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Sprinter27R
November 14, 2025 at 03:09:01 PM
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Kubota High Limit Racing Formalizes 'High Roller Club' For Teams

 

https://www.floracing.com/articles/14752486-kubota-high-limit-racing-formalizes-high-roller-club-for-teams?contract_id=0063m00000sb0bgaaa


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Michael_N
November 14, 2025 at 03:28:55 PM
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Rodneyincanad
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November 14, 2025 at 04:18:35 PM
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I only read two paragraphs and quit reading. But how does giving a team who is already competitive enough to finish in the HL top 10, $450,000 make racing sustainable for those who race part time or on low budget teams?


Murphy
November 14, 2025 at 04:24:47 PM
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Early on in the H-L franchise discussion I said that before too long, every team would need to have a lawyer on the crew...



Gooch
November 14, 2025 at 05:19:40 PM
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NOT KNOCKING IT, just an honest question. So for those ten teams that is their point fund money for the next year or two correct? They are only racing for purse and bonus money and for the chance to get a better card the next time they are delt? 



Michael_N
November 15, 2025 at 10:01:57 AM
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I read it again twice and don't have a clue. Seems like the rich get richer? Not sure how any of this helps an average sprint car team keep a car on the track. 




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Getting ever closer to being NASCAR with wings.



Sprinter27R
November 15, 2025 at 02:34:45 PM
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Hight Roller club explained 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yddASQRaTpM


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NWFAN
November 15, 2025 at 02:55:49 PM
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Posted By: Rodneyincanad on November 14 2025 at 04:18:35 PM
I only read two paragraphs and quit reading. But how does giving a team who is already competitive enough to finish in the HL top 10, $450,000 make racing sustainable for those who race part time or on low budget teams?


Simple Rod, run a 360!  What do you consider a low budget team? 


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Rodneyincanad
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November 15, 2025 at 03:55:12 PM
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Watched the video. Whoever said teams need a lawyer was right. Get a lawyer and an accounting firm for main sponsors. Seems like they have already done away with Charters which was dangled for the teams to chase this year.

 

Will they just continue to change stuff for the next season and never really get to the point where they need to come up with the promised money??



saphead
November 15, 2025 at 07:28:13 PM
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If Raudman doesn't make it as an anouncer he could always sell timeshares or gutter guard in a mall kiosk lol



Murphy
November 15, 2025 at 10:21:27 PM
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Same here, I read it a dozen times and tried to understand it. 

Give credit where credit is due, High Limit appears to be injecting a lot of money into the sport, or more accurately into the checking accounts of 10 teams.


Give criticism where criticism is due, High Limit made this overly complicated and seems like they're changing the rules. To be honest though, it's not that clear. Raudman's video didn't make it any clearer. 

If I read it correctly, they are going to give Rico $425,000 in show-up money in 2026, That works out to an average of $6855 per race(?) Heck, it looks like 10th place guy Crouch will get $150,000/ $2419 per race? Why not just take the whole $2,340,00 and dump it into the purses and let them race for an extra $37,742 in purse money per night? Of course, they may not give the same amount for each race. They could skew it so that they pay more for play-offs wink

I'll admit that this sounds cynical, but this reminds me of a game of Calvin Ball from the cartoon Calvin and Hobbs. Everytime someone kicks the ball, they get to make a new rule.




NWFAN
November 16, 2025 at 04:03:21 AM
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Same here, I read it a dozen times and tried to understand it. 

Give credit where credit is due, High Limit appears to be injecting a lot of money into the sport, or more accurately into the checking accounts of 10 teams.


Give criticism where criticism is due, High Limit made this overly complicated and seems like they're changing the rules. To be honest though, it's not that clear. Raudman's video didn't make it any clearer. 

If I read it correctly, they are going to give Rico $425,000 in show-up money in 2026, That works out to an average of $6855 per race(?) Heck, it looks like 10th place guy Crouch will get $150,000/ $2419 per race? Why not just take the whole $2,340,00 and dump it into the purses and let them race for an extra $37,742 in purse money per night? Of course, they may not give the same amount for each race. They could skew it so that they pay more for play-offs wink

I'll admit that this sounds cynical, but this reminds me of a game of Calvin Ball from the cartoon Calvin and Hobbs. Everytime someone kicks the ball, they get to make a new rule.



well hell here. before high limit came into  play we were all complaining ABOUT SANCTION FEES! and the other sanctioned body of sprint cars, yes, thats right, the wooo so, here we are once again conversationl about how much money someone makes, , they make to much, it;s not fair, they are over paid....


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Rodneyincanad
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November 16, 2025 at 07:58:22 AM
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Too bad this is so confusing that we can't discuss actual facts, or at least think we are.  I would suspect the  charter, I mean franchise, I mean Ace of Spades would be given to Rico's race team, not the driver. Since Rico's team is not part of the 2026  High Limit  committed, does Tony get $6000 per race for having Rico roll in? 

This card trick doesn't give to all equally like the charters were supposed to? 

 

Is this in place of the charters or in addition to the charters?

 

It is starting to look like the HL will mirror Nascar right into a court room.



egras
November 16, 2025 at 10:12:49 AM
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Slowly, but surely, the wheels are turning exactly like a few of us said they would 2 or 3 years ago.  I think the HL business model is great.  The reason I think it's great is it keeps getting closer, and closer to the WoO business model, and I like the WoO business model.  Oh I know for the 1,000th time---the HL "lets" their guys race wherever, whenever.  It's heading the way many of us knew it would.  They now have the clause that only allows teams to keep their status if they run every event of the season.  Soon, they have a firm hold on those drivers, and can schedule against any event in the country they want.  

Once again, I am NOT against this business model.  I think it's a fantastic idea for them to accomplish their goal of taking over the national sprint car market.  (I hope none of you are still dumb enough to believe they only formed this to better sprint car racing---they did it to gain the market share)  They continue to march closer and closer to the control over their drivers like so many of you despise on the WoO tour.  

 

Stay tuned!  Soon to have 2 WoO-like organizations trying to be the alpha, and only one will survive!  




Murphy
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well hell here. before high limit came into  play we were all complaining ABOUT SANCTION FEES! and the other sanctioned body of sprint cars, yes, thats right, the wooo so, here we are once again conversationl about how much money someone makes, , they make to much, it;s not fair, they are over paid....



Rather than trying to change the subject from a discussion among interested parties, why don't you just admit that you don't understand it either?



longtimefan
November 16, 2025 at 11:29:25 AM
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Slowly, but surely, the wheels are turning exactly like a few of us said they would 2 or 3 years ago.  I think the HL business model is great.  The reason I think it's great is it keeps getting closer, and closer to the WoO business model, and I like the WoO business model.  Oh I know for the 1,000th time---the HL "lets" their guys race wherever, whenever.  It's heading the way many of us knew it would.  They now have the clause that only allows teams to keep their status if they run every event of the season.  Soon, they have a firm hold on those drivers, and can schedule against any event in the country they want.  

Once again, I am NOT against this business model.  I think it's a fantastic idea for them to accomplish their goal of taking over the national sprint car market.  (I hope none of you are still dumb enough to believe they only formed this to better sprint car racing---they did it to gain the market share)  They continue to march closer and closer to the control over their drivers like so many of you despise on the WoO tour.  

 

Stay tuned!  Soon to have 2 WoO-like organizations trying to be the alpha, and only one will survive!  



A couple things here about the racing anywhere they want. I may have been wrong I always understood that to be if HL was not racing. SEcond until they have a full season schedule without three week gaps in it they will have to allow the teams to run other races. WOO holds the trump card there as they have most track that run sprint cars in a strangle hold and not allowing them to run HL. Port Royal is one of the few tracks in a position to give up WOO to go with HL. I know Port would like to have WOO also but they also could allow WOO take their ball and go home. The fact that Port didn't have very good WOO dates made that an easier choice to make.



Michael_N
November 16, 2025 at 11:46:25 AM
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OK, I watched the video.......so you get your championship money for this year paid out monthly next year if you stay on the tour? And there is a payout for "others" that commit to the tour until they earn a card? You can theoretically win the championship and not get piad for it if you sponsors decide they want to do something else. And since it is no longer a "franchise" you can't sell it. Did I get this right?




Rodneyincanad
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If they are paying out this year's prizes over the course of next season, that scares me. I hope it isn't because they need the next year's income to meet this year's bills. And if that's the case it's BS. Point money should be a single cheque at the end of the season it was earned in.



highspeeddirt
November 16, 2025 at 05:21:57 PM
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Is this that "next level" that I have heard about for the last 20 years? I will pass on that level and go back to the 70's and 80's level. When innovation wasn't neutered by rules and corporate America had no idea who we were.





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