posted By: Big Chief Team 51 on May 12 2008 at 09:22:39 PM
I was born and raised around racing as well, I ain't going to get into a pissing contest with you over knowledge of the sport. My Big Brother is Nationally known and I'm in my second year of driving, so like you I've been around every class of car from Mini Stocks to Late Models, No I'm not really new to the area, been here over a year, and as you know from being around racing all our lives, we can READ what others say and picture it both ways in our minds.
I wouldn't quit after one incident, I'd fix it or build another if the funds were readily available.
I've probably seen and can match everything you have seen and heard, kind of goes with us kids raised around racing. HEHEHE
I don't dislike you, just stating my opinion as you are. I don't think the area, being new or not has much to do with it, racing is racing, just different drivers and locations is all.
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""This has been going on since before the gas prices became a big issue. My opinion, the ones who like to jump and start fights or run their mouths are the ones who can't handle competition.""
...........and you drive what?
I was just asking what you drove. Pretty simple question.
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""I'll speak on Dustins behalf, watched him race all last year, and a few weeks this year. He isn't a dirty driver, and surely isn't a driver to go to the track on a weekly bassis looking to have his car looking like it did after the race night Saturday.""
Wasn't directed totally at you as you took it, I was just stating my observation. You and I aren't the only one replying to this thread.
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I totally agree with you, and have nothing against you. It's actually hard to understand what one means when it's just words compared to a face to face conversation. Gestures and facial expressions tell a lot.
As for my implying about you not from being around here, I wasn't trying to say you don't know anything about racing. Kudos on the racing background! Just that I've been around Lawton and have talked to people and personally seen/involved with what has gone on through the years. Example...I happened to find one of my programs from 2001 and it greatly upset me...
Total of 33 champs sprints listed, mini stocks had 66, mods had 51, and factory had 71. All pretty good numbers except the champs as it was a low year for them. All with a good number of them running consistently. The number of cars running consistently has been dropping over the last few years, and yes this year has been hit hardest. Overall the numbers have gone up and down depending on the class. Of course I'm talking about at Lawton and not everywhere else. Many of the drivers are still running, but at other tracks. Is it only just about fuel prices or getting tired of other peoples crap? Bad blood, favouritism, cooler weather, or just a combo of everything rolled together? We don't know for sure as everybody has their own reasons, and yes right now fuel is a big one. Sadly if we want to keep racing alive, we are going to have to work through it as it doesn't look like there is going to be an end in the price gouging anytime soon. Anymore it seems like if the winds blows, it gives them an excuse to raise fuel prices. There is also the issue of drivers changing classes. Some are trying to move up, and I guess some are waiting for the limited mods to get going. Either way it looks as if it's a season of change for all and it sucks for all at all tracks.
As for what I drive...it's an F150 supercrew LOL!
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Well at least this wasnt a boring conversation kept us all up and busy. Almost got my frame straightened out thanks to Jeff. I was ready to give up on that car and run my old one should be ready this week or maybe next
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Posted By: ministock05 on May 12 2008 at 11:29:49 PM
Well at least this wasnt a boring conversation kept us all up and busy. Almost got my frame straightened out thanks to Jeff. I was ready to give up on that car and run my old one should be ready this week or maybe next
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That's the spirit LOL!
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I would like to start by saying ,yes I did get blacked flagged for tapping the 01 car and I apoligize to Mike if I scratched his car. I have been out there for eight years and have never had the black flag pointed at me, so don't get on the computer and act like me and the 5 car are out there trying to take people out! It wasn't like I took out the 01, I believed he finished third that night. So before you start calling people out for rough driving I think you should sit in the stands and enjoy the raw power of the mini stocks and leave the racing to the racers.
I have passed all the cars out there except you 2N and 01 is the hardest to get around, but that is his job. He should probley pick a line and stay in it!
No hard feelings towards anyone lets just keep up the hard racing!! Hope to see more cars next week!
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This Whole Thread is about Mini Cock I mean stock drivers? Just Joking guys.
The Deeper The Better. GO DEEP!
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Posted By: legalbeagle99 on May 13 2008 at 10:08:56 AM
I would like to start by saying ,yes I did get blacked flagged for tapping the 01 car and I apoligize to Mike if I scratched his car. I have been out there for eight years and have never had the black flag pointed at me, so don't get on the computer and act like me and the 5 car are out there trying to take people out! It wasn't like I took out the 01, I believed he finished third that night. So before you start calling people out for rough driving I think you should sit in the stands and enjoy the raw power of the mini stocks and leave the racing to the racers.
I have passed all the cars out there except you 2N and 01 is the hardest to get around, but that is his job. He should probley pick a line and stay in it!
No hard feelings towards anyone lets just keep up the hard racing!! Hope to see more cars next week!
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Sooner brought you into this with his comments I only told what happend. Sitting in the stands give a person a great view of the track and you see so much more then a driver on the track so with that said good luck to all Sat. night
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