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A decade ago, Brown was a strong contender to win the Nationals. But even back then, this board was detached from reality with the yearly posts that the Outlaw will have to step up their game if they want to beat Brownie at the Nationals. Now? It is amazing that the same delusion still gets posted on here 10 years in a row about Brown and the Nationals.

Didn't he spank everyone at Selinsgrove like a year or two  ago? And in that same stretch run top five a few other nights. Here I found a write up. Passed for the win on lap 13. Lead most of Port Royal till late. 

https://www.brianbrownracing.com/Article/1668/brian-brown-scores-three-consecutive-top-fives-including-victory-in-central-pennsylvania-tuscarora-next

Brown even holds the one lap record at Port Royal... you keyboard warriors are classic. 

Brian Brown is his own worst enemy when it comes to the Nationals. 

Brian Brown is a great ambassador for sprints. He's won multiple times, at many different tracks, is a model of how to run your own team, great with fans, great with sponsors, I could go on. 

IDK why some people get so butt hurt about throwing his name in the hat for potentialy winners at the Nationals. If you get upset about that, lets only include (3) people on the list of who can win Saturday night, or maybe we need to narrow that list down to (1) now. 

I think Brown won when the WOO was at Knoxville earlier in the year, but that's a single night. I think McCarl and Brown have the best shot to win it from the weekly racers, but yes would need some luck, in addition to everyone else in the field. 

Keep It Real

Agree.  I am not sure why the hatred runs so deep for a guy who does things the right way.  

This didn't age well, you're an idiot. 

Brown's window for winning the Nats is quickly closing.     IMO, if he ever wants a real chance at winning the Nats he needs to go out on the road with the WoO.

Just look at when Lasoski finally won the Nats, it wasn't until after he went out on the road full time for a year+ with the WoO and came into town with a team that had been winning WoO races all over the country.

Racing the weekly show at Knoxville is not an advantage for the Nationals.   There's way more cars, way more laps on the track, the races are longer (track goes away more), its just not at all comparable to a weekly race.     The June WoO show is much more comparable to a weekly race.

Brown is a welcomed driver in central pa. his merchandise sales proves that.  Over the years he has made the fall trek east one would think his showings would be much better. I compare many to Justin Peck,  that team rolls into central pa and consistency  places them running for wins a lot. This is what the 21 team seems to lack, at home come national time and out on the road. Do I think it's the pressure to do well, Yes. A normal conversation seems to be above most on here so go ahead call me your names. Have a good day.

I would agree with this. Don't think it'll happen whether due to desire or sponsorship obligations (who knows). But I do think running multiple shows weekly against the best keeps you on the very top of your game. It shows when you have an off night and where you can improve. In fact in Browns last weekly win at Knoxville he stated he didn't like the car they brought up there that week. He said it felt like they werent that good yet he stil won. I'm guessing if you bring a car like that vs the WoO on any given night your not sneaking away with a win with a little luck. 

At this point maybe Brown is chasing Danny's 110+ victories at Knoxville record? That's one that probably won't be beaten but more in reach for him than a Nationals win IMO. No matter what the future hold Brown has had a very successful career most would only ever dream of having.

I don't think people get upset by the constant Brown hype as much as they find it amusing and easy to criticize.  Because it follows the same pattern almost every year: Brown looks good in June, dominates locally in July, does well at the 360 Nats; install him as a favorite. 

If people dislike Brown it's likely because he never branched out to run the WoO when he clearly had the budget for it. Also he does things like leave Huset Nationals early even though he was qualified to run a 360 race closer to home. I don't have a dog in the fight other than my yearly amusement on Nationals predictions. 

That's the truth about Sammy. Heck sometimes it wasn't even his own fault! Goodyear seemed to be the gift that giveth him speed but then the gift that taketh it away. Fekt for him there. 

Should we be all over Balog for winning two Allstar races then dropping off to wax the IRA once again? Heck my brother in law doesn't mind cherry picking. Nothing is given anyhwere you go but I totally understand going where you feel like you would have more success even if it's lesser level. 

He was probly counting the money made from outperforming over 80 other guys at the Nationals. 

I agree with your points.

I do not root for one particular driver or team, I watch every race looking for the passes and moves, it ain't always at the front.

I don't buy much merch but I noticed BB on his off night in his merch. trailer chatting and signing autographs, he looked like he was having a good time.  

Meanwhile: Casey's is taking a run at a more national presence, just bought another 60 stores in the south, might that change BB's focus to a more national look? 

Name another driver/owner currently enjoying this much support and sucess. Heck, name another recent sucessful driver/owner with that much sponsorship that he (or her) isn't related to. He never seems to run out of equipment.

 Brian Brown can run anywhere he wants and does, almost like a business decision an owner makes. 

One more thought, I went to the Jackson Nationals in 2019, ran into BB on the Saturday night at the SuperAmerica buying chow for his crew for the ride home, he was just as outgoing and nice as he is on the podium. I think he actually might be a decent guy. 

He's ran well there. I think four years ago he won back to back All-Star races at Bedford & Selingsgrove, has sat on the pole of the National Open I believe, and been good at Port. Top 10 in the Tusky maybe a couple of times? Not bad for someone who's only there for a 1 1/2 months out of the year, with what is supposed to be the best local competition in the country. 

As far as Knoxville goes, that track is vastly different come Nationals week than it is the rest of year, seeing it weekly. It also takes quite a few more laps on it, so the pace at which it changes throughout the night is probably different also. Not that he shouldn't have a slight advantage, but no "local" has won Nationals. It doesn't present itself as an advantage, historically. Brown has come the closest to win while being a local, then T-Mac. 

I think he's still got a shot, yes. I don't think he should be one of the few favorites though. Qualified poorly and that was pretty much all she wrote. 

I would say no Jackson because he's getting ready to go to PA, and Jackson's racing surface is about as good as Husets. 

Any chance you can you give this topic a break ?