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April 14, 2016 at
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Posted By: chilly on April 14 2016 at 12:34:04 PM
My first introduction to Garner was when he ran the Verhey #17v car at Husets in the 360 class. He was wicked fast in that ride... and it was a beautful looking car to boot!
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Wicked fast would be accurate. So much fun to watch in that car. I should tally up the wins he racked up in that car, I think it would be an impressive number. What would be more impressive would be the number of cars he had to pass to get those wins. If I remember correctly (not likely) the format at Huset's then put the guys who were atop the point standings, behind most of the field in the feature.
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Posted By: IADIRT on April 13 2016 at 03:25:38 PM
Heskin winning it would be awesome. Last year probably wasnt quite what they wanted compared to the year before but the competition level was so high and a little bad luck sure didn't help him.
As for Garner I see no way hes not at Knoxville. Yes its a 4-5 hour drive but if thats where your backers are from and if thats where you race best at you're gonna make that trip. I'd rather drive 4-5 hours every Saturday to win or get top 3 than to run middle of the pack 30 mins from home. Its all about winning at this level and not about how much money it is to win.
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Mid-Pack at Husets is far from the truth. Clint is one of the best at getting around that place. I tried to find a career win count for him at the track at was unable to. What I did find was this little bit of info in his bio:
"His first win at Huset’s Speedway in Brandon, South Dakota came in 1996, and he would win the 360 championship there in 2002. He dominated the competition at Huset’s that season, winning 10 times and taking home the track and NMRA championship."
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April 14, 2016 at
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Posted By: paydirt28 on April 14 2016 at 11:30:32 AM
Not bashing or arguing here, just want to point out that Garner is definitely not a mid-pack car at Huset's. He's as good, and arguably better then anybody there. Always a contender, even with limited starts over the last number of years. He ran once there last year and finished 2nd. His backing, Midwest Excavating, is a Sioux Falls operation. However, I do agree with you, he'll likely stick to K-ville. If Al Parker is the "backing" that you're referring to, then you've a good point. Again, not bashing, just wanted clear up a few things.
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Agree, Garner is good a Huset's. For some reason, he just doesn't race there even though it's close to home.
Yes, I was refering to Al Parker (i believe he supplies the engines for Clint't team (not maintences them or builds them, but supplies them)). David Hesmer's dad is also a big part of that team (not sure if monetarily or not, but he's always in their pit area).
One thing is for sure, we just will never know until the haulers are in the infield every Saturday night all season.
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Posted By: blazer00 on April 14 2016 at 10:42:42 AM
It's tough to promote a wingless event at Knoxville because there just aren't any wingless cars near by to draw. And a one time draw will usually not produce enough cars. It's tough to make a long haul to a track that only a few wingless guys have ever raced on. How many winged guys raced at the wingless show at Oskaloosa? Quite a few I'd bet because they were already there and so were the fans so it worked. I have seen a couple wingless shows at Knoxville and the racing was close and enjoyable. Just where do you fit it in to Knoxville's already busy schedule? I don't think you can.
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There were a few winged guys that ran wingless at Osky over the years... but I wouldn't say quite a few. Off the very top of my head there was Travis Rilat (winner one year), Zach Chappell, Jac, and Jesse Hockett. Jac and Hockett (RIP) were very versatile though, so probably wouldn't shoehorn them as winged guys.
The nonwing racing at Knoxville was amazing when the track had some grip, as is the case just about everywhere else nonwing cars race.
USAC races this year at Jackson 6/23, Eagle 6/24, and Lakeside in KC 6/25 and 6/26. You would think they could fit Knoxville in there somewhere if they really wanted to!?
My pipe dream would be to have a USAC/CRA and USAC National midwest tour in May that combines the CA cars with the cars based out of the Indy area... pay an awesome points fund ($20k to win?) and incredible tow money ($1,000 per CA car and $500 per Indiana car?) to lure the CA cars east, and Indiana cars west. The goal would be to get 20 of the Indy cars to commit and a dozen from CA... 32 total to follow the entire tour. Here would be the tour stops:
Mon night at I-55 in Pevely (1/3 mile high bank bullring) -- !!!
Tues night at Lucas Oil Speedway (3/8 mile semi bank)
Wed night at Lakeside Speeway (short 1/2, semi bank)
Thurs night at US 36 Speedway (3/8 mile, high bank bullring)
Fri night at Eagle Raceway (1/3 mile high bank bullring)
It would end Sat at Knoxville for a $20k to win, $1k to start finale.
The other shows would pay $5k to win and $700 to start.
The CRA did this in the late 80s / early 90s... and it was awesome. If the weather cooperated, would that NOT be the most amazing 6 days ever?!
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Posted By: revjimk on April 14 2016 at 12:55:50 AM
I talked to a few Knoxville old timers & they seemed to think wingless cars were too slow, not really interested
But Ultimate Challenge wingless race at Oscaloosa seemed to have a decent crowd the 2 times I went (week between Kville 360s & 410s... lots of out of towners around for the week tho)
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I do not know who these oldtimers are you talked to but Knoxville was non wing for alot of years. The main reason at the time was that 2-3 drivers a year were being killed and some car owners said they would not return unless they put wings on which makes car safer in wrecks. You would probably not know much difference unless you put non wing and winged cars on the track at same time.
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Posted By: jholz2002 on April 14 2016 at 12:47:22 PM
Mid-Pack at Husets is far from the truth. Clint is one of the best at getting around that place. I tried to find a career win count for him at the track at was unable to. What I did find was this little bit of info in his bio:
"His first win at Huset’s Speedway in Brandon, South Dakota came in 1996, and he would win the 360 championship there in 2002. He dominated the competition at Huset’s that season, winning 10 times and taking home the track and NMRA championship."
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Clint has 7 wins in 410s and 17 in 360s at Huset's.
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Posted By: paydirt28 on April 14 2016 at 12:44:59 PM
Wicked fast would be accurate. So much fun to watch in that car. I should tally up the wins he racked up in that car, I think it would be an impressive number. What would be more impressive would be the number of cars he had to pass to get those wins. If I remember correctly (not likely) the format at Huset's then put the guys who were atop the point standings, behind most of the field in the feature.
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Agree there... don't remember seeing him start on the pole of any the races I saw him win in that car! Charging from the tail... and then slicing through traffic once he got the lead... good stuff for sure!
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Looks like Slammin Sammy should be there.
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Posted By: YungWun24 on April 14 2016 at 04:32:52 PM
Looks like Slammin Sammy should be there.
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unless the Keneric teamed pulled out of town last night or today, I'd look for Kerry Madsen to be there too (the rig was at the shop last night).
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Posted By: robertaltman on April 14 2016 at 11:31:39 AM
It can be done to have a non-wing show at Knoxville , but putting it in there schedule and in Oskaloosa is the tough part . Terry Mc Carl would like to have one back at his shows Monday or Tuesday . Sunday would be the day for Knoxville but they may not do it now because of there Sunday Capitani Classic
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You're an idiot. The non wing shows had poor crowds at Knoxville and Osky. That's why they changed to running winged 410's on Sunday and that draws 5 times the crowd. Knoxville promoted their Non wing shows a lot. Even the non wing world championship of the SCRA. Never drew the crowds they needed.
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Posted By: Todd Hoffman on April 14 2016 at 03:29:50 PM
Clint has 7 wins in 410s and 17 in 360s at Huset's.
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Thank you!
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Posted By: linbob on April 14 2016 at 02:07:37 PM
I do not know who these oldtimers are you talked to but Knoxville was non wing for alot of years. The main reason at the time was that 2-3 drivers a year were being killed and some car owners said they would not return unless they put wings on which makes car safer in wrecks. You would probably not know much difference unless you put non wing and winged cars on the track at same time.
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I don't know who they were either, just random guys sitting in the stands. Nor do I know if they represent the typical Knoxville fan.
I remember seeing some stuff about that safety issue you mentioned. Karl Kinser & Bob Trostle?
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Posted By: oswald on April 14 2016 at 04:54:32 PM
You're an idiot. The non wing shows had poor crowds at Knoxville and Osky. That's why they changed to running winged 410's on Sunday and that draws 5 times the crowd. Knoxville promoted their Non wing shows a lot. Even the non wing world championship of the SCRA. Never drew the crowds they needed.
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Poor crowds you say...but they have great bleachers, great restrooms, and decent food, there's no way they could have poor crowds.
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Posted By: robertaltman on April 14 2016 at 11:31:39 AM
It can be done to have a non-wing show at Knoxville , but putting it in there schedule and in Oskaloosa is the tough part . Terry Mc Carl would like to have one back at his shows Monday or Tuesday . Sunday would be the day for Knoxville but they may not do it now because of there Sunday Capitani Classic
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Ok so you say it can be done, go do it. You want to pick apart every little thing about every damn track in the country, well, here's your chance to show them all how it's done. You said Knoxville didn't promote their non wing shows good enough which implies that you know what would be good enough so put your money where your mouth is and pony up the money to make it happen. I'm sure if you are willing to pay the right price, Knoxville will gladly let you promote a wingless show. Like several others said, put up or shut up. This is the perfect opportunity for your to prove all your critics wrong.
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I am not picking every track apart as you say Mr. fiXXXer . If I had the money or could get backing I would try it , as some comments state above , I think fans would like to see the non-wing guys at Knoxville again , and crowd wasn't great but crowd at Oskaloosa was great .
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Henderson won 360 by more than 1000 points last year and don't know how many the year before.
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Knoxville had some nonwing shows that weren't that succesfull. They also had a 2 day midget show in the 2000's that didnt pan out. Proving why this racetrack is one of the best in the world they thought outside the box and started a late model nationals at an open wheel track which has been a tremendous success and gigantic profit make for this track.
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On the Clint Garner subject if he is doing the 360 routine again, does anybody know if he will be doing a Saturday Knoxville, Sunday Badlands schedule?
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I for one am pleased with the Cappy Classic on Sunday night over the nonwangers! I attended the nonwangers but found them to be uninteresting to me. The Cappy race is probably the most talented field of drivers for a single night show all year. Knoxville is the best!
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Can't wait to fire up The Cushion and watch the show, hockey play-offs will get a time out or split screen....
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