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Topic: NYSF Grandstands 1/9/2016
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January 09, 2016 at
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Just watch the demolition of new york state fairgrounds grandstand here in king of prussia pa for EMPA on the net; very depressing because i have been going up there since 1972 !
Long Live 20 Time World Of Outlaws Champion Steve
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January 09, 2016 at
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I really depressed over this BECAUSE I saw Every Woo; Usac; Late Model; URC; Race there sincer 1-72
Long Live 20 Time World Of Outlaws Champion Steve
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January 09, 2016 at
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BAVCNddSc0e/ PLEASE Credit Lisa Chelenza for the video today !
Long Live 20 Time World Of Outlaws Champion Steve
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January 09, 2016 at
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Horrible day for anyone with an appreciation of racing history. The history of American auto racing ran through the Syraucse Mile. The Syracuse Mile hosted its first race in 1903. Numerous Indy 500 winners raced there, and 1922 Indy 500 winner Jimmy Murphy lost his life at the Syracuse Mile two years after winning Indy.
The cheering and laughing and smiling from the politicans on hand once the grandstands fell was unnecesary. Not one word mentioned by New York governor Andrew Cuomo about the racing history of the place at his press conference shortly before the place was blown up.
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January 09, 2016 at
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Posted By: Truth teller on January 09 2016 at 06:10:20 PM
Horrible day for anyone with an appreciation of racing history. The history of American auto racing ran through the Syraucse Mile. The Syracuse Mile hosted its first race in 1903. Numerous Indy 500 winners raced there, and 1922 Indy 500 winner Jimmy Murphy lost his life at the Syracuse Mile two years after winning Indy.
The cheering and laughing and smiling from the politicans on hand once the grandstands fell was unnecesary. Not one word mentioned by New York governor Andrew Cuomo about the racing history of the place at his press conference shortly before the place was blown up.
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Thats what liberals do....fix shit that isnt broke. Dont tell me that place wasnt a money maker
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January 09, 2016 at
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Posted By: kmart on January 09 2016 at 06:43:48 PM
Thats what liberals do....fix shit that isnt broke. Dont tell me that place wasnt a money maker
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There were certainly politics involved with destroying the New York State Fairgrounds. Race fans signed petitions and showed up at public meeting on the subject in large numbers, but there is no stopping government when they want to do something. N.Y. governor Cuomo has used the destruction of the racetrack an an opportunity to grandstand about the $50 million renovation project being built in the racetrack's place.
In addition to politics, one of the other things that really doomed the mile was the racetrack only being used for five days each October during Super DIRT Week in recent years. For decades, the track also ran major shows on Fourth of July and Labor Day. The Labor Day classic race on the Syracuse Mile was also an iconic race for decades, but the Fourth of July and Labor Day races there ended about a decade ago.
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January 09, 2016 at
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Posted By: Truth teller on January 09 2016 at 06:59:31 PM
There were certainly politics involved with destroying the New York State Fairgrounds. Race fans signed petitions and showed up at public meeting on the subject in large numbers, but there is no stopping government when they want to do something. N.Y. governor Cuomo has used the destruction of the racetrack an an opportunity to grandstand about the $50 million renovation project being built in the racetrack's place.
In addition to politics, one of the other things that really doomed the mile was the racetrack only being used for five days each October during Super DIRT Week in recent years. For decades, the track also ran major shows on Fourth of July and Labor Day. The Labor Day classic race on the Syracuse Mile was also an iconic race for decades, but the Fourth of July and Labor Day races there ended about a decade ago.
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I did not realize that the track sat dormat for that much of the year. Once we remove our "rose color glasses" and look at this situation from a pratical point of veiw, the track really had no chance. The renovations at the track will be something that will be able to be use much more than five nights a year. Even as a die hard race fan, I have a hard time saying that this doesn't make sense.
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January 09, 2016 at
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So what plans do they have for the property? Will there be any racing there in the future or what?
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January 10, 2016 at
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If it was an Old Abandoned Theatre they wouldn't have blown it up. Some group "Artists" would have came along proclaiming to fix it up and the Government would have given them funds for it too.
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January 10, 2016 at
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Posted By: Truth teller on January 09 2016 at 06:59:31 PM
There were certainly politics involved with destroying the New York State Fairgrounds. Race fans signed petitions and showed up at public meeting on the subject in large numbers, but there is no stopping government when they want to do something. N.Y. governor Cuomo has used the destruction of the racetrack an an opportunity to grandstand about the $50 million renovation project being built in the racetrack's place.
In addition to politics, one of the other things that really doomed the mile was the racetrack only being used for five days each October during Super DIRT Week in recent years. For decades, the track also ran major shows on Fourth of July and Labor Day. The Labor Day classic race on the Syracuse Mile was also an iconic race for decades, but the Fourth of July and Labor Day races there ended about a decade ago.
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I can still feel the true 'edge of your seat' excitement watching sprint cars doing 170+ - it was downright scary - and that was the only place I really cared to watch the modifieds.
That said, me thinks it has a lot more to do with the 5 days each October than politics. One week/weekend out of 52 is pretty hard to justify. The Super Dirt Week rent/lease money likely was a drop in the bucket of the annual maintenance costs.
If Glen Donnelly is still running DIRT - and likely 3 weekends of racing per year, then maybe it's a different story...maybe.
Nonetheless, it's still a shame. If only nostalgia and history could keep stuff alive........
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January 10, 2016 at
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Posted By: BanditBen1 on January 09 2016 at 08:20:31 PM
So what plans do they have for the property? Will there be any racing there in the future or what?
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The state plans to build an exposition center and RV parking lot on the property as part of a $50 million renovation project. There will be no more racing on the property. Here is a link that details the state's plans for the property.
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-sweeping-50-million-redesign-new-york-state-fairgrounds
The syracuse.com website, which also prints the city's Post-Standard newspaper, has a series of articles regarding yesterday's demolition. One of the articles compares yesterday's demolition to the old Joni Mitchell "Big Yellow Taxi" lyrics about "paved paradize and put up a parking lot."
http://www.syracuse.com/statefair/
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January 11, 2016 at
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I have going there since 1972. When I was only 9 Years old because my parents took me there and it was all gone in 5seconds so I am not very happy about it because greedy politicians care more lining their pockets that people who supported Sdw ! WTH !
Long Live 20 Time World Of Outlaws Champion Steve
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January 11, 2016 at
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If it's anything like the OKC Fair Grounds track -- it will sit vacant for a decade and then be made into a parking lot.
Phil Taylor
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January 12, 2016 at
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Saw my first World of Outlaws race there at the Ground Round in 1992. It was the day that Sammy won both there and then Rolling Wheels, the only time one driver has won two shows at different places on the same day/night....
Dale Blaney had a nasty, nasty crash into the first turn wall and Johnny Birosch (sp) broke his leg in a big crash with Stevie Smith and others right in front of the main grandstand, wild day of racing.
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