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Points
August 27, 2019 at 04:20:20 AM
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Well we should all be clear on the rule by now. stay in the box. problem solved.



saphead
August 27, 2019 at 07:03:09 AM
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I'm proud of the Posse fans, they were so dissapointed in their own local teams blatant cheating that they all got up and walked out with their heads down. 

I always knew they had integrity. 

 

 



SAF92
August 27, 2019 at 07:16:47 AM
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Posted By: W2Motorsports on August 26 2019 at 07:21:15 PM

They did screw me out of $22. I never would of gone in the first place if Lance, Danny, Anthony and Ryan were not there. That is the majority of the PA Posse, and certainly the best two. So I didnt get to watch the RACE I paid to watch, instead the All Stars tried to force some bullshit joke of a "race" (sort of how the wwe is "wrestling" ) on the fans and hundreds of them left. I do hope those fans remember that in a few weeks when they are deciding whether to support the bullshit that is the ASCOC, but whether they do or not it wont change the fact that I wont be there. 

I had been an All Star supporter, you can look back in my posts to confirm if you care to. But what I witnessed last night was the single biggest piece of bullsit I've ever seen at a race track. The Outlaw format sucks, the teams have huge budgets that dwarf the PA teams, and the crowds are nuts but one thing you can be sure of is that they dont do stuff like that. I prefer our weekly shows, but I'll go to an Outlaw show if it's in town but after last night I'll find something else to do when the All Stars are here. Like I said before, here in PA I can go to 70 races a year without ever even considering supporting one of those bullshit shows.



"I do hope those fans remember that in a few weeks when they are deciding whether to support the bullshit that is the ASCOC, but whether they do or not it wont change the fact that I wont be there."

 

^^^Well in a few weeks the All-stars are coming back to PA and your local tracks will pay the sanctioning fees. So by boycotting you are only hurting your local tracks. You notice this drama between locals and sanctioning bodies like ASCoC/WoO only exists in PA? Bunch of fucking crybabies, simple as that.




W2Motorsports
August 27, 2019 at 07:40:47 AM
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Posted By: SAF92 on August 27 2019 at 07:16:47 AM

"I do hope those fans remember that in a few weeks when they are deciding whether to support the bullshit that is the ASCOC, but whether they do or not it wont change the fact that I wont be there."

 

^^^Well in a few weeks the All-stars are coming back to PA and your local tracks will pay the sanctioning fees. So by boycotting you are only hurting your local tracks. You notice this drama between locals and sanctioning bodies like ASCoC/WoO only exists in PA? Bunch of fucking crybabies, simple as that.



As explained previously:

Boycotting the series will cause attendance to be lower which would be the only way a track would consider dropping the ASCOC sanction. In reality the crowd at both races will be fine, even if everyone who was at Baps (not likely) didnt go to Port they would still have a good crowd.

Let's be honest if this had been Knoxville and they DQed Brian Brown, Austin Mccarl, Terry Mccarl, and Kerry Madsen on lap one the crowd would have been just as rowdy. It was bullshit plain and simple.



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August 27, 2019 at 07:41:07 AM
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Posted By: Points on August 27 2019 at 04:20:20 AM

Well we should all be clear on the rule by now. stay in the box. problem solved.



Staying in the box too long can get you on the 18 year payment plan. 

Blake



longtimefan
August 27, 2019 at 08:06:22 AM
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This message was edited on August 27, 2019 at 08:07:00 AM by longtimefan

Damned Allstars, now Strawser is not going to Port Royal next week all because of them.




Nick14
August 27, 2019 at 08:17:27 AM
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Posted By: W2Motorsports on August 26 2019 at 08:18:43 PM

Congratultions - I hope you buy two tickets to each one. That way the attendance is even better at the Ohio shows and maye the ASCOC will stay there instead of coming to PA to ruin races here. 

As I said previously, it would of been bullshit no matter who got DQed, I bitched about it with Larson too. But you are right I wouldn't have got up and left if it had been All Stars because I was there to see my favorite drivers, but I would still be on here talking about what a shit show it was no matter who got DQed because I want to see a race. The Posse/ASCOC/Outlaws rivalry is good because of the talent on all sides. When you remove one side you take away from the race overall. 



Don't worry, I won't have to buy two tickets. Attica & Wayne County usually have good enough attendance without needing people doubling up on ticket purchases. Now a few of us may end up getting in the car and going to Port Royal next weekend to help compensate for all of the offended people who choose to stay away from a perfectly good race. May not make a dent but every little bit helps

And they didn't ruin the race and they did not remove one side away, the one side removed themselves......from the coned box. So their cars were removed from the track. Granted, yes maybe too harsh of a punishment but a consistent one. But now it sounds like it will be addressed and changed so everything is good for me and others.



W2Motorsports
August 27, 2019 at 08:17:34 AM
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Posted By: saphead on August 27 2019 at 07:03:09 AM

I'm proud of the Posse fans, they were so dissapointed in their own local teams blatant cheating that they all got up and walked out with their heads down. 

I always knew they had integrity. 

 

 



Yeah that is why everyone walked out. If they want to treat all of the crew members like cattle they should start branding them too that way at least they will know for sure who belongs to which crew. Or I guess they can stick to their current method of checking the drivers birth certificate, if its from Pennsylvania - disqualified. 



W2Motorsports
August 27, 2019 at 08:22:21 AM
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Posted By: Nick14 on August 27 2019 at 08:17:27 AM

Don't worry, I won't have to buy two tickets. Attica & Wayne County usually have good enough attendance without needing people doubling up on ticket purchases. Now a few of us may end up getting in the car and going to Port Royal next weekend to help compensate for all of the offended people who choose to stay away from a perfectly good race. May not make a dent but every little bit helps

And they didn't ruin the race and they did not remove one side away, the one side removed themselves......from the coned box. So their cars were removed from the track. Granted, yes maybe too harsh of a punishment but a consistent one. But now it sounds like it will be addressed and changed so everything is good for me and others.



I'm glad you are coming to Pennsylvania, make sure to support all the sponsors of the drivers while you are here. It's their only likely source of income since they will probably be disqualified by the All Stars. I highly recommend Sandoes. 

I'll give you an updated list of races I'm avoiding when I get back from the trip I'm taking in place of going to the 50, that way you can take my place at all of them. 

Thanks again!

Jeff.  




MandGRacing96
August 27, 2019 at 09:02:29 AM
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Posted By: W2Motorsports on August 27 2019 at 08:22:21 AM

I'm glad you are coming to Pennsylvania, make sure to support all the sponsors of the drivers while you are here. It's their only likely source of income since they will probably be disqualified by the All Stars. I highly recommend Sandoes. 

I'll give you an updated list of races I'm avoiding when I get back from the trip I'm taking in place of going to the 50, that way you can take my place at all of them. 

Thanks again!

Jeff.  



WOW some of you are really butt hurt about this.  I remember a Narc race, in the 80s, where they bent over backwards for Brent Kaeding.  Fans were pissed.  Alot of em bitched and moaned, said theyd never return.  I was there the next night, as were alot of other people.  And it was great race.  Whyd I go back?  Because people deserve 2nd chances.  Just like the All Stars do.  Tony said theyd get this straightened out and they will.  But hey all you haters keep on hating.  I cant wait for my first trip to PA for the All Stars next year.  



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August 27, 2019 at 09:09:50 AM
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Posted By: W2Motorsports on August 27 2019 at 08:17:34 AM

Yeah that is why everyone walked out. If they want to treat all of the crew members like cattle they should start branding them too that way at least they will know for sure who belongs to which crew. Or I guess they can stick to their current method of checking the drivers birth certificate, if its from Pennsylvania - disqualified. 



The one thing I've taken away from this whole thread is that you are quite dim. 



RodinCanada
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August 27, 2019 at 09:13:02 AM
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To the comment 3 pages back about having all the crews together to eliminate crew members from signaling to their driver.... before I was finished reading the post i already thought of how easy it would be to continue. Get a friend with a pit pass to stand at the teams desired location and signal the driver for the crew.

I understand keeping the work area fenced off and limit car work to that area but I dont understand why crews have to stand here while fans can stand there and its safer that way.

A human body is as vulnerable to the next one regardless of the clothes they are wearing.


Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!


larsonfan
August 27, 2019 at 09:20:23 AM
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Posted By: Nick14 on August 27 2019 at 08:17:27 AM

Don't worry, I won't have to buy two tickets. Attica & Wayne County usually have good enough attendance without needing people doubling up on ticket purchases. Now a few of us may end up getting in the car and going to Port Royal next weekend to help compensate for all of the offended people who choose to stay away from a perfectly good race. May not make a dent but every little bit helps

And they didn't ruin the race and they did not remove one side away, the one side removed themselves......from the coned box. So their cars were removed from the track. Granted, yes maybe too harsh of a punishment but a consistent one. But now it sounds like it will be addressed and changed so everything is good for me and others.



Nick, you and I butted heads a few weeks ago, but I completely agree with all three of your posts on this thread. I too will continue to support the All Stars. I wouldn't blame them if they dropped the PA races in 2020 and offered those dates up to Ohio and other regions. I doubt they'd have any problems filling those dates in. And cudos to them once again for stepping up to support Brad Doty with his Classic at Attica soon.

I've seen some good hissy fits here over the years, but W2Motorports, yours takes first place. Nobody takes Strawser seriously anyway, so his meltdown doesn't count! Smile (just kidding BStrawser!)

A other have said - mistakes are made. Shit happens, and life is not fair.

If I'm not mistaken, the sun came up yesterday morning in Central PA and everyone survived.



W2Motorsports
August 27, 2019 at 09:21:56 AM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on August 27 2019 at 09:09:50 AM

The one thing I've taken away from this whole thread is that you are quite dim. 



If you say so buddy. 



SpcJay
August 27, 2019 at 09:22:32 AM
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Posted By: igor68 on August 26 2019 at 09:28:50 PM

 

Oh please not sure what race you were at  50% walked out haha be lucky if it was 2 %  and you missed a pretty good race. leaving was stupid. who exactly do you think you leaving hurt?                 it wasnt concessions they were already out of everything trying to sell what they had at half price but they couldnt work the cash register or subtract.Only thing you hurt by your crying and whining  was the snyder family  who was just trying to have a race remebering justin.  The races will go on without you and the 2% of people who would pay for a hooker and not get laid. so again who exactly did you hurt by leaving umm they had all the money you were gonna spend anyway the other 98% of fans didnt care if you left pretty sure the drivers all got paid your leaving affected well  nobody  great protest!

 

 



That's awfully bold of you to speak for the family. If they were not such good people, I guarantee you they likely would have left as well. His brother and father both have posted since stating they were extremely unhappy with the decision and that it ruined the night hoinoring their son/brother and that the race likely won;t be ASCoC sanctioned as well. Not to mention the head promoter of the event, Justin;s brother, has heavy sponsorship stake on the 48 car as well....soo I can;t imagine he was very happy not having his car out there with a chance to honoR his brother as a result of stupidity. 

Enough people left that after the race that All Star announcers/officials and more were commenting on it in victory lane. Talking about how they couldn't beleive how many people left, the middle fingers and more that were hurled towards the tower. It certainly didn't go unnoticed, that;s for sure. 




larsonfan
August 27, 2019 at 09:26:00 AM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on August 27 2019 at 09:09:50 AM

The one thing I've taken away from this whole thread is that you are quite dim. 



Should have seen his Twitter posts yesterday. He needed some good cheese with his whine.



SpcJay
August 27, 2019 at 09:26:05 AM
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Posted By: saphead on August 27 2019 at 07:03:09 AM

I'm proud of the Posse fans, they were so dissapointed in their own local teams blatant cheating that they all got up and walked out with their heads down. 

I always knew they had integrity. 

 

 



Cheating? Come on now, this is pure ignorance at it's best. May I also add that apparently this rule only applies come feature time? So during nthe night the crewmembers can be wherever they please, but come feature time suddenly the box is a thing. When the owner and a driver (Tony) comes out and says it was made for one track specifically due to their insurace, it doesn;lt really apply everywhere and I think it was the wrong decision...well I think that speaks for itself. He applauded Eric for standing by his decision and being consistenjt in the moment, but overall he said it was not right and everybody had plenty of reason to be mad. Not to mention, when you get DQ'd drivers usually don't get paid and Tony paid out all of the guys based on their position finish. 



W2Motorsports
August 27, 2019 at 09:26:50 AM
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Posted By: larsonfan on August 27 2019 at 09:20:23 AM

Nick, you and I butted heads a few weeks ago, but I completely agree with all three of your posts on this thread. I too will continue to support the All Stars. I wouldn't blame them if they dropped the PA races in 2020 and offered those dates up to Ohio and other regions. I doubt they'd have any problems filling those dates in. And cudos to them once again for stepping up to support Brad Doty with his Classic at Attica soon.

I've seen some good hissy fits here over the years, but W2Motorports, yours takes first place. Nobody takes Strawser seriously anyway, so his meltdown doesn't count! Smile (just kidding BStrawser!)

A other have said - mistakes are made. Shit happens, and life is not fair.

If I'm not mistaken, the sun came up yesterday morning in Central PA and everyone survived.



It's not just on 4m, I'm posting everywhere. Because it is bullshit and if you don't bitch about it nothing is going to change. That is a fact of life. That was bullshit, and I don't ever want to risk exposing myself to something like that ever again. Not to mention the rest of the fans who were robbed of a good race as well for no reason that had any impact on the race itself at all. You don't need to take my word for it you can jump on Facebook and Twitter and look at even more complaining from fans. Hell, even the father of Justin Snyder whom the race was in remembrance of vowed to never sponsor another All Star race - and of course I don't blame him. I know I'll be offering up some type of monetary award for next years unsanctioned salute race. 




W2Motorsports
August 27, 2019 at 09:28:58 AM
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Posted By: larsonfan on August 27 2019 at 09:26:00 AM

Should have seen his Twitter posts yesterday. He needed some good cheese with his whine.



I'm glad you noticed! Hopefully people significantly more important than you also noticed!



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Posted By: W2Motorsports on August 26 2019 at 07:21:15 PM

They did screw me out of $22. I never would of gone in the first place if Lance, Danny, Anthony and Ryan were not there. That is the majority of the PA Posse, and certainly the best two. So I didnt get to watch the RACE I paid to watch, instead the All Stars tried to force some bullshit joke of a "race" (sort of how the wwe is "wrestling" ) on the fans and hundreds of them left. I do hope those fans remember that in a few weeks when they are deciding whether to support the bullshit that is the ASCOC, but whether they do or not it wont change the fact that I wont be there. 

I had been an All Star supporter, you can look back in my posts to confirm if you care to. But what I witnessed last night was the single biggest piece of bullsit I've ever seen at a race track. The Outlaw format sucks, the teams have huge budgets that dwarf the PA teams, and the crowds are nuts but one thing you can be sure of is that they dont do stuff like that. I prefer our weekly shows, but I'll go to an Outlaw show if it's in town but after last night I'll find something else to do when the All Stars are here. Like I said before, here in PA I can go to 70 races a year without ever even considering supporting one of those bullshit shows.



So do you have a magic 8 ball that let you know that Lance , Danny, Anthony and Ryan were going to be there?  Would you have been cheated if you walked thru the gate and those drivers were not there?  If they weren't there would you have turned around and walked out? My guess is no and you would be complaining today that those guys were not there and you were not going to buy anything from them and we should boycott them for cheating you out of seeing them.





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