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December 12, 2012 at
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So you don't care how many cars were wadded up and motors lunched and misc. parts used up or how big the trailer is,it shows in you only being a rookie talking about sprint car racing and your judgement of Fred and Brian and wrenches and personalities involved ,yes your opinion is more than welcome here but no one has said, like I have said about three times now about Brian and driving ,yes he absolutely can drive and Fred is an excellent driver and no one has said a word about that. I think its my opinion that both are very capable drivers but a lot of circumstances has to determine who wins and in Central Pa. it is getting harder and harder to establish a winning streak with these point races one week and time trials setting the fields the following week,it just throws some guys off.Oh,and some of the absolute best sprint car wrenches you never hear about why? its a team effort and for some that really works.I appreciate your writing regardless.
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Posted By: Bet n Housen on December 12 2012 at 02:47:15 PM
So you don't care how many cars were wadded up and motors lunched and misc. parts used up or how big the trailer is,it shows in you only being a rookie talking about sprint car racing and your judgement of Fred and Brian and wrenches and personalities involved ,yes your opinion is more than welcome here but no one has said, like I have said about three times now about Brian and driving ,yes he absolutely can drive and Fred is an excellent driver and no one has said a word about that. I think its my opinion that both are very capable drivers but a lot of circumstances has to determine who wins and in Central Pa. it is getting harder and harder to establish a winning streak with these point races one week and time trials setting the fields the following week,it just throws some guys off.Oh,and some of the absolute best sprint car wrenches you never hear about why? its a team effort and for some that really works.I appreciate your writing regardless.
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It tickles me that people will say that one ride that consists of an Allpro headed chev powered Maxim replica on spec Goodyears is a baaaaad one but another Allpro headed chev powered Maxim or Maxim replica is a GREAT one. How much difference is there really between the 51, 17, 77, 27, 19 etc etc etc other than the number on wings?
Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?
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December 12, 2012 at
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December 12, 2012 at
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So you don't care how many cars were wadded up and motors lunched and misc. parts used up or how big the trailer is,it shows in you only being a rookie talking about sprint car racing and your judgement of Fred and Brian and wrenches and personalities involved ,yes your opinion is more than welcome here but no one has said, like I have said about three times now about Brian and driving ,yes he absolutely can drive and Fred is an excellent driver and no one has said a word about that. I think its my opinion that both are very capable drivers but a lot of circumstances has to determine who wins and in Central Pa. it is getting harder and harder to establish a winning streak with these point races one week and time trials setting the fields the following week,it just throws some guys off.Oh,and some of the absolute best sprint car wrenches you never hear about why? its a team effort and for some that really works.I appreciate your writing regardless.
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wow....really....my opinion is welcome here? well thanks a shitload big guy.......and where did i say fred cant drive, or brian either for that matter? or talk about wadded up cars or blown motors? perhaps before you term me a "rookie" you should A) check the signup date B) learn to read and comprehend cause its obvious that i said nothing but positive things about both drivers.....and could add facts and proof to my statements but i wouldnt want to confuse you since a "rookie" isnt suppose to know anything. thanks for your appreciation of what i have to say.....it means a lot. holy shit....glad i didnt bring up kyle larson!
" How much difference is there really between the 51, 17, 77, 27, 19 etc etc etc other than the number on wings?"
the color????
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December 12, 2012 at
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Posted By: minthess on December 12 2012 at 03:14:47 PM
It tickles me that people will say that one ride that consists of an Allpro headed chev powered Maxim replica on spec Goodyears is a baaaaad one but another Allpro headed chev powered Maxim or Maxim replica is a GREAT one. How much difference is there really between the 51, 17, 77, 27, 19 etc etc etc other than the number on wings?
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I am going to tell you something, Please Please don't repeat it!!! Any one walking this earth can buy the same equipment Kinser,Rahmer,Stewart.......... run!! It is what one does with said equipment that set one apart from the pack!!!!
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December 13, 2012 at
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C4 so what about Kyle Larson now? More off the wall stuff or something that makes sense,you been a member since 2004 good for you it still doesn't prove you know jack about sprint car racing so go back to your you tube and magazines and the costs of of what it takes to race today and yes anyone can buy the parts and the number color and many other things just don't matter,what really matters is that it is all done safely,again I appreciate you comments whether I agree or not is another matter and thats what makes this country great;at least we can agree both Fred and Leppo are excellent drivers and some of us see the glass half full and some half empty,so bottoms up and Merry Christmas.
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December 13, 2012 at
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c4 knows enough about racing...apparently you never met him.
Leppo and McMahan do not have the benefit of nasty wrecks that Rahmer took in recent years and obviously liked the set up that was put under them...Rahmer has proven enough over the years and in recent years has NOT driven anywhere near as aggressively as the past...and steers the car clear of the high groove every chance he gets.
And I can't say I blame him after looking at what happened at Port Royal on at least two occaisions this past season.
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
weather." Van May
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December 13, 2012 at
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thanks mark.
as far as me not knowing what equipment, transportation and nightly expenses cost.....i think since i have 5 racecars in the garage, i may know a thing or two from first hand experience.....granted, they are not winged 410s but have you priced a top of the line midget lately? my first love is nonwing sprints and make trips to indy as often as possible......and if someone would start a nonwing deal out here, everything i currently own would be for sale and i would be on board nonwing in a heartbeat.
with that being said......we have enough connections thru friends and business associates to know a lot of the "inside stuff" that goes on in central pa coupled with being friends with a few of the 410 and 358 drivers and teams......going back 40 years or so. and we have met a tremendous amount of really good people that we enjoy spending time with at the tracks. so, my points are not made as a fan that comes thru the front gate and has no idea what goes on in the pits or the shops.....its based on getting dirty every night im at the track....if not on my own cars, on someone elses.
i dont expect to agree with everyone's opinion, and thats cool.....and i dont expect them to agree with mine.....just like every crew cheif sets their car up differently.....but thats one of the parts that make racing, especially open wheel dirt cars, great.
merry christmas to you too!
ps.....the larson comment was a joke 
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Posted By: c4 on December 13 2012 at 10:02:29 AM
thanks mark.
as far as me not knowing what equipment, transportation and nightly expenses cost.....i think since i have 5 racecars in the garage, i may know a thing or two from first hand experience.....granted, they are not winged 410s but have you priced a top of the line midget lately? my first love is nonwing sprints and make trips to indy as often as possible......and if someone would start a nonwing deal out here, everything i currently own would be for sale and i would be on board nonwing in a heartbeat.
with that being said......we have enough connections thru friends and business associates to know a lot of the "inside stuff" that goes on in central pa coupled with being friends with a few of the 410 and 358 drivers and teams......going back 40 years or so. and we have met a tremendous amount of really good people that we enjoy spending time with at the tracks. so, my points are not made as a fan that comes thru the front gate and has no idea what goes on in the pits or the shops.....its based on getting dirty every night im at the track....if not on my own cars, on someone elses.
i dont expect to agree with everyone's opinion, and thats cool.....and i dont expect them to agree with mine.....just like every crew cheif sets their car up differently.....but thats one of the parts that make racing, especially open wheel dirt cars, great.
merry christmas to you too!
ps.....the larson comment was a joke
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BINGO!!!!! "just like every crew cheif sets their car up differently.....but thats one of the parts that make racing, especially open wheel dirt cars, great."
I could not agree more!!!!
P.S. I think a nonwinged, 358ci steel block sprint series would be a great thing in Central Pa!!
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Posted By: c4 on December 13 2012 at 10:02:29 AM
thanks mark.
as far as me not knowing what equipment, transportation and nightly expenses cost.....i think since i have 5 racecars in the garage, i may know a thing or two from first hand experience.....granted, they are not winged 410s but have you priced a top of the line midget lately? my first love is nonwing sprints and make trips to indy as often as possible......and if someone would start a nonwing deal out here, everything i currently own would be for sale and i would be on board nonwing in a heartbeat.
with that being said......we have enough connections thru friends and business associates to know a lot of the "inside stuff" that goes on in central pa coupled with being friends with a few of the 410 and 358 drivers and teams......going back 40 years or so. and we have met a tremendous amount of really good people that we enjoy spending time with at the tracks. so, my points are not made as a fan that comes thru the front gate and has no idea what goes on in the pits or the shops.....its based on getting dirty every night im at the track....if not on my own cars, on someone elses.
i dont expect to agree with everyone's opinion, and thats cool.....and i dont expect them to agree with mine.....just like every crew cheif sets their car up differently.....but thats one of the parts that make racing, especially open wheel dirt cars, great.
merry christmas to you too!
ps.....the larson comment was a joke
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Kyle Larson's PA performance this year reminds me of a turd in the toilet that just won't flush...Spins round and round but doesn't really go anywhere...But in the end, you still thank them for coming out...
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back on topic...go schLeppo...
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Posted By: minthess on December 12 2012 at 03:14:47 PM
It tickles me that people will say that one ride that consists of an Allpro headed chev powered Maxim replica on spec Goodyears is a baaaaad one but another Allpro headed chev powered Maxim or Maxim replica is a GREAT one. How much difference is there really between the 51, 17, 77, 27, 19 etc etc etc other than the number on wings?
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Minthess, you have no idea how clueless you are. Thank you for the entertainment though. You are like a circus monkey or maybe the Court Jester. We all make our own reality I guess.
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Kyle Larson's PA performance this year reminds me of a turd in the toilet that just won't flush...Spins round and round but doesn't really go anywhere...But in the end, you still thank them for coming out...
THAT IS SOME FUNNY SHEET right there!!!!!
Thank You
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Posted By: c4 on December 12 2012 at 11:51:20 AM
lets look at it this way.....it seems to me that leppo AND rahmer need EXCELLENT crew chiefs to give them cars they are comfortable in. it seems to me that fred has not had that since timmy and brian has not ever had a consistant wrench that can make the right calls, night after night. rahmer didnt forget how to drive and brian has shown he can win with the right guys setting up the car. i dont care how many cars are lined up in the shop, or how many motors are on the floor or how big the trailer is. it all comes down to all the members on the team doing their job and "jelling" and the ONE car that rolls out onto the track being set up so the driver can do the best job possible.......and rahmer didnt jell with jackson....leppo apparently did and so did paulie mc......same cars and motors as rahmer had.......does that make rahmer a shitty racer? and no....he didnt make the show at the open....cause he left half the bottom of his motor out on the track.....was that cause he cant drive anymore? i dont think so.
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Barry Jackson was the one setting up the cars on the 71 back in 2008 when Leppo won the Tommy classic, two keystone cup races, and the Diamond Series points championship at Williams Grove. That was the last year running JEIs, Swope and Jackson had a falling out and Swope refused to buy JEI after that. No doubt that helped when he got into the 51 this year.
As for the 17, it may have been the same stuff as the 27/1z, but it did always seem like it was a step off. People forget that Pittman left that ride without another one lined up in 2010 because of the lack of performance. Walker jumped to the 17 because at the time they raced a lot more than the 27 did, opening up that ride for Pittman. Nothing against Tyler, but it Turned out Heffner was willing to run a lot more once the car had a fast driver that on bad nights brought home top 10s instead of just the steering wheel.
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stan......classic as usual....
latsh.....knowing the love for the sport jesse had and the effort he was willing to put out, it almost hurt to watch that car not live up to what it should have done. seemed like when TW hooked up with his old cali crew chief, there may have been some hope but that deal didnt last long, for whatever reason. the balls out show TW put on at the g spot the night he wadded it up and then won showed the heart the team, and TW had.....
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Posted By: Bet n Housen on December 12 2012 at 02:47:15 PM
So you don't care how many cars were wadded up and motors lunched and misc. parts used up or how big the trailer is,it shows in you only being a rookie talking about sprint car racing and your judgement of Fred and Brian and wrenches and personalities involved ,yes your opinion is more than welcome here but no one has said, like I have said about three times now about Brian and driving ,yes he absolutely can drive and Fred is an excellent driver and no one has said a word about that. I think its my opinion that both are very capable drivers but a lot of circumstances has to determine who wins and in Central Pa. it is getting harder and harder to establish a winning streak with these point races one week and time trials setting the fields the following week,it just throws some guys off.Oh,and some of the absolute best sprint car wrenches you never hear about why? its a team effort and for some that really works.I appreciate your writing regardless.
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damn c4 guess all those races i have seen you at and the race cars you have been with were a figment of my imagination or good drugs !!!!! sucks can find them like that anymore.
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well, if you would have been wearing the fro wig and pink bathrobe, it woulda been easier to spot you in the crowd......
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well, if you would have been wearing the fro wig and pink bathrobe, it woulda been easier to spot you in the crowd......
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Save The Ta-Ta's
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stan......classic as usual....
latsh.....knowing the love for the sport jesse had and the effort he was willing to put out, it almost hurt to watch that car not live up to what it should have done. seemed like when TW hooked up with his old cali crew chief, there may have been some hope but that deal didnt last long, for whatever reason. the balls out show TW put on at the g spot the night he wadded it up and then won showed the heart the team, and TW had.....
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It just mystified me as to why that car didn't run better, and your right, there was a period with Tyler where it did and there was a King's Royal to show for it, among other events that summer including that Grandview race. Certainly didn't mean to make it sound like the Keen guys weren't giving it their all, or didn't have the talent/heart to pull it off.
My final opinion on the original topic is this: I am a Leppo fan, but up until the Zemco performance and the National Open performance, I wasn't so sold myself . I expected him to put the Zemco car in the top 10 that night and I expected him to make the show at the National Open. He's always quick in TT's and that means so much at those shows. When Montieth passed him in the Zemco car, I told the guy next to me, "its over". For him to keep his head together and get Montieth back at Williams Grove to win, showed a HUGE step for him. Then at the National Open, to drive from 6th to Schatz's back bumper in the first half of the race showed he had a good car, but to keep the best in the business honest for the next 12 laps and literally hound him and slide by a couple times showed me that he has what it takes to compete at that level. Schatz is arguably (in some minds, I think he IS) the best there is at Williams Grove, and honestly probably the only one that could keep Leppo from winning that night. Brian could only slide him for a corner, Schatz was good enough to return the favor next corner and not bobble every time they came off the turns nose to tail. I kept hoping he could hold him for a lap, as good as Schatz is, I honestly thought that two consecutive corners was all Brian needed in clean air to set sail. Speed has never been Leppo's issue, consistency and holding it together for 25, 30, or in this case 40 laps has been in the past. I know it's only two races, but they showed me a lot.
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Posted By: Stan Donnit on December 13 2012 at 05:10:11 PM
Would you like to hear my Larson joke...?
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Kyle Larson's PA performance this year reminds me of a turd in the toilet that just won't flush...Spins round and round but doesn't really go anywhere...But in the end, you still thank them for coming out...
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come on stan you know your gonna beach it every time with them new fancy 1.5 gal flushers you just rebuild them old 3.5 gal flushers and watch it go round and round and down
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