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March 27, 2009 at
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What a day that was Grady, a one of a kind..Two full shows, one in the day, and another that night, and all three division's!
If it was the city, OK... If it had been the county,OK..But not this way Grady, not this way.
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Posted By: BIGFISH on March 27 2009 at 06:57:34 PM
What a day that was Grady, a one of a kind..Two full shows, one in the day, and another that night, and all three division's!
If it was the city, OK... If it had been the county,OK..But not this way Grady, not this way.
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That was a great day, no doubt about it.
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Posted By: BIGFISH on March 27 2009 at 06:57:34 PM
What a day that was Grady, a one of a kind..Two full shows, one in the day, and another that night, and all three division's!
If it was the city, OK... If it had been the county,OK..But not this way Grady, not this way.
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No matter what happens they can not take away the memories you have for the place,
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March 27, 2009 at
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Look at Bill W's (column of main page) best appearing cars last year at Knoxville. I don't think any of these cars will be remembered a decade from now. Like Dyers brick car, Sammys TMC or Channellock, Hauds Pennzoil, Furr circuitboard, Notts Coors extra gold, etc. There doesn't seem to be much creativity behind these vinyl graphic machines, they all start looking the same. As opposed to when they were hand painted.
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March 27, 2009 at
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Posted By: laudarevsonhunt on March 27 2009 at 07:11:33 PM
Look at Bill W's (column of main page) best appearing cars last year at Knoxville. I don't think any of these cars will be remembered a decade from now. Like Dyers brick car, Sammys TMC or Channellock, Hauds Pennzoil, Furr circuitboard, Notts Coors extra gold, etc. There doesn't seem to be much creativity behind these vinyl graphic machines, they all start looking the same. As opposed to when they were hand painted.
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That may be true bit the others are far from "ugly" IMO.
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March 27, 2009 at
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Posted By: watkinsgrady on March 27 2009 at 07:02:37 PM
No matter what happens they can not take away the memories you have for the place,
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You'll find me sitting in the rigging of a Crane on 35th and Broadway watching Lealand McSpadden going into turn one, high and wide, his elbow goes up, and it never waivers until it smoothly comes down going through two... He's got Ronnie, Billy and Richard tied onto his tail and it's like a dance that only a few have mastered, and it's beautiful to see. There's a kid watching at one end of the track, they call him JJ, and we know what he was thinking. There's another young man at the other end of the track, and he's thinking the same thing, they call him Jerry. They all have been, or are going to be Champions. Two will drive at Indy, one on the pole for AJ Foyt, the other will be the youngest ever.They all will become or already are great ambassadors for our sport, on and off the track. Yes, we grow em good here, you have to go fast, to stay cool at Manzy.That's not where it started, but there's always another night..There are grown men who have found themselves's at where Ascot Park used to be, just sitting there doing the same thing.KennySign the petition..LOL
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Posted By: BIGFISH on March 27 2009 at 07:50:50 PM
You'll find me sitting in the rigging of a Crane on 35th and Broadway watching Lealand McSpadden going into turn one, high and wide, his elbow goes up, and it never waivers until it smoothly comes down going through two... He's got Ronnie, Billy and Richard tied onto his tail and it's like a dance that only a few have mastered, and it's beautiful to see. There's a kid watching at one end of the track, they call him JJ, and we know what he was thinking. There's another young man at the other end of the track, and he's thinking the same thing, they call him Jerry. They all have been, or are going to be Champions. Two will drive at Indy, one on the pole for AJ Foyt, the other will be the youngest ever.They all will become or already are great ambassadors for our sport, on and off the track. Yes, we grow em good here, you have to go fast, to stay cool at Manzy.That's not where it started, but there's always another night..There are grown men who have found themselves's at where Ascot Park used to be, just sitting there doing the same thing.KennySign the petition..LOL
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rodger that!
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Posted By: sprinter25 on March 27 2009 at 10:41:52 AM
Found this on www.bradfurrracing,com
It did win "best appearing car" at Knoxville
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AND HIS SISTER WAS HOTTER THAN THE CAR.
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March 27, 2009 at
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Posted By: laudarevsonhunt on March 27 2009 at 07:11:33 PM
Look at Bill W's (column of main page) best appearing cars last year at Knoxville. I don't think any of these cars will be remembered a decade from now. Like Dyers brick car, Sammys TMC or Channellock, Hauds Pennzoil, Furr circuitboard, Notts Coors extra gold, etc. There doesn't seem to be much creativity behind these vinyl graphic machines, they all start looking the same. As opposed to when they were hand painted.
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That I agree with.
I don't think the swooshes and flames are ugly, but I do think they've been played out. After a while, many of them start to look alike. Walk through a pit area and try to find a car without them. There aren't many.
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Posted By: brian26 on March 27 2009 at 08:19:26 AM
To each his own.
Let me ask you sumthin'. I KNOW for a fact that if one of these old cars were stuck in a river bottom and discovered today, someone, and I mean many because I've been seeing the tide turn these last few years, someone would have to dig it out and maybe restore it to what it looked like in it's day. Can you honestly tell me that todays cars will get the same respect on that scale, 20-30 years from now? Paint, powder coat stripped, can you tell the difference between a Maxim, Jenkins, J&J,XXX? Fewer in the stands today are able to as compared to years ago.
The vinyl scheme is the personality today, not so much the car. The car can be replaced by an identical clone and if no one says anything, no one will even notice. BUT, if you go to another vinyl scheme, everyone will wonder if it's a new car!
The point is, back then the cars were just as much a personality of the show as the drivers themselves were. The paint could change, and yet many would still follow where the car went or stayed. By having the cars in like patterns, wild vinyl schemes, downtubes, sprint tails, wings--and then having all the drivers cleaned up and looking nice for their sponsors, complete with huge rigs, Shaver-Wesmar motors, the average dude on the street is not going to connect as easily to an entire scene as he is to that one personality he could identify with. Look at the stands on a regular nights show, if you knew how full they used to be, you'd know somethings off.
The 'excuse' of there being more competition for the entertainment dollar today is BOGUS. The sexual revolution was not cheap, nor were all theother attractions that may have seemed cheap at the time, but are now really cheap when you compare the value of the dollar then and the value of the dollar now.
Lastly, OKCFAN12, you never saw these cars race with the fervor that you saw this past year at the Chili Bowl, wingless Sprints at OkC etc. Had you seen them in 'motion' , at speed, in the dramatic setting bordering on the look of war, you might have different ideers as to whether or not these here cuhrs r 'fugly'. I like some of todays vinyl schemes, i do really. Yet if EVERYBODY is doing a wild vinyl scheme, then what's so wild about that? Makes me think of the "splash" patterns of the late '80s. [eyeroll]
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Sprint Cars back in the day were works of art there is no doubt about that. The same could be said about finding a '50's, '60's automobile at the bottom of a lake compared to a 2008 Impala.
You should've seen the two restored sprinters that were on the concorse at Manzy last Copper On Dirt, beautiful. BIGFISH you have any photos of those?
Sean
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Speaking of Manzy, I got this cool shirt off of e-bah, wish I had been there in person to buy it!
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These cars are actually long wheelbase sprint cars underneath. From a transitional time during the 70's going to the sprinters of today. MANY of the 'refined' technological items on todays top gun sprinters, came from this strain of cars in the lower midwest. I need to start making a list since there are quite a few things from here.
Back then, they saw how USAC and the West Coast did things and adapted the idea to their own cars. In time 'out of the box thinking' produced a whole new way doing certain peices, yet the styling department was competitive too.
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Under the sun, in motion, Offy at full song, they say this car was breath taking. Bobby Unser straddled this horse as well as Joe Leonard
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I really want to see this car under the sun in person. Saw it on display at Indy once, but inside.
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Who could ever forget this one?
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Posted By: brian26 on March 27 2009 at 08:19:26 AM
To each his own.
Let me ask you sumthin'. I KNOW for a fact that if one of these old cars were stuck in a river bottom and discovered today, someone, and I mean many because I've been seeing the tide turn these last few years, someone would have to dig it out and maybe restore it to what it looked like in it's day. Can you honestly tell me that todays cars will get the same respect on that scale, 20-30 years from now? Paint, powder coat stripped, can you tell the difference between a Maxim, Jenkins, J&J,XXX? Fewer in the stands today are able to as compared to years ago.
The vinyl scheme is the personality today, not so much the car. The car can be replaced by an identical clone and if no one says anything, no one will even notice. BUT, if you go to another vinyl scheme, everyone will wonder if it's a new car!
The point is, back then the cars were just as much a personality of the show as the drivers themselves were. The paint could change, and yet many would still follow where the car went or stayed. By having the cars in like patterns, wild vinyl schemes, downtubes, sprint tails, wings--and then having all the drivers cleaned up and looking nice for their sponsors, complete with huge rigs, Shaver-Wesmar motors, the average dude on the street is not going to connect as easily to an entire scene as he is to that one personality he could identify with. Look at the stands on a regular nights show, if you knew how full they used to be, you'd know somethings off.
The 'excuse' of there being more competition for the entertainment dollar today is BOGUS. The sexual revolution was not cheap, nor were all theother attractions that may have seemed cheap at the time, but are now really cheap when you compare the value of the dollar then and the value of the dollar now.
Lastly, OKCFAN12, you never saw these cars race with the fervor that you saw this past year at the Chili Bowl, wingless Sprints at OkC etc. Had you seen them in 'motion' , at speed, in the dramatic setting bordering on the look of war, you might have different ideers as to whether or not these here cuhrs r 'fugly'. I like some of todays vinyl schemes, i do really. Yet if EVERYBODY is doing a wild vinyl scheme, then what's so wild about that? Makes me think of the "splash" patterns of the late '80s. [eyeroll]
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I fully agree with you Brian. Thats why I say someday if todays are different - I'll be partial to todays.
Sorry man, I was more trying to be humorous - not bash on the oldies. Everything today owes to them - and its damn honorable (and tedious lol ) work restoring those cars. I wont lie - they are neat to look at. I love the hall of fam in Knoxville - the old stuff does fascinate me. The Racing from the Past site is fascinating too - spend a lot of time there periodically. I enjoy all the stories my family has always told me - and that I read on here as well. I just like the look of the cars today....
I really do wish there were a lot of videos of the races back then. I see those cars and just cant imagine what it would have looked like. or how fast they were compared to todays racing. I understand this is something dear to you Brian - I apologize man - I was more trying to cut up a little - not insult it.
Good post though man.
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People, people, people. Every so often, someone starts a thread about good looking sprint cars (aint it cool?). I always see some really nice wheels posted by several of you. Thank you all *again* for sharing.
However........ for the "umpteenth time", I submit to you......THE WINNER! .................
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I fully agree with you Brian. Thats why I say someday if todays are different - I'll be partial to todays.
Sorry man, I was more trying to be humorous - not bash on the oldies. Everything today owes to them - and its damn honorable (and tedious lol ) work restoring those cars. I wont lie - they are neat to look at. I love the hall of fam in Knoxville - the old stuff does fascinate me. The Racing from the Past site is fascinating too - spend a lot of time there periodically. I enjoy all the stories my family has always told me - and that I read on here as well. I just like the look of the cars today....
I really do wish there were a lot of videos of the races back then. I see those cars and just cant imagine what it would have looked like. or how fast they were compared to todays racing. I understand this is something dear to you Brian - I apologize man - I was more trying to cut up a little - not insult it.
Good post though man.
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Hey man,
It's just an old guy/young guy conflict that happens EVERY generation. To be totally honest, i do wish the hood and the nose were lower and the wheelbase was longer on that car. But that's not how they done 'em in Manzy.
Hell if you and I were lawyers, I'd still buy you a beer after I lost the case to you! I know you that well.
Please understand my respect towards you is mutual.
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Regardless of how much vinyl you plaster on a race car. It isn't a race car without some goldleaf numbers on it.
Enough said...
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