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RunWYB
August 28, 2025 at 03:04:23 PM
Joined: 04/25/2017
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Took a little time to load all point scores in WoOfrom 2021-2025 and data sorted this way let the conversation begin.

year
 
Pos.
Car
Driver
 
Total
Diff
Started
Wins
Top 5s
Top 10s
Entered
2021 1 49 Brad Sweet 10594 0 16 47 64 77 77
2022 1 49 Brad Sweet 9282 0 69 5 41 59  
2023 1 49 Brad Sweet 9660 0 71 11 44 64  
2024 1 2 David Gravel 9020 0 66 15 44 60  
2025 1 2 David Gravel 7102 0 52 12 45 51  
2021 2 2 David Gravel 10514 -80 77 11 41 63 77
2022 2 2 David Gravel 9234 -48 69 7 39 60  
2023 2 2 David Gravel 9600 -60 72 12 47 61  
2024 2 41 Carson Macedo 8940 -80 65 12 47 55  
2025 2 83 Michael Kofoid 6930 -172 52 9 31 44  
2021 3 41 Carson Macedo 10460 -134 77 11 41 65 77
2022 3 41 Carson Macedo 9168 -114 69 11 37 55  
2023 3 41 Carson Macedo 9492 -168 72 7 42 60  
2024 3 15 Donny Schatz 8780 -240 65 5 30 53  
2025 3 41 Carson Macedo 6874 -228 52 10 29 40  
2021 4 15 Donny Schatz 10458 -136 77 3 47 62 77
2022 4 15 Donny Schatz 9042 -240 69 5 28 55  
2023 4 18 Giovanni Scelzi 9160 -500 72 1 18 49  
2024 4 83 Michael Kofoid 8696 -324 65 7 32 53  
2025 4 1S Logan Schuchart 6746 -356 50 2 25 39  
2021 5 1S Logan Schuchart 10282 -312 77 7 37 60 77
2022 5 17 Sheldon Haudenschild 9018 -264 69 9 30 50  
2023 5 1S Logan Schuchart 9122 -538 71 6 26 46  
2024 5 17 Sheldon Haudenschild 8594 -426 66 8 29 47  
2025 5 17 Sheldon Haudenschild 6596 -506 52 2 21 33  
2021 6 17 Sheldon Haudenschild 10234 -360 77 8 35 54 77
2022 6 1S Logan Schuchart 8846 -436 69 5 26 44  
2023 6 15 Donny Schatz 9098 -562 71 4 22 43  
2024 6 18 Giovanni Scelzi 8576 -444 65 3 23 53  
2025 6 15 Donny Schatz 6496 -606 52 0 8 29  
2021 7 9 James McFadden 9794 -800 70 2 20 51 71
2022 7 83 James McFadden 8758 -524 69 1 22 39  
2023 7 17 Sheldon Haudenschild 9042 -618 70 3 18 44  
2024 7 1S Logan Schuchart 8542 -478 65 1 20 50  
2025 7 17B Bill Balog 6294 -808 50 2 12 26  
2021 8 11K Kraig Kinser 9364 -1230 73 0 4 20 77
2022 8 5 Spencer Bayston 8658 -624 67 2 16 39  
2023 8 5 Spencer Bayston 8818 -842 71 1 11 40  
2024 8 17B Bill Balog 7940 -1080 61 0 10 32  
2025 8 23 Garet Williamson 6206 -896 50 0 4 20  
2021 9 3Z Brock Zearfoss 9172 -1422 71 0 1 23 77
2022 9 1A Jacob Allen 8494 -788 68 4 15 36  
2023 9 3Z Brock Zearfoss 8222 -1438 60 0 1 8  
2024 9 3Z Brock Zearfoss 7536 -1484 58 0 1 16  
2025 9 7S Chris Windom 6168 -934 47 0 4 19  
2021 10 1A Jacob Allen 8812 -1782 63 0 3 20 77
2022 10 3Z Brock Zearfoss 8268 -1014 65 1 3 20  
2023 10 83 James McFadden 7836 -1824 63 6 20 42  
2024 10 7S Landon Crawley 7196 -1824 51 0 0 4  
2025 10 2C Cole Macedo 6032 -1070 44 0 4 14  
2021 11 2C Wayne Johnson 8409 -2185 60 0 0 10 76
2022 11 11K Kraig Kinser 7362 -1920 47 0 1 3  
2023 11 7S Robbie Price 7714 -1946 57 0 1 4  
2024 11 70 Kraig Kinser 6996 -2024 37 0 0 2  
2025 11 55 Hunter Schuerenberg 5864 -1238 41 0 1 13  
2021 12 7S Jason Sides -2548 0 1 4 67 46  
2022 12 20G Noah Gass 6975 -2307 32 0 0 2  
2023 12 20G Noah Gass 7400 -2260 43 0 0 1  
2024 12 6 Bill Rose 6212 -2808 14 0 0 0  
2025 12 6 Zach Hampton 5792 -1310 40 0 1 6  
2021 13 6 Bill Rose -3664 0 0 0 77 0  
2022 13 6 Bill Rose 6397 -2885 21 0 0 0  
2023 13 1A Jacob Allen 7178 -2482 41 0 4 14  
2024 13 23 Garet Williamson 4674 -4346 34 0 1 12  
2025 13 99 Skylar Gee 5666 -1436 34 0 2 7  
2021 14 8 Aaron Reutzel 6306 -4288 54 4 16 35 57
2022 14 9 Kasey Kahne 6256 -3026 29 0 2 6  
2023 14 6 Bill Rose Plainfield, IN 6590 -3070 16 0 0 0  
2024 14 24D Danny Sams 3394 -5626 20 0 0 0  
2025 14 28M Conner Morrell 5452 -1650 35 0 2 3  
2021 15 18 Giovanni Scelzi 6018 -4576 45 1 11 28 48
2022 15 18 Giovanni Scelzi 5644 -3638 45 2 6 28  
2023 15 9 Kasey Kahne 6314 -3346 45 0 2 11  
2024 15 88 Austin McCarl 2738 -6282 17 0 0 1  
2025 15 7BC Giovanni Scelzi 5250 -1852 41 1 7 28  
2021 16 11 Parker Price-Miller 5221 -5373 35 0 0 10 45
2022 16 7S Robbie Price 5184 -4098 34 0 2 2  
2023 16 24 Rico Abreu 6046 -3614 46 6 22 37  
2024 16 99 Skylar Gee 2736 -6284 18 0 0 4  
2025 16 18 Emerson Axsom 4306 -2796 31 0 3 12  
2021 17 19 Brent Marks 4664 -5930 35 3 10 21 36
2022 17 24 Rico Abreu 4838 -4444 38 1 8 19  
2023 17 83JR Michael Kofoid 6036 -3624 48 3 15 26  
2024 17 39M Anthony Macri 2668 -6352 20 0 5 12  
2025 17 39M Anthony Macri 2772 -4330 23 3 6 12  
2021 18 33M Mason Daniel -6274 0 0 0 46 9  
2022 18 83JR Kerry Madsen 3350 -5932 27 0 0 7  
2023 18 15H Sam Hafertepe 4178 -5482 24 0 0 1  
2024 18 27 Emerson Axsom 2354 -6666 19 0 3 7  
2025 18 24T Christopher  Thram 2416 -4686 16 0 0 0  
2021 19 21 Brian Brown 4078 -6516 32 0 4 12 34
2022 19 39M Anthony Macri 3348 -5934 25 2 9 16  
2023 19 8 Cory Eliason 3834 -5826 28 0 4 11  
2024 19 1A Jacob Allen 2334 -6686 15 0 1 4  
2025 19 45X Landon  Crawley 2342 -4760 8 0 0 1  
2021 20 83 Kasey Kahne 3950 -6644 32 0 2 11 32
2022 20 19 Brent Marks 3296 -5986 25 5 10 14  
2023 20 13 Justin Peck 3578 -6082 27 0 5 16  
2024 20 87 Aaron Reutzel 2184 -6836 16 1 6 8  
2025 20 15 Kerry Madsen 2174 -4928 15 0 2 7  
2021 21 15H Sam Hafertepe 3852 -6742 26 0 2 4 35
2022 21 21 Brian Brown 3140 -6142 22 1 5 9  
2023 21 21 Brian Brown 3434 -6226 27 1 5 8  
2024 21 10 Ryan Timms 2180 -6840 14 0 3 7  
2025 21 10 Ryan Timms 2100 -5002 17 1 2 7  
2021 22 14 Kerry Madsen 3588 -7006 25 3 15 21 27
2022 22 8 Aaron Reutzel 2982 -6300 20 0 2 8  
2023 22 14 Cole Macedo 3058 -6602 20 0 1 3  
2024 22 2KS Cory Eliason 2156 -6864 13 0 1 2  
2025 22 21H Brady Bacon 2078 -5024 9 0 1 3  
2021 23 5 Spencer Bayston 3362 -7232 27 2 3 8 28
2022 23 3 Ayrton Gennetten 2680 -6602 15 0 0 1  
2023 23 19 Brent Marks 2986 -6674 22 2 10 17  
2024 23 G5 Gage  Pulkrabek 2128 -6892 3 0 0 0  
2025 23 88 Austin McCarl 1974 -5128 15 0 0 4  
2021 24 26 Cory Eliason 3324 -7270 27 0 2 7 28
2022 24 71 Cory Eliason 2524 -6758 18 0 2 9  
2023 24 71 Parker Price 2976 -6684 21 0 1 3  
2025 24 14 Spencer Bayston 1960 -5142 14 0 1 3  
2021 25 24 Rico Abreu 2842 -7752 20 0 2 9 25
2022 25 15H Sam Hafertepe 2502 -6780 14 0 1 2  
2023 25 1T Tanner  Holmes 2860 -6800 18 0 3 7  
2024 25 7BC Tyler Courtney 2122 -6898 16 3 7 13  
2025 25 G5 Gage  Pulkrabek 1914 -5188 7 0 0 0  



RunWYB
August 29, 2025 at 08:22:08 AM
Joined: 04/25/2017
Posts: 124
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For the record I do not perceive the WoO fields anymore or any less watered down.

A second traveling series (High Limit) now has a group of travelers who will now go race a WoO show when HL is off.....this has caused the watered down perception as it goes without saying when the combined 24-26 travelers get together it is huge.....

I love having more sprintcar racing and two series provides it.....if pushed for my lean - I'm a slight lean towards the WoO.



RunWYB
August 29, 2025 at 08:52:56 AM
Joined: 04/25/2017
Posts: 124
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This message was edited on August 29, 2025 at 09:14:31 AM by RunWYB

So breaking this down regarding watered down I looked at the years 21, 22, & 23 pre High Limit.

When looking at the top six in points those years the only driver no longer with the outlaws is Sweet who was champion in 21, 22, & 23.

Conversely positions 7-10 those very same years.  Sheldon's 7th in 2023 is the only outlaw still on tour and Spenser Bayston 8th place in 22 & 23 is now HL. 

So, Brad Sweet & Spencer Bayston are the only two on the High Limit Roster who placed in the top 10 21 thru 23.

So the 2025 WoO roster still has six of the top ten on tour. 

Interestingly enough the following drivers who finished in the top 10 in WoO points during the 21, 22, & 23, seasons are no longer on any roster or charter.

 Kraig kinser 8th in 21.

Brock Zearfoss who was 9th , 10th & 9th in those years.

James McFadden who was 7th, 7th & 10th in those years.

Jacob Allen who was 10th and 9th in 21 & 22.

It is my opinion the the start of a second series with huge streaming rights has brought an infusion of sponorship money (good equipment) and young talent!  it has been awesome for the sport.

Go back to 1 traveling series and half the streming opportunities, chances are there wouldn't be nearly all the new good equipment or better yet half the opportunities for hungry young drivers looking to establish themselves.




dirtfan
August 29, 2025 at 06:38:14 PM
Joined: 01/03/2005
Posts: 57
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Reply to:
Posted By: RunWYB on August 29 2025 at 08:52:56 AM

So breaking this down regarding watered down I looked at the years 21, 22, & 23 pre High Limit.

When looking at the top six in points those years the only driver no longer with the outlaws is Sweet who was champion in 21, 22, & 23.

Conversely positions 7-10 those very same years.  Sheldon's 7th in 2023 is the only outlaw still on tour and Spenser Bayston 8th place in 22 & 23 is now HL. 

So, Brad Sweet & Spencer Bayston are the only two on the High Limit Roster who placed in the top 10 21 thru 23.

So the 2025 WoO roster still has six of the top ten on tour. 

Interestingly enough the following drivers who finished in the top 10 in WoO points during the 21, 22, & 23, seasons are no longer on any roster or charter.

 Kraig kinser 8th in 21.

Brock Zearfoss who was 9th , 10th & 9th in those years.

James McFadden who was 7th, 7th & 10th in those years.

Jacob Allen who was 10th and 9th in 21 & 22.

It is my opinion the the start of a second series with huge streaming rights has brought an infusion of sponorship money (good equipment) and young talent!  it has been awesome for the sport.

Go back to 1 traveling series and half the streming opportunities, chances are there wouldn't be nearly all the new good equipment or better yet half the opportunities for hungry young drivers looking to establish themselves.



Thanks for all the work and commentary.  It IS interesting to look over and compare.





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