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October 30, 2007 at
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you don't seem to want to post your results - maybe it is beneath your IQ rating to mess with such trivial things, but you sure do have a lot of ideas on how others should vote...makes you wonder if you are really a Ron Paul supporter or another frustrated hilree campaign worker?
either way you might still have Zucchini to fall back on once Paul modifies his platform to accept a third party endorsement.
either way, have a nice day and remember that 98 out of 100 people polled do not support your guy in the primary.
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
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Huh. Finally, some hard evidence that shows that BRR and I don't agree on one single thing.
At the top:
Dennis Kucinich Score: 55 (in agreement on every single issue)
Mike Gravel Score: 46 Bill Richardson Score: 46
At the bottom:
Sam Brownback Score: 6 Mike Huckabee Score: 3
Duncan Hunter Score: 3
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Posted By: BigRightRear on October 30 2007 at 11:40:05 AM
you don't seem to want to post your results - maybe it is beneath your IQ rating to mess with such trivial things, but you sure do have a lot of ideas on how others should vote...makes you wonder if you are really a Ron Paul supporter or another frustrated hilree campaign worker?
either way you might still have Zucchini to fall back on once Paul modifies his platform to accept a third party endorsement.
either way, have a nice day and remember that 98 out of 100 people polled do not support your guy in the primary.
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Once again more proof of how narrow minded you really are.
Just keep typing. You make me smile with the way you twist names around. That is damn clever.
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Posted By: DonnM38 on October 30 2007 at 10:13:26 AM
oooo....now it takes balls to post something on here. LOL
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You're just jealous because I have balls. LOL.
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Balls are necessary? Crap. I guess I'll be putting up an ad on Craigslist looking for a spare set.
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finally a respectable liberal who is not afraid to admit it!
timely mention - Zuchinni steps into the nutbag spotlight:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8SJOG9O3&show_article=1
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PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich questioned President Bush's mental health in light of comments he made about a nuclear Iran precipitating World War III. "I seriously believe we have to start asking questions about his mental health," Kucinich, an Ohio congressman, said in an interview with The Philadelphia Inquirer's editorial board on Tuesday. "There's something wrong. He does not seem to understand his words have real impact."
Kucinich, known for his liberal views, trails far behind the leading candidates in most Democratic polls. He was in Philadelphia for a debate at Drexel University.
Bush made the remarks at a news conference earlier this month.
He said: "I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them (Iran) from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."
Kucinich said he doesn't believe his comments about the president's mental health are irresponsible, according to a story posted on the newspaper's Web site.
"You cannot be a president of the United States who's wanton in his expression of violence," Kucinich said. "There's a lot of people who need care. He might be one of them. If there isn't something wrong with him, then there's something wrong with us. This, to me, is a very serious question."
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DonnM38 - still can't post your results i see! - here is the full story for those of you who cannot put 2 + 2 together - or are simply only paying attention to what they are spoon fed by their favorite blog.
Note that this is very OLD NEWS and common knowledge among folks who follow politics for the entertainment value.
Colors have been added to embolden the rainbow coalition.
http://lists.envirolink.org/pipermail/ar-news/Week-of-Mon-20031110/009981.html
AR-News: Kucinich hopes U.S. is ready for vegan president jim robertson wolfcrest at hotmail.com Wed Nov 12 17:32:03 EST 2003
Kucinich hopes U.S. is ready for vegan president
Long-shot Democratic candidate says his only vice is being 'a member of
Congress'
Mark Leibovich, Washington Post Wednesday, November 12, 2003
Washington -- Dennis Kucinich is hungry for the nation's biggest job and a
plate of kidney beans.
At the moment, the kidney beans are more realistic. He walks into his
favorite Capitol Hill restaurant -- Taverna the Greek Islands -- and orders
the beans. They arrive in a few minutes, along with Kucinich's usual plate
of hummus with wheat pita bread, sliced zucchini sauteed in olive oil, a
tomato and onion relish, a Greek salad without feta cheese and a pot of
boiling water with lemon wedges.
This is comfort food for the long-shot Democratic presidential candidate. He
has spent a long day of campaigning in New Hampshire followed by a flurry of
votes in Congress. He is, in all likelihood, the first major party vegan to
run for president. He ingests no beef, poultry, fish, dairy or animal
products.
Kucinich also eschews processed foods, caffeine, alcohol and tobacco.
Does he indulge any vices? "Yes," he says, "I'm a member of Congress."
Not for long, if all goes according to Kucinich's plan. He envisions waking
up in the White House on Jan. 21, 2005, and sitting down to a presidential
breakfast of oat groats sprinkled with walnuts, bananas, coconut and
raisins, a bowl of miso soup, wheat toast and a plate of fresh vegetables.
Is red-meat America ready for a vegan president? Or, more to the point, is
red-meat America ready to elect a vegan president who is Dennis Kucinich,
57, a figure whose long-shot status in the presidential race is a result of
many factors besides his diet. He is little-known nationally, barely shows
up in polls and his signature political experience -- mayor of Cleveland in
the 1970s -- landed the city in financial ruin.
But at the very least, the prospective First Vegan eats extremely well --
and as any candidate will attest, eating well is not easy in the long,
bustling course of a campaign. Eating vegan would be nearly impossible,
except Kucinich has a network of people across the country who will secure
him a righteous meal on short notice.
And yes, he says, America is ready for a vegan president. He doesn't
proselytize. "Food is so personal to people," he says. He doesn't bring up
the subject of his diet and voters never ask him about it.
Kucinich embraced veganism nine years ago at the inspiration of a former
girlfriend, Yelena Boxer. Before his conversion, Kucinich says, he would
typically eat breakfasts that included steak, eggs, cereal and six glazed
doughnuts.
Today, he weighs 135 pounds, which is down from a top weight of 158. He has
more energy, requires less sleep (five hours a night) and almost never gets
sick -- all of which are essential to surviving the grind of a campaign.
"I've ended up with a level of energy and health and clarity that goes
beyond anything I've ever had in my life," says Kucinich.
"It just makes sense for me in every way," he says of his diet, which he
says conforms to his commitment to peace, tolerance and the humane treatment
of animals.
Kucinich is not perfect on animals. He owns at least one pair of leather
shoes. As president, he would not impose his vegan outlook. At state
dinners, the Kucinich White House would offer non-vegan as well as vegan
fare. A world of carnivorous dignitaries can rest easy.
As the plates are cleared, Kucinich goes off-vegan and on-message: He
reiterates his opposition to the war in Iraq, his commitment to universal
health care and his prediction that the race for the Democratic nomination
will not be settled until the convention.
He wipes away a smudge of hummus and concludes his testimony on self,
country and diet with a question: "Is this story running in the food
section?"
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/11/12/MNGSL2VEOG7.DTL
The thinking [person] must oppose all cruel customs no matter how deeply
rooted in tradition and surrounded by a halo. When we have a choice, we must
avoid bringing torment and injury into the life of another...
--Albert Schweitzer
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Well, I guess I don't agree with him on EVERY issue then. My personal belief is that if we weren't supposed to eat and wear animals, God wouldn't have made them out of meat and leather.
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Unless he's 112 years old, the vegan way of life hasn't done wonders for Dennis!
BRR and Albert Schweitzer?????
"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just
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Unless he's 112 years old, the vegan way of life hasn't done wonders for Dennis!
BRR and Albert Schweitzer?????
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Many extreme health nuts are dissapointed to learn on their deathbed that they are dying from nothing.
Question- Why doesn't Jack Lelane look 30?
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Posted By: DuchessJane on October 30 2007 at 02:50:57 PM
Well, I guess I don't agree with him on EVERY issue then. My personal belief is that if we weren't supposed to eat and wear animals, God wouldn't have made them out of meat and leather.
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Yes but they don't stop there. Then they go after smoking, drinking, gratuitus sex, fast driving, and evil music.
The sad part about cleaning up a town is it becomes boring to live in.
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The strange part is, I beleive now that with the political machine behind him, Willie Nelson could become president. He doesn't hide his failures and we love him for it. He certainly doesn't care to go to war.
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Posted By: Rogue-9 on October 30 2007 at 02:02:30 PM
You're just jealous because I have balls. LOL.
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LOL
That's EXACTLY it. 
I wish we could just find someone that was right in the middle. Everyone has to be so far to one side or the other.
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Steven Colbert for President! They recently did a poll adding Colbert to the list of democratic primary candidates and he got 13 percent!
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Posted By: Faster Pussycat on October 30 2007 at 04:37:47 PM
Unless he's 112 years old, the vegan way of life hasn't done wonders for Dennis!
BRR and Albert Schweitzer?????
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Al Gore for Polar Ice Cap Hall Monitor!
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
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Al Gore for Polar Ice Cap Hall Monitor!
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No, Al Gore's too busy searching for ManBearPig. "I'm super serial guys, serially!"
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Posted By: OKCFan12 on October 29 2007 at 08:02:33 PM
I don't think dropping the "mf of all bombs" is the answer at all. I think the very nature of the conflicts we are in prevents us from winning. The only way to win in these type of conflicts is for the invading country to eventually perpetrate a peace throughout the country. We had this shot after we toppled the regime but our government was too busy handin out contracts and building their worldwide monopolies to do anything to help the Iraqi people - which coincidentally - helps american people as well as the troops too.
If the troops are to truly be supported by arm chair patriots...........just leaving may not be the answer. But at the very least there has to be a plan. The only plan in place to is to use troops to protect the hijacking of another countries resources.......and to provide a base to start another unwinnable war. We dont lose anything because of our troops - if it was in their hands we would probably never lose. But those with the sole interest of money are calling the shots and making the decisions.
We lose because of our president, vice president, penatgon, state department, the list could go on and on. But those ultimately responsible are american citizens.......for being stupid enough to elect completely incompetent people to powerful positions and not hold them acountable or what basically amounts to fraud. And letting the president use terrorism as an excuse to turn the presidency into a dictatorship - that list could on and on as well. Currently Americans are complacent at best. A nation full of "Brownie's". But in the past when Americans faced adverisity they came through. Hopefully history does repeat itself.............
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A nation full of "Brownie's".
or ray nagin's or katherine blanco's.
OKCFan12. even though we may not have the same opinions on some things and may see things in a different light it is nice to see you post your opinions less the totally biased political rederic. it seems to me bush and his people have done some things right and some things wrong and done some things wrong for the right reasons or intent. that is just my feelings. but the real problem is there are two sets of political powers fighting for control and for their beliefs. with that happening and with them both trying to prove that the other side is all f 'ed up it leads the rest of us to fight and argue as well. it is getting to the point that it is not a UNITED states any more. there are good and bad ideas on both sides, but no one wants to give the other side any help or credit for fear of tilting the political balance. cause the political balance is teetering and could go either way no matter what you hear on any news media. what matters is we just can't give this country away so that some can try to wrest power in their direction. by that i mean the the democratic party is willing to cheepen and lower the esteem of being a citizen of this country just to try to buy votes. that means they are willing to allow people who have no right to be citizens become citizens and treat people who are not citizens the same as those who are. on the other hand the republicans can not seem to come up with any comprimise. i have no problem with people comming here to work. but i do have a problem with just up and making them citizens and / or giving them all the same rights and bennifits. if people are here illegally or are undocumented let them stay and work if they have jobs or can find them, give them a tax id number and let them get a drivers licsence ect, but make sure it shows they are not citizens. let them apply and recieve social aid and services if they have worked here and may be in need of some help due to being laid off. as long as it is for a realistic and pre-determined amount of time and not indefinitly. just do not take them and make them citizens. the opportunity to work here is not a right. being a citizen is not a right to those who come here for any reason. you do not have to be a citizen to live and work here. only problem is we just keep growing the homeless numbers by letting people come in here. i have already gone on way too long here but as long as the political parties are fighting and can not give each other any credit or any help nothing much is going to get done.
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A nation full of "Brownie's".
or ray nagin's or katherine blanco's.
OKCFan12. even though we may not have the same opinions on some things and may see things in a different light it is nice to see you post your opinions less the totally biased political rederic. it seems to me bush and his people have done some things right and some things wrong and done some things wrong for the right reasons or intent. that is just my feelings. but the real problem is there are two sets of political powers fighting for control and for their beliefs. with that happening and with them both trying to prove that the other side is all f 'ed up it leads the rest of us to fight and argue as well. it is getting to the point that it is not a UNITED states any more. there are good and bad ideas on both sides, but no one wants to give the other side any help or credit for fear of tilting the political balance. cause the political balance is teetering and could go either way no matter what you hear on any news media. what matters is we just can't give this country away so that some can try to wrest power in their direction. by that i mean the the democratic party is willing to cheepen and lower the esteem of being a citizen of this country just to try to buy votes. that means they are willing to allow people who have no right to be citizens become citizens and treat people who are not citizens the same as those who are. on the other hand the republicans can not seem to come up with any comprimise. i have no problem with people comming here to work. but i do have a problem with just up and making them citizens and / or giving them all the same rights and bennifits. if people are here illegally or are undocumented let them stay and work if they have jobs or can find them, give them a tax id number and let them get a drivers licsence ect, but make sure it shows they are not citizens. let them apply and recieve social aid and services if they have worked here and may be in need of some help due to being laid off. as long as it is for a realistic and pre-determined amount of time and not indefinitly. just do not take them and make them citizens. the opportunity to work here is not a right. being a citizen is not a right to those who come here for any reason. you do not have to be a citizen to live and work here. only problem is we just keep growing the homeless numbers by letting people come in here. i have already gone on way too long here but as long as the political parties are fighting and can not give each other any credit or any help nothing much is going to get done.
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first off - let me say I respect you and your opinions a lot - much more than it gets perceived. I'm sure I don;t go about explaining myself in the best form at all times - and whereas it looks like sometimes I'm seriously demeaning someone for their opinion - that's not at all my intent. And this looks like a very good debate/issue for us to discuss - I'll try to go in the order you presented them. good start to the day.
By Browinie I wasn;t really referring to him in particular, but more the fact he was ever head of FEMA (he clearly was not qualified- before that he was a arabian quarter horse fella) - of course now the new director stepped down for what I could only call a fraudulent interview. It just seems to me that all the important posts are filled by -well - I would call em criminals. I don't think these people are dumb or incompetent - which then opens up the mindset of the message they want to send versus what they are really doing.
As far as immigration - I think both parties are equally at fault. Those who call themselves liberal are opposed to conservatives passing legislation solving hispanic illegal immigration. While at the same time most of the arab, India, and pakistani - I guess what we just sum up as muslim - folks who are here - are mostly due to deals republicans have struck with third world countries. I know many will disagree with the latter - but when we offer high priced energy and industry to these nations - those same nations want many of their citizens to go to school here - and then run succesful businesses here - it would take too long to explain the entire process - so I just say - for ALL of our immigration issues - everyone is at fault. I've always thought instead of the starting wars throughout the world we should make America safe first - then take care of business - Afghanistan was an exception to that - but the border security and illegal immigration should have been dealt with before Iraq - I think.
I do have 1 more thought - I believe that if the office pf the presidency has rendered itself immune to the people of this country - and probably immune to impeachment as well - I;m 100% infavor of a gag order being issued on our president. So that we may prevent world war 3 from happening. I apologize but I feel if it happens - this man will be the one to start it. Because after the WMD debacle with Iraq - which I think everyone knows was just an excuse - by all right they have no credibility left to start throwing that term against Iran. I do think that something MAJOR needs to be done about Iran tryin to get nukes. But despite what we will deceived into believing......that country has no intention whatsoever of starting a war. They obviously want more clout on the worldwide stage. If we actually need drastic measures - then I think we should do it covertly - as that would probably be the most effective --- I think. Iran is much more "westernized" than people think. Even the ruling islamics there know it. No war of any kind could achieve anything for Iran - or its government. I think they just want to be superpower. Yes I also like most think that needs to be avoided. But I think we;ve witnessed the effectiveness of buildups of hundreds of thousands of troops. It don't matter if you got 10 million - or how many nukes you have - to be successful you have to have the right people for the job calling the shots. we are worlds away from that right now. We have the best military in the world. The best troops in the world. And the poor souls are rendered impotent by rich fat men in fancy suits. My hope is that the citizens of this country wake up in time to realize they can still change it - or at least try to. I don't believe it's by bringin troops home. I agree with Faster Pussycat - then lives will have been lost in vain. I believe its to be done by actually HAVING A PLAN. as right now there isn;t one. Every year that goes by we hear it will be a few more. We need the right people in the right places to do this. And it seems obvious no one has a clue who that is or how to make that happen. But no - if we leave Iraq - it will be state of chaos much worse than now. But for God's sakes.........there has to be some sort of plan. What is currently going in is obviously not cuttin it. And this where I differ dramatically from most - because I think the lack of plan is because the true plan right now is to never leave so that - if need be - we can pretty much steal all their remaining resources. oil being the most prevalent. so again - we need to have a REAL plan over there - so this will not be the long term case.
But hey it's all good. thats just my opinion and many other folks have different ones. I;m very sorry to anyone and everyone that this post ended up being so long. I started it hoping to be concise. lol. but just so folks know - I meant and hopefully there wasn't nothing disrespectful in this post. It was just my thoughts and views is all. If someone shares an opposite one - by all means - I enjoy reading intelligent counter thoughts...................
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incidentally - Louisiana has a minority governor for the first time - lets see if he can screw it up as bad as the Nagin and Blanco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_gubernatorial_election,_2007
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Posted By: brian26 on October 30 2007 at 05:05:06 PM
Many extreme health nuts are dissapointed to learn on their deathbed that they are dying from nothing.
Question- Why doesn't Jack Lelane look 30?
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Because he's NOT!
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follow up - Zuchinni sayds he saw a UFO while hanging out at ole' Shirley's place...why didn't finish the story and admit that he saw it because it dropped him off?
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/10/ufos_and_alien_life.html?nav=rss_blog
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
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