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August 17, 2015 at
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What Rico did has gotten way too much negative feedback. What he did was allowable by the rules. All the hypothetical situations bantered about don't mean crap. I applaude Rico in his donating A Main starting money to Kevin Swindell. First and foremost because the chances were very good that Kevin would have been one of the 16 A Main qualifiers and therefore would have earned that money on his own ackomplishment. Secondly, it was a generous donation to a racer in a very bad situation. With that thought in mind, and the fact that no other driver made the top 16, I don't believe that Rico "robbed" anybody of their opportunity. Instead, he turned his opportunity into a positive. Plus, the wealth of Rico's family (which has also been brought up) does not alter the fact that Rico is a good person!
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August 17, 2015 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on August 17 2015 at 10:42:39 AM
What Rico did has gotten way too much negative feedback. What he did was allowable by the rules. All the hypothetical situations bantered about don't mean crap. I applaude Rico in his donating A Main starting money to Kevin Swindell. First and foremost because the chances were very good that Kevin would have been one of the 16 A Main qualifiers and therefore would have earned that money on his own ackomplishment. Secondly, it was a generous donation to a racer in a very bad situation. With that thought in mind, and the fact that no other driver made the top 16, I don't believe that Rico "robbed" anybody of their opportunity. Instead, he turned his opportunity into a positive. Plus, the wealth of Rico's family (which has also been brought up) does not alter the fact that Rico is a good person!
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B-B-B-But the sanctity of Nationals has been forever compromised! I ask you good sir, as I throw my hands to the sky in despair, whatever shall we do!?
(Sobs uncontrollably) Whatever shall we do!?
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August 17, 2015 at
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Posted By: Johnny Utah on August 17 2015 at 11:02:16 AM
B-B-B-But the sanctity of Nationals has been forever compromised! I ask you good sir, as I throw my hands to the sky in despair, whatever shall we do!?
(Sobs uncontrollably) Whatever shall we do!?
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Get over it!
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August 17, 2015 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on August 17 2015 at 11:04:28 AM
Get over it!
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But what about the football game!?!? Why won't anyone consider the football game!?!
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August 17, 2015 at
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Considering how much that others on the same NASCAR path have given back to the sport of dirt track sprint car racing, I am fine with where Rico's priorities are. Bring some of that NASCAR money back home Rico!
What Rico did is no different than what Sammy did back in the late 80's when he was dabbling in NASCAR and IndyCar.
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August 17, 2015 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on August 17 2015 at 11:04:28 AM
Get over it!
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(long sigh)
Sarcasm.
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August 17, 2015 at
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Posted By: MadManMadsen on August 17 2015 at 11:09:19 AM
But what about the football game!?!? Why won't anyone consider the football game!?!
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Haha. You mean the one that somebody is asking to win after only three quarters, right?
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August 17, 2015 at
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The haters just don't know what Motordrome Speedway means man!
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August 17, 2015 at
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August 17, 2015 at
11:54:27 AM by Johnny Utah
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I said this in the other thread and I'll say it again here. I feel that some portion of this negative attitude towards Rico, subconsciously, is because he was off running the "dreaded" pavement races. I know that the Nationals is the biggest dirt race in the world, so this example doesn't make total sense, but bear with me here. I ask you, would people's opinion have been tempered a bit had he been off running another dirt race? I know that some dirt fans become a little resentful of losing their stars to NASCAR and that manifests itself in some negative attitude towards these drivers. But, as Speedbump said, a lot of Stewart, Kahne, and Larson have all used their NASCAR money to fund open wheel stuff, so lets not be so judgmental here.
Sometimes I feel sprint car fans are like fans of a band that eventually makes it big-time mainstream. They maintain that "Yeah, well I rooted for him before it was cool" vibe. Ford, I know I replied to you directly, but I'm speaking in generalities. Not necessarily just you.
Everyone, relax. Have a cream soda.
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August 17, 2015 at
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With the Cost of Sprint Car Racing everyone should be proud Rico
1. Has the talent and connections to go to another level
2 Will undoubtedly pay back to Sprint car racing probably having one or more teams in the future if he makes it big.
Rico never jumped in a race car till he was about 18.
Thats pretty awesome if you ask me running against guys who've run quarters since they were five. Some who've ran sprints since they were 13-14 and he can and has beat the best of every division he's raced in.
Go Rico!
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August 17, 2015 at
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Agree, the man earned that spot, he can do whatever he wants with it, the spot is his. He could of just pocketed the money, but showing how good of a person he is donated it to Kevin. Great move on his part if u ask me. Guy does a good deed and gets hammered on this site. I will ask this though , I wonder if the guy one spot out of the a-main, (obviously before Friday night), could of offered for Rico to withdraw, then that person agree to still donate 9500 to Kevin, but race in the a-main at knoxville nationals and with just moving up a few spots make some good money? I don't know, just a thought I had when thinking about being first guy out !! I know it's crazy, just a thought!
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August 17, 2015 at
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I know of at least one other driver substitution at the Nationals before, and I'd be surprised if there aren't others that I don't remember. The one I remember, the driver that qualified the car come down with a "severe case of the flu." Haha, that was their story, anyway. BUT, that was a different animal. The driver on qualifying night didn't know he wasn't going to be there Saturday night. What I don't like about the Rico deal, is that he knew going in that he wasn't going to be there Saturday night.
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August 17, 2015 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on August 17 2015 at 10:42:39 AM
What Rico did has gotten way too much negative feedback. What he did was allowable by the rules. All the hypothetical situations bantered about don't mean crap. I applaude Rico in his donating A Main starting money to Kevin Swindell. First and foremost because the chances were very good that Kevin would have been one of the 16 A Main qualifiers and therefore would have earned that money on his own ackomplishment. Secondly, it was a generous donation to a racer in a very bad situation. With that thought in mind, and the fact that no other driver made the top 16, I don't believe that Rico "robbed" anybody of their opportunity. Instead, he turned his opportunity into a positive. Plus, the wealth of Rico's family (which has also been brought up) does not alter the fact that Rico is a good person!
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Agreed
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August 17, 2015 at
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Hey, money talks. Everybody is always talking about how expensive sprint car racing is, he made damn near as much NOT wining NASCAR as Schatz did winning Nats. Would I prefer to watch him in Knoxville? Of course, but its not my call...
Doesn't love dirt track?? Don't know about that, really looking forward to seeing him at the USAC/ARDC midget race tomorrow, where he'll risk his life for peanuts...
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August 17, 2015 at
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Plus, he probably has a contract with NASCAR team that controls his choices
They're not even letting Larson run wingless at all, maybe a few winged races (???.... memory fading!)
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August 17, 2015 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on August 17 2015 at 10:42:39 AM
What Rico did has gotten way too much negative feedback. What he did was allowable by the rules. All the hypothetical situations bantered about don't mean crap. I applaude Rico in his donating A Main starting money to Kevin Swindell. First and foremost because the chances were very good that Kevin would have been one of the 16 A Main qualifiers and therefore would have earned that money on his own ackomplishment. Secondly, it was a generous donation to a racer in a very bad situation. With that thought in mind, and the fact that no other driver made the top 16, I don't believe that Rico "robbed" anybody of their opportunity. Instead, he turned his opportunity into a positive. Plus, the wealth of Rico's family (which has also been brought up) does not alter the fact that Rico is a good person!
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I'm ok with everything you said accept that chances were good Kevin would have been one of the top 16 A Main Qualifiers on his own accomplishment.
Before his crash, Kevin had already timed in 45th quick. Even had he won the heat from the back row (nearly impossible) and then won the A main from what would have been the 20th starting spot (absolutely impossible) he still would have had 412 points...not even enough to lock him into the B main.
The rest of your point is fine, but your first point was mathematically impossible.
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August 17, 2015 at
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The only thing that bothers me is Rico yes earned a spot in the A knowing he couldnt race Saturday. I think the #17th guy in points should have been bumped in then, and Rico removed.
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August 17, 2015 at
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THE 17TH GUY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FASTER
Curtis Davis
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August 17, 2015 at
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Posted By: Jamie Klootwyk on August 17 2015 at 02:15:04 PM
I'm ok with everything you said accept that chances were good Kevin would have been one of the top 16 A Main Qualifiers on his own accomplishment.
Before his crash, Kevin had already timed in 45th quick. Even had he won the heat from the back row (nearly impossible) and then won the A main from what would have been the 20th starting spot (absolutely impossible) he still would have had 412 points...not even enough to lock him into the B main.
The rest of your point is fine, but your first point was mathematically impossible.
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Actually, Kevin was timed in at 40th quick.(on the bubble) with 3 or 4 cars to go. Chris Martin (#44) timed in faster and bumped Kevin to the P9 starting spot
Wayne Johnson was the 1st alternate (17th) I think. Wayne toasted a motor on his qualifying night and according to his Facebook site, said it was dead, and might be in trouble on Saturday night with only a little motor for a spare.
Lets say Rico pulls out of competition, moving Wayne up into the A. Wayne only has the 360 for a spare, and bolts in in and does a Start and Park. Would he be be suffering the same wrath as Rico.
Nothing against Wayne here, its just that he was next in line. He mustve rounded up a 410 from somewhere, as he won the B on Saturday night.
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August 17, 2015 at
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it was bullshit and everyone knows it...had he not shown up wednesday, someone else wouldve been racing in the amain saturday...
he should not have raced wednesday with no intentions of racing saturday...he already said he won't run the national open now because he can't run for points thursday or friday or whichever day he's racing pavement....well where is the argument about his crew deserving to see the car out there and they work so hard everyday for it bla bla bla...oh it doesnt work both ways?
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