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MSPN
August 28, 2019 at 09:16:55 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on August 27 2019 at 11:42:17 PM

"blatant cheating"??? I don't think the crews gained any advantage, nor were they trying to. They screwed up on a technicality

Lots of people are bashing W2, but if I had driven 5 hrs. for this show (which is what it takes me) & they DQed all these guys, I would have been VERY pissed. Don't know if i would have left or decided to boycott, but i would have felt like my time had been wasted. I'm sure the drivers & teams were pissed, & track owners too

Sure they broke a rule, but the punishment hurt EVERYBODY... maybe they should have been moved to the back, or even given a monetary fine, but DQed???? Allstars cut off their nose to spite their face

No harm, no foul

Any penalties for my last 2 cliches? wink



To all of you 'upset' with sapheads post, get real...................Almost every single post he has ever made is a tongue in cheek laugher.  Shirley and I mean that, you folks have read enough of them, get with the program please.  Either be on the bus or be under it, okay???



MSPN
August 28, 2019 at 10:20:57 AM
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Most people are bashing W2 because of his constant Whining on the subject.  You made your point about 30 posts ago, now move on, get over it and enjoy life, if you can.  I'm guessing you're the type of guy who finds problems with far too many things in life.  My job in this sport for many years was to take photos, sell them and write stories.  I once drove from Owosso, MI to Evansville, IN (Haubstadt) 461 miles, only to have one cloud come over and rain out the race 15 minutes after I got there.  I then turned around and drove 461 miles home.  There are some things you can't control in life and weather is one of them, so are silly rules that you don't know about.  There is a change coming, Tony has already said that, now get on with life, it's missing you....



W2Motorsports
August 28, 2019 at 10:51:19 AM
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Posted By: MSPN on August 28 2019 at 10:20:57 AM

Most people are bashing W2 because of his constant Whining on the subject.  You made your point about 30 posts ago, now move on, get over it and enjoy life, if you can.  I'm guessing you're the type of guy who finds problems with far too many things in life.  My job in this sport for many years was to take photos, sell them and write stories.  I once drove from Owosso, MI to Evansville, IN (Haubstadt) 461 miles, only to have one cloud come over and rain out the race 15 minutes after I got there.  I then turned around and drove 461 miles home.  There are some things you can't control in life and weather is one of them, so are silly rules that you don't know about.  There is a change coming, Tony has already said that, now get on with life, it's missing you....



I'm responding to people who are replying to my posts, as long as people keep quoting my posts or mentioning me in this case I would think it should be expected that I'll respond to that. I've stopped creating new posts about it on facebook, or twitter, or really have stopped posting about it anywhere but in this thread. Good news though, in about five hours I'll be in a plane over the Atlantic ocean so won't have many chances to post from that point on. I do understand your point about the weather and I'm sure we've all experienced that, however like you said nothing can be done about the weather. Silly rules on the other hand. If Tony fixes it I'll be happy and that will be that. 




MSPN
August 28, 2019 at 11:10:35 AM
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Nice response, it appears you are over it and heading on with life, cheers!  What part of England are you from?  Just a guess, lol...



W2Motorsports
August 28, 2019 at 11:22:39 AM
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Posted By: MSPN on August 28 2019 at 11:10:35 AM

Nice response, it appears you are over it and heading on with life, cheers!  What part of England are you from?  Just a guess, lol...



I'm from the "New" part of England (Maine) origionally - I've never done an ancestry test or whatever to learn more than just that my ancestors are from England (obviously lol). Looking forward to my first trip to London and now Scotland as well - and I'm even supporting a race track. Silverstone for the World Endurance Championship which should be pretty different. 



MSPN
August 28, 2019 at 12:00:39 PM
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This message was edited on August 28, 2019 at 12:09:30 PM by MSPN

If you are interested I have a pretty good friend who is a photographer/write of motorsports and lives in London.  If you want to talk with somebody who has been all over the USA as a fan and shooter and knows all about the English racing scene (modifieds, they don't have sprints, but they do have a wing on them, lol).  Heck, I have a photo friend and writer of Motorsports in Holland as well, and a good connection in New Zealand and many more in Australia if you head there.  Let me know and I will hook you up....

I just looked at his FB page and they have a race outside of London somewhere this Saturday with 79 winged stock cars entered, might be something to see....




amyjur
August 28, 2019 at 12:18:11 PM
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This message was edited on August 28, 2019 at 12:20:59 PM by amyjur

There are few points here that if you haven't been following the entire situation are easy to overlook. When the Allstars were here in late April there was no such rule. This rule didn't go in effect until late June and I say go into effect loosely. This was race 4 of a 4 race weekend and in the other 3 races this rule was never mentioned. In those first 3 races, this rule wasn't being followed or in any way enforced. If it was going to be in place and enforced anywhere it should have been Grandview but it wasn't. Forward to race 4 and in the driver's meeting the existence of this rule and the fact that this rule is now going to be followed to the letter is touched upon but only lightly. A complete explanation of the rule and the penalty for violating it is never mentioned. Why it was put in place that night is unclear. There has been mention of safety but it should be noted the entire infield is and has always been open to anyone purchasing a pit pass. In fact, on that night the teams were all thoughout the infield with no restrictions during time trials. Bottom line, there was an unnecessary new rule that served no legitimate purpose now being enforced when it had never been enforced in PA before and the fact that it was being enforced was never really clear. As a fan, you feel like you got snookered on a technicality that none of these teams saw coming. BTW, if it had happened to more Allstar teams, I'm still unhappy.  Now it's time to move on. Everyone has to learn to do better from this. 



MSPN
August 28, 2019 at 12:31:23 PM
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Posted By: amyjur on August 28 2019 at 12:18:11 PM

There are few points here that if you haven't been following the entire situation are easy to overlook. When the Allstars were here in late April there was no such rule. This rule didn't go in effect until late June and I say go into effect loosely. This was race 4 of a 4 race weekend and in the other 3 races this rule was never mentioned. In those first 3 races, this rule wasn't being followed or in any way enforced. If it was going to be in place and enforced anywhere it should have been Grandview but it wasn't. Forward to race 4 and in the driver's meeting the existence of this rule and the fact that this rule is now going to be followed to the letter is touched upon but only lightly. A complete explanation of the rule and the penalty for violating it is never mentioned. Why it was put in place that night is unclear. There has been mention of safety but it should be noted the entire infield is and has always been open to anyone purchasing a pit pass. In fact, on that night the teams were all thoughout the infield with no restrictions during time trials. Bottom line, there was an unnecessary new rule that served no legitimate purpose now being enforced when it had never been enforced in PA before and the fact that it was being enforced was never really clear. As a fan, you feel like you got snookered on a technicality that none of these teams saw coming. BTW, if it had happened to more Allstar teams, I'm still unhappy.  Now it's time to move on. Everyone has to learn to do better from this. 



ENOUGH, it was time to move on 100+ posts ago, thank you....



RodinCanada
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August 28, 2019 at 02:05:15 PM
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Posted By: MSPN on August 28 2019 at 09:16:55 AM

To all of you 'upset' with sapheads post, get real...................Almost every single post he has ever made is a tongue in cheek laugher.  Shirley and I mean that, you folks have read enough of them, get with the program please.  Either be on the bus or be under it, okay???



Ya dont take him too seriously. Nice to have the fresh take, which reminds me where is the guy who talks about himself like he isnt himself? The 3rd person king??

Is it ok to get off topic after 8 pages and almost 200 posts, or does this disqualify me?


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MSPN
August 28, 2019 at 02:12:22 PM
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You mean Super Chuck, you should have been around here many years ago when he posted on almost a regular basis.  He's a Knoxville regular with a great wife and kids and probably a bit too busy to post as much anymore....



MandGRacing96
August 29, 2019 at 01:38:38 PM
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Posted By: MSPN on August 28 2019 at 02:12:22 PM

You mean Super Chuck, you should have been around here many years ago when he posted on almost a regular basis.  He's a Knoxville regular with a great wife and kids and probably a bit too busy to post as much anymore....



http://www.allstarsprint.com/news/?i=77511



bgtexpress
August 29, 2019 at 04:04:40 PM
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Well Danny Dietrich just sent out a tweat saying he has spoken to Smoke and is ready to put the BAPS incident behing him and will support the All Stars in September in Central Pa.......I hope the other drivers and fans do the same. Mistakes were made and acknowleged....Time to move on.




RodinCanada
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August 29, 2019 at 10:47:18 PM
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With the prize money this weekend it's probably not the best time to start a boycott , better to following and let bye gone be bye gones. Holding grudges only hurts yourself anyway.

Those early rains have sure filled in the schedule.

Reutzel will win one and Ruetzel will win another, other 2 are up for grabs.


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RodinCanada
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Just wondering why WCS wouldnt bump the Pete Jacobs memorial to Monday instead of cancel it and run a regular purse.  Why not cancel the smaller show?


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bgtexpress
September 01, 2019 at 09:30:30 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on September 01 2019 at 08:24:02 PM

Just wondering why WCS wouldnt bump the Pete Jacobs memorial to Monday instead of cancel it and run a regular purse.  Why not cancel the smaller show?



My guess is because tomorrow is a holiday and they probably figured they won't get as large of a crowd on Monday with Tuesday being a work day to justify paying $12K to win.......thus kept the smaller purse race and cancelled the larger purse race.




Kingpin2014
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September 02, 2019 at 10:50:31 AM
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Posted By: bgtexpress on September 01 2019 at 09:30:30 PM

My guess is because tomorrow is a holiday and they probably figured they won't get as large of a crowd on Monday with Tuesday being a work day to justify paying $12K to win.......thus kept the smaller purse race and cancelled the larger purse race.



This is the answer and the track has said if there is a good fan turnout they’ll raise the purse.



bgtexpress
September 02, 2019 at 11:15:05 AM
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Posted By: Kingpin2014 on September 02 2019 at 10:50:31 AM

This is the answer and the track has said if there is a good fan turnout they’ll raise the purse.



That seems very fair and I am sure most of the drivers understand the situation.



RodinCanada
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September 03, 2019 at 10:50:42 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on August 29 2019 at 10:47:18 PM

With the prize money this weekend it's probably not the best time to start a boycott , better to following and let bye gone be bye gones. Holding grudges only hurts yourself anyway.

Those early rains have sure filled in the schedule.

Reutzel will win one and Ruetzel will win another, other 2 are up for grabs.



I missed it by .024 seconds.


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