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Topic: Drug testing Part 1: Testing needs to start with major players
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February 18, 2015 at
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Posted By: maddog53 on February 18 2015 at 09:19:03 AM
If there is no one doing drugs, then taking a test to prove that, should be no problem.
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then on that same note, if someone can make a blanket statement about the sport as a whole having an on track drug problem then there shouldn't be any problem giving first hand examples... before we go any further lets get this clarified.
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February 18, 2015 at
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Posted By: hatesfenders on February 18 2015 at 11:11:27 AM
then on that same note, if someone can make a blanket statement about the sport as a whole having an on track drug problem then there shouldn't be any problem giving first hand examples... before we go any further lets get this clarified.
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Sure. Let's wait until somebody gets killed or seriously hurt before we do anything to prevent it. Sounds like an absolutely brilliant idea.
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February 18, 2015 at
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Posted By: kossuth on February 16 2015 at 05:30:33 PM
Can they mandate that you don't use it in your own home????? Yep, if the effects of you partaking with said drug will continue to influence you when you are actually at the track then yes, by all means they can dictate what you can and can't do. This is no different than operating a piece of machinery under the influence of alcohol. Just because you aren't drinking now doesn't mean you aren't drunk as a skunk.
The fact that XYZ drug stays in your system for so many days after it's effects have worn off is not the concern of the testers. The tests are not capable of discerning dates/times. The tests conclude that you have XYZ amount in your system. It's 100% irrelevent whether or not the person is under the influence at the time or not, the standard of measurement is XYZ. The folks being tested should know this. If they know this then they should know it takes in a worst case situation 21 days for your system to flush it. Which should tell the individuals whom are subject to testing "Don't do it, unless you are willing to put possibly your career on the line".
Life is full of choices.
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"The fact that XYZ drug stays in your system for so many days after it's effects have worn off is not the concern of the testers.... It's 100% irrelevent whether or not the person is under the influence at the time or not"
So whats the point??? Making $$ for testing companies? Pleasing insurance companies?
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February 18, 2015 at
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Posted By: kossuth on February 18 2015 at 12:47:19 PM
Sure. Let's wait until somebody gets killed or seriously hurt before we do anything to prevent it. Sounds like an absolutely brilliant idea.
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im giving the chance to respond to the blanket statement that racing has an on track drug problem. since racing has been around for a 100 years and drugs/alcohol has been around longer i think we have a fairly large database of knowledge and information that we can rely on. i have been a fan, crewman, driver, owner and have yet to see anyone driving under the influence, but that is just my experience. now, if anyone has or is driving under the influence i would like to know these examples, as i don't want people under the influence either. I would really be open to these first hand accounts. thank you in advance
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February 19, 2015 at
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Posted By: hatesfenders on February 18 2015 at 05:28:50 PM
im giving the chance to respond to the blanket statement that racing has an on track drug problem. since racing has been around for a 100 years and drugs/alcohol has been around longer i think we have a fairly large database of knowledge and information that we can rely on. i have been a fan, crewman, driver, owner and have yet to see anyone driving under the influence, but that is just my experience. now, if anyone has or is driving under the influence i would like to know these examples, as i don't want people under the influence either. I would really be open to these first hand accounts. thank you in advance
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your gonna have to wait a long time, because there is no data to support that dirt track racing has an on or off track drug problem, ZERO , none!
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February 19, 2015 at
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Posted By: kossuth on February 18 2015 at 12:47:19 PM
Sure. Let's wait until somebody gets killed or seriously hurt before we do anything to prevent it. Sounds like an absolutely brilliant idea.
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Really? I guess we better ground all planes because there is a chance one could fall out of the sky and kill someone, are we gonna sit and wait for a plane to crash and kill someone before before we do anything to prevent it, sounds like an absolutely brilliant idea. Yea thats how stupid your comment sounds.
Hell, we should stop the production of all alcohol before another drunk driver kills someone, or have the ignition interuptor put in every car so everyone has to blow in the tube to start their car. Do you get it now, would you like to have to blow into a monitor everytime you start your car because you MIGHT be drinking? where does it end people. How many rights do we have to give up in the name of keeping people safer? If there was one speck of evidence that a drug and or alcohol problem exists in dirt track racing I could understand why we should test, but there isnt.
Now you want to spin it as a prevenative measure. Our country has way bigger saftey concerns than dirt track racers under the influence that we should be worried about preventing. I would think Saturday night at a dirt track is one of the safer places to be on the planet earth on a saturday night. Find somthing else that needs to be safer and leave the dirt tracks alone.
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February 19, 2015 at
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Not sure when this became a problem? The pit area of a dirt track is probably is propbably the closest thing to a drug-free zone as you're gonna find anywhere in the US on a Friday or Saturday night. If it was going on, someone would see it or smell it. Quit inventing solutions to problems that don't exist.
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February 19, 2015 at
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Posted By: StaggerLee on February 16 2015 at 04:27:50 PM
yes but do they have the right to mandate you dont do it in your own home? but you still might be hot on race night even though you smoked 4 days ago. Imagine if Alcohol was detectable for 20 days after you drank it, you could get a dui for alcohol you drank 20 days ago, thats just one of the hundred or so issues with testing, simply put we do not have the technology to test and be fair and be correct 100% of the time, until then, testing is a crap shoot. And while it does have practicle aplications sprint car racing is not one of them.
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Anyone smoking pot, doing dope or drinking excessively has no business driving race cars period. End of story.
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February 19, 2015 at
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3/4 ths or better of the people in the stands are subject to drug testing.
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February 19, 2015 at
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Im more worried when my familiy leaves afterwards when the majority of the crowd is leaving. I have been to some places that let fans drink more than their fill and get pretty rowdy. I would say the drive home is more of a risk than the racing itself. im still open to the first hand accounts of on track alcohol/drug use... thanks in advance
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February 20, 2015 at
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Sounds like we need a damn Union meeting everybody get in a circle & fire the Big Fatty up BAAAABBEEEEEEE. Hell 2 of them & pass it the other way !!!!!
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