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Thats not true, I run a racesaver 305 down here in Louisiana and the valve covers aren't sealed. What is sealed is both heads, the timing cover, and the intake. Because the valve covers aren't sealed and we have specific rules about valve springs and seat pressure, the valve springs are checked pretty regular.

Of the motors I have had problems with, none had anything to do with wing size. All of our issues came back to oiling problems.(the reason we went to drysumps, and the problem stopped). If you think your wing is hurting your motor, drop it down to have less drag. I don't see the wing as a solution to motor longevity. It might be a factor in motor life, but overall, it doens't make that much difference. There are a lot of other ways to help the class rather than making all the teams buy new wings.

My former driver in one of our 2 Sprint Cars we ran in Texas in the 90s builds motors in the Dallas area, and is the area RaceSaver house. Covers Devils Bowl, Etc. From my personal experience there is no way a Race Saver motor will live at Knoxville (5/8 upper grove). The other issue that fans want to see competative racing in 305 just like they see in the 360s on the track. The racing was outstanding with 20 to 24 cars each night. 305 track record by a rookie is 16.9 vs 15.9 for 360s. (I may be off alittle). The key is that the wing is laid back and there is alot less stagger so the car is freed up. There are very few blown motors. Check with some of those that have run KR as well as other area tracks.

Lost Creek, Who's your beef with? 34 raceway, the tech guys, or the guys racing? I know for a fact the block numbers are checked after every feature as well as the stacks. I'd say 95% of the time the winner or top 3 are pumped and the bore scope is stuck down the injection to look for any port matching, if there isn't threatening weather. This past year the inspection plug was asked to be taken out on a couple different occasions to look at the rods and crank. I know cause I took them out of our cars. Early in the season they did a shock check prior to the heats and found a couple teams using illegal shocks, they were told to remove them or they couldn't compete. Everyone's wing side boards were inspected this year. What more would you like them to check? Do a full car teardown? Geezz. These tech guys not only have to look at the 305 cars they have 4 other classes to inspect as well, they don't have all night to spend inspecting every little part on the sprinters. If you have a problem with how or what they are checking. Volunteer your time to help, see if it's as easy as you think. I don't envy those guys having to listen to people whine and complain about this guy or that guy is cheating, or why isn't this being checked. I couldn't put up with it. If you think guys are cheating, put up your money and have something specific checked. If you spent as much time getting your car ready to go and fine tuned as you do complaining about the teching and cars supposedly cheating you might actually make it to race more that 3 times this past year. Good Day.

Sorry to partrially hijack the post, I agree it would be nice if tracks or associations could come to an agreement on the rules. This would open up more options where the 305's can race. Knoxville is Knoxville, they're gonna do their own thing just because they can and you can either keep up with them or do something else. If the rules were the same, whether or not you'd get more cars travelling to other tracks or not, that's another story. Probably not, with the current purses paying 400 ~ 600 to win. That just really doesn't cut it keeping these cars on the track. By the time your putting fuel in your truck to get there, tires, pit passes, fuel in the car, and all that's before the car hits the dirt. But who's here for the $$, no one in this class. It's just an expensive hobby.

Turning wrenches for Hetrick 35

knoxville 360 used to have small wings. By changing to large winks it sort of made fans think more of them Large wings seem to make them more racy looking .

trust me nobody at knoxville wants to see cars with smaller wings or non wing on the 305s those little wings look like crap they pull those big wings just fine they have all 3 classes figured out just fine

410s 360s and 305s are pretty much one second apart 14 15 16 everything is fine our 305s at knoxville are faster then the outlaw latemodels

Remember this is supposed to be a budget class,and alot of people that race this class really are on a budget.A lot of people can't fork over thousands of dollars at a shot for one of those crate motors whether they are a good deal or not,many buy a part here and a part there in the off season as they can afford it until they get their motor all together,that's the way a poor boy has to roll.Mandate a spec motor and watch car counts go down.I also wish I was rich so I could put some of these guys behind the wheel of a 305 and then they can tell me how a 305 can't pull the big wing,I bet it would pull that big wing faster than most of them would ever want to go!

Hey kevin. FY to. My car has had inspections . We have been in the top three many times. They measured the injection, and that was about it. I have other things going on other than racing. I dont have to be at the track every week to have fun. you take it way to serious, to the point were you are a ass . People watch how you are. you really having fun. Its to bad. You take care. we will run time to time . but we are not out for the big check. I grew up around sprints and midgets before you were born. And love the sport. You should run 360s since you have the 305s figured out.

Winners make things happen, losers let things happen. We need more racers like Kevin. Drivers need to take pride in what you do. If a driver is going to spend thousands of dollars and not take things seriously then they should go race a lower form of racing. Sprint Car racing is serious and its so serious that not being prepared could cost a drivers life. I commend you Kevin for taking so much pride in your racing. Just remember that when you are a winner people will always "hate" on you. They hate because they are jealous of what you have and what you accomplish. Take the Sammy Swindell way of thinking, when he gets booed he just smiles and waves. Being booed and accused of cheating is one of the biggest honors a driver can get. It means you are whooping ass and they are taking notice. Good luck in 2012.

"The winner ain't the one with the fastest car, it's 
the one who refuses to lose."

Thanks for all the responses to Karl's original posting. I hope all the people who responded can attend the meeting Sunday, but if you can't, please e mail the Midwest 305 Sprint cars with any suggestions at [email protected].

We can and must work together to keep the 305 sprint cars economical and sustainable well into the future.

Thanks for all your interest.

Signed,

An old wrench who cares.

What rules do they have on shocks? I just went to the website and it said nothing about shocks being limited. Only thing I can figure is cockpit adjusters.....

rule 28. No cock-pit adjustable shock absorbers. No remote reservoir shocks

There were a couple teams running Super Shox with remote reservoirs early this past season during hot laps, just because that's what they normally run on their 360 cars with the Sprint Invaders. Every car was checked. The officials were decent enough to ask them to remove them before the heats. They could have waited until after the heats or the feature and then they would've been dq'ed.

Turning wrenches for Hetrick 35

Go lay by your dish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No remote reservoirs? That is a little steep. Perfect example is the SuperShox. I can understand cockpit adjusters, but no canisters is like wanting to run the 16ft wing.....That is the way shocks are going, so why are you limiting what teams can find used?

I'm pretty sure you can find cheap Pro Shocks used. Just because one guy can find a deal on a remote reservoir shock, soon everybody is going to have brand new high dollar shocks to keep up. It's 305's for crying out loud, guys shouldn't be blowing money to run better stuff than what I have on my 410. (yeah my 410 has some cheap parts on it, the money goes to diesel, methanol, tires and pit passes.)And just because one guy can find a deal doesn't make right, that argument has been the death of every budget class throughout the history of racing.

Never hit stationary objects!

Thanks for the reply.

From your perspective, what are some of the other ways to help the class?

knoxville and mw305 are just gonna have to work together on the whole deal ! im sure knoxville doesnt want to spend all night tech ing cars for a low purse class! hey i got an idea lets get them to up the purse a little bit !! it is the sprint car capital of the world ya know! and some of the best of the best race here locally in all the classes!