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August 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: onporch on August 20 2020 at 07:41:46 AM
Have you considered the possibility that Tony Stewart may be closer to this issue than you and that Tony may have more information than you ? Perhaps the real issue is that sponsors immediately say "is Kyle still suspended by NASCAR ?" and the conversation ends there and Tony is frustrated.
There is a reason that Tony chose those words and we should give him the benefit of the doubt. I think we can learn something from what he said.
I read NASCAR the twitter feed about once a week. They don't seem to be moving in the direction of forgiving Kyle Larson.... If I saw a "Welcome Back Kyle Larson" tweet I would suspect their Twitter account was hacked. It appears that NASCAR has moved on and they don't want any of the drama associated with Kyle Larson.
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You may absolutely be correct. He may have gotten all of that ironed out behind the scenes and the next step is getting Larson reinstated. I don't think reinstatement will be an issue. I think Nascar will wait to hear from an interested owner with an intersted sponsor first. Tony is a good voice to get that rolling for sure. But, Nascar would almost certainly not make the first move. Money does talk with Nascar (and all large businesses) and they will wait for someone to make the first move and proceed from there. Why would Nascar risk negative publicity in light of today's world? They will let the owner sign the deal contingent on Nascar's reinstatement. (whether that be made public or worked out behind closed doors) Then, they will announce he has completed all training, has reached an agreement with an owner, and will be reinstated on some sort of probation. All will be done with PR depts documentation from all parties.
This is of course just my opinion of how this will work out and I don't have inside information. But doesn't that kind of make sense? Nascar can play a game all they want like they don't want Larson back and make you believe they have moved on. However, trust me, they want Kyle back! Especially with the headlines he has been making with grass roots fans all over this country over the last few months. Don't let their silence fool you. $$$$ talks.
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August 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: egras on August 19 2020 at 07:16:17 PM
Pretty easy for everyone to keep saying "he should say screw Nascar and just run dirt-----he'll show 'em".........until you run those numbers by everyone. No way anyone with half a brain doesn't try to get back into Nascar at his age.
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Kyle should be back in NASCAR. He has paid for his remarks. We love Kyle on dirt, but he can make 10 times money at NASCAR. If NASCAR took everone out of NASCARS hall of fame that used that word, there would be almost no one left. It was wrong of Kyle, but to make it a death penalty is crazy.
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August 20, 2020 at
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I think Bubba Wallace plays a role in Kyle Larson returning to NASCAR. If Bubba comes out and says Kyle made a mistake and we need to give him another chance, Kyle is in.
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August 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: Efree on August 20 2020 at 11:38:05 AM
I think Bubba Wallace plays a role in Kyle Larson returning to NASCAR. If Bubba comes out and says Kyle made a mistake and we need to give him another chance, Kyle is in.
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https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29046096/kyle-larson-deserves-second-chance-using-racial-slur
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August 20, 2020 at
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Thanks for the link. I don't recall the exact timeline, but I think that video was pre-confederate flag ban, pre-noose incident, pre-Bubba Wallace BLM popularity. I think his endorsement means even more now. Is Bubba willing to get on the same stage with Kyle and say the same things he said back in April? If so, and the sponsors are willing to make Bubba part of Kyle's return, that may be enough for them to take a chance on him.
Bubba Wallace and Kyle Larson to SHR in 2021?
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August 20, 2020 at
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There's a whole bunch of sprint car teams that would like to see him back in NASCAR so they just might win a few races and make a little money. Just count-up all the money that went to him in the last two months - money that would have normally been spread around a little bit between Outlaw guys, Pennsylvania guys, wherever he goes guys.....
Far from maybe one NASCAR weekend but a bunch of sprint car money all to one guy.
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August 20, 2020 at
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I would bet Tony and Gene already have a plan and sponsor, just waiting in Nascar.
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August 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: Jack Black on August 20 2020 at 03:21:54 PM
I would bet Tony and Gene already have a plan and sponsor, just waiting in Nascar.
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Agree 100%....that is why you are now seeing a bunch of stories pop up on Kyle and how he made a mistake....The damage control PR machine has been set in motion. He was not coming back this season anyway, but I would imagine by November it will be announced that Kyle has been reinstated by NASCAR and has a deal in place to race in 2021. I am all for it, but just thankful we got to watch him racing on dirt all summer.
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Posted By: Efree on August 20 2020 at 11:38:05 AM
I think Bubba Wallace plays a role in Kyle Larson returning to NASCAR. If Bubba comes out and says Kyle made a mistake and we need to give him another chance, Kyle is in.
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You could be right. And don't be surprised if Nascar asks Bubba for a public endorsement. And I think he'll give it to him.
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August 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: Jack Black on August 20 2020 at 03:21:54 PM
I would bet Tony and Gene already have a plan and sponsor, just waiting in Nascar.
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This may be true but it's not Nascar's fault...............the headline reads "Kyle Larson Formally Requests Reinstatement From Nascar" I get what you're saying, but Kyle hadn't even requested it yet.
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I can't see him getting reinstated until next year, at the earliest
Better enjoy his dirt track heroics while we can!
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August 21, 2020 at
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I said the monday after when he got shit canned. He will be in the 14 carf next year and I stand by that.
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August 21, 2020 at
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Posted By: egras on August 20 2020 at 09:57:49 AM
You may absolutely be correct. He may have gotten all of that ironed out behind the scenes and the next step is getting Larson reinstated. I don't think reinstatement will be an issue. I think Nascar will wait to hear from an interested owner with an intersted sponsor first. Tony is a good voice to get that rolling for sure. But, Nascar would almost certainly not make the first move. Money does talk with Nascar (and all large businesses) and they will wait for someone to make the first move and proceed from there. Why would Nascar risk negative publicity in light of today's world? They will let the owner sign the deal contingent on Nascar's reinstatement. (whether that be made public or worked out behind closed doors) Then, they will announce he has completed all training, has reached an agreement with an owner, and will be reinstated on some sort of probation. All will be done with PR depts documentation from all parties.
This is of course just my opinion of how this will work out and I don't have inside information. But doesn't that kind of make sense? Nascar can play a game all they want like they don't want Larson back and make you believe they have moved on. However, trust me, they want Kyle back! Especially with the headlines he has been making with grass roots fans all over this country over the last few months. Don't let their silence fool you. $$$$ talks.
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Do we know if Spire management also dropped him? That was the group he used as an agent and after watching a few Nascar races this week on youtube, I think it was stated that Spire may have purchased the 95car currently ran by Christopher Bell. Now a lot of unknowns still about that but since they represent a number or drivers, run a field filler car practically on minimial sponsorship from time to time, maybe that is a car he can run pending reinstatement.
Now granted, through some of the comments he has made, he is not going to race in Nascar unless it is a somewhat competitive car. As far as PR goes, could be a way for his agency (if they have not dropped him) to get him in a few races in a car probably as comparable as his old somewhat the Kurt Busch way from about 8years ago. Sponsors are a heavy need and the biggest road block right now from getting into a top ride (we all know SHR there is chance) but maybe getting into a car like the 95 and become a little more marketable by stories like the AP had could be a way back.
Both I feel are slim chances but right now I think that if SHR does not have a way this year, then it will be potentially a full time WoO schedule for him or similar to this year. If similar to this year then I can see maybe a Spire unsponsored race or two. I can also see if reinstated that he would be a name that is used as a fill in driver if a driver gets injured. I am sure owners will put the feeler out to the sponsors if a driver gets hurt that hey he is a fill in that can perform what do you think. Most will probably say no at this point but overtime might be a potential.
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August 21, 2020 at
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Why does this forum care so much about kyle larson anyway? He gets what he wants in rhe end who cares other then hoseheads i guess
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August 21, 2020 at
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Posted By: dirtlover on August 21 2020 at 03:43:44 PM
Why does this forum care so much about kyle larson anyway? He gets what he wants in rhe end who cares other then hoseheads i guess
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Considering more people were buying his merch at Knoxville this past weekend and all previous 9 races I have been too (Ohio speedweek, Attica, Lernerville, etc) than any other person, a majority of people in the stands were standing and cheering when he won in those races, plus all other social media groups are talking about him I would say it is not just hoseheads. It's everywhere as he has a lot of fans. People want to talk about him so they do, if you don't want to talk about him then move along, that simple
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August 21, 2020 at
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Posted By: dirtlover on August 21 2020 at 03:43:44 PM
Why does this forum care so much about kyle larson anyway? He gets what he wants in rhe end who cares other then hoseheads i guess
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Okay.............................so, do you want more covid talk from us then? Don't know how to make everyone happy. If we aren't supposed to talk about covid (even if it's to do with the affect on sprint car racing) and we aren't supposed to talk about the future plans of the hottest sprint car driver in the world right now, I will wait for direction from you as to what we are supposed to talk about on here.
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August 22, 2020 at
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Posted By: egras on August 21 2020 at 04:36:00 PM
Okay.............................so, do you want more covid talk from us then? Don't know how to make everyone happy. If we aren't supposed to talk about covid (even if it's to do with the affect on sprint car racing) and we aren't supposed to talk about the future plans of the hottest sprint car driver in the world right now, I will wait for direction from you as to what we are supposed to talk about on here.
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The goal of many drivers is be able to race NASCAR,Indy,or F-! type cars where the money can be huge.Just an elite few get the chance.Some get a chance due to their race or gender or being a relative.Without naming them we know who they are.Kyle Larson didnt bring money but brought talent. The timing of his mistake cost him his high paying job but I beleive he will get another chance as his fan base is growing and NASCAR needs him to add excitement to in my opinion to a venue that is lacking the spark to move forward. I applaud the drivers for making all they can but even though I watch the last laps sometimes the WOO race last night was the most exciting finish and was worth the $39 a mohth on DirtVision.It worked out but the 4 wheeler sitting in turn four probably needed a change of linen as that was way too close.
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