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September 24, 2014 at
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I gotta ask, if pot has no effect on people like some of you want us to believe why in the heck do you do it? I would think the "high" of driving the sprint car would be unreal. Plus maybe if it wasn't in system, maybe he wouldn't of lost it like he did. But I guess we'll never know, will we?
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September 24, 2014 at
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you are the one who said he could smoke 2 days before and still be impaired dipshit.
no go smoke another one.
you are the best witness for my case.
to indy and beyond!!
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September 24, 2014 at
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Youre dumb, people that instantly said Stewart was guilty and wanted to burn him at the cross and the terrible media coverage those people I do believe owe him an apology.
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September 24, 2014 at
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It's obvious he was a 20 year old punk, most of us were. I meant no disrespect in the way that you are taking it. I meant for his actions, not the finality of them.
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September 24, 2014 at
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Posted By: scottb15 on September 24 2014 at 04:44:00 PM
Youre dumb, people that instantly said Stewart was guilty and wanted to burn him at the cross and the terrible media coverage those people I do believe owe him an apology.
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September 24, 2014 at
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Posted By: Rogue-9 on September 24 2014 at 04:17:59 PM
What's tested for and still in you're system isn't the thc that gets you high, but thc-cooh, which has no psychoactive effects, but stays in your body for a long period of time. The thc is gone from your system within a few hours. So, no, you would not be impaired two days later.
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so they can't test to see if the stuff that gets you high is still in your system?
i doubt that. you said the stuff that gets you high is out of your blood in a few hrs. so how do they know without being able to test? i think they know what they are looking for and determine how much is there.
criminals always think they are too smart to get caught.
geekers always think they can get away with it.
now stoners think they can't be tested.
to indy and beyond!!
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September 24, 2014 at
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Posted By: racin buddy on September 24 2014 at 03:31:54 PM
If Ward had been found with alcohol in his system it would have been blamed.
All the stoners say pot shouldn't be treated different than alcohol.
The thing is the DA didn't say Ward had traces of pot or that pot was found in his system he said Ward was UNDER THE INFLUANCE.
Under the influance of ANYTHING doesn't look good.
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Under the influence of god is bad? Was there a prayer before the race? The real cause may be god or the person leading the prayer.
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September 24, 2014 at
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Posted By: 50voltphantom on September 24 2014 at 03:01:12 PM
Agreed. I'd bet the degree to which marijauna played into this is minimal. I'm thinking adrenaline and testosterone were much bigger factors, sadly.
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Agreed. It's highly unlikely that he would have smoked in the hauler, strapped in and gone racing. THC stays in the system for quite a while so he could have taken a couple puffs at a party weeks before the accident. The public will never know the details of the toxicology report and what the levels were in his system. People who never tried it will latch onto this and close their minds. Meanwhile Willie Nelson and Tommy Chong as far as I know have not run out into traffic.
I can't help having the feeling that this young man's reputation has been ruined over something he did days or weeks before the accident. I'm not suggesting it's alright to drive a Sprint Car stoned but as someone who tried it and did inhale in the 60's I find it very unlikely that anyone would drive one of these cars while high. If anyone were to try that they'd be a hazard going too slow and stopping at the concession stand for muchies every other lap. (just a little humor, don't anyone get their undies in a bunch)
All that aside, this was why I refrained from jumping on any bandwagons and defending or condemning anyone before all the facts were known. I have to admit that this one even caught me off guard. This is certainly not what I expected to be part of this announcement. Sprint Car racing and all short track racing for that matter doesn't have the checks and balances of an organization like NASCAR. I'm sure that the NASCAR media will jump on that and NASCAR car owners may think twice about allowing their drivers to compete in short track races.
Meanwhile the public perception is going to be that Sprint Car racers are a bunch of wild eyed stoners. You couldn't make this stuff up, the headlines have not been good to Sprint Car racing these past couple of years.
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September 24, 2014 at
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Paging Colin Cowherd! Boy does he look like an ass wipe now. ESPN should suspend him for his reckless comments now that Tony Stewart has been exonerated.
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September 24, 2014 at
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I am all for legalizing marijuana. But that doesn't mean that I want my racecar drivers smoking pot/drinking alcohol before getting in a car. I understand that the THC stays in your system for a period of time and that was my first worry is that now public perception would turn on this kid. If the kid smoked a bowl the night before. Who cares. If he smoked before hopping into the car, we all should care. If we there are drivers getting into a racecar under the influence it puts your safety as a fan at risk as well.
Marijuana will be legal in many more states soon. We need to understand that. Colorado is just making too much money to ignore it. But your opinion on Marijuana doesn't make it right to hop into a car, of any kind, while impaired.
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September 24, 2014 at
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Posted By: StanM on September 24 2014 at 05:48:45 PM
Agreed. It's highly unlikely that he would have smoked in the hauler, strapped in and gone racing. THC stays in the system for quite a while so he could have taken a couple puffs at a party weeks before the accident. The public will never know the details of the toxicology report and what the levels were in his system. People who never tried it will latch onto this and close their minds. Meanwhile Willie Nelson and Tommy Chong as far as I know have not run out into traffic.
I can't help having the feeling that this young man's reputation has been ruined over something he did days or weeks before the accident. I'm not suggesting it's alright to drive a Sprint Car stoned but as someone who tried it and did inhale in the 60's I find it very unlikely that anyone would drive one of these cars while high. If anyone were to try that they'd be a hazard going too slow and stopping at the concession stand for muchies every other lap. (just a little humor, don't anyone get their undies in a bunch)
All that aside, this was why I refrained from jumping on any bandwagons and defending or condemning anyone before all the facts were known. I have to admit that this one even caught me off guard. This is certainly not what I expected to be part of this announcement. Sprint Car racing and all short track racing for that matter doesn't have the checks and balances of an organization like NASCAR. I'm sure that the NASCAR media will jump on that and NASCAR car owners may think twice about allowing their drivers to compete in short track races.
Meanwhile the public perception is going to be that Sprint Car racers are a bunch of wild eyed stoners. You couldn't make this stuff up, the headlines have not been good to Sprint Car racing these past couple of years.
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The voice of reason strikes again! Thanks Stan
Lets stop pointing fingers & admit its a tragedy all around.
First some people wanted to crucify Tony. Now they're after Ward.
I seriously doubt ganja had anything to do with it, despite silly arguments about definition of "impaired". Fact is the THC stays in your fat cells for weeks, not in your brain, doesn't make you high after you come down
& OF COURSE nobody should race a sprint car while they're high.....don't know about Opperman....
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September 24, 2014 at
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Posted By: 3799 on September 24 2014 at 05:58:45 PM
Paging Colin Cowherd! Boy does he look like an ass wipe now. ESPN should suspend him for his reckless comments now that Tony Stewart has been exonerated.
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+1 on this!!
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September 24, 2014 at
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Posted By: Speedbump on September 24 2014 at 04:13:05 PM
So 99.999% of humans under the influence of marijuana get mellow, relaxed and carefree. One guy in NY goes ape shit bezerk and pot MUST be the cause, right? Maybe Ward Jr thought Tony was hoarding the Twinkies.
When I first heard that the family of the victim asked that toxicology results be witheld, I assumed it was steriods, anti-depressants or cocaine. Has anyone seen the full toxicology report to determine what else was in his system?
To say that reefer had even a small part in the tragedy is insane. BTW, it is NOT illegal everywhere.
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Oh it most certainly is illegal everywhere!!! Federal law trumps State law and if they wanted to they could make life heck for anyone in those States.
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September 24, 2014 at
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"Make life heck"?!?
No, they can make it hell for anyone imprisoned for smoking this relatively harmless herb
Much safer than liquor, no overdose in the history of mankind
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September 24, 2014 at
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thats just stupid -
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September 24, 2014 at
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I'm not condoning it, but I'm sure a lot of famous "hippy" drivers of yesteryear partook.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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September 24, 2014 at
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Posted By: revjimk on September 24 2014 at 06:11:23 PM
The voice of reason strikes again! Thanks Stan
Lets stop pointing fingers & admit its a tragedy all around.
First some people wanted to crucify Tony. Now they're after Ward.
I seriously doubt ganja had anything to do with it, despite silly arguments about definition of "impaired". Fact is the THC stays in your fat cells for weeks, not in your brain, doesn't make you high after you come down
& OF COURSE nobody should race a sprint car while they're high.....don't know about Opperman....
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We shouldn't forget that Ward had some success on the local level and even that takes a great deal of hard work and dedication. Ironically some of the people trampling on this young man's memory probably have Opperman shrines in their man caves and cheer players on their fantasy football teams that have served suspensions. As much as getting hammered on alcohol is winked at among Sprint fans I'm surprised that so many think this way.
Nevertheless, if that is their mindset it's not likely that they'll be swayed in their thinking. I think that it's highly unlikely that this young man was impaired in any way while he was driving. Anyone who thinks otherwise simply reveals that they have not had any personal experience with marijuana in their lifetime.
Stan Meissner
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September 24, 2014 at
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I once had a guy tell me he quit smoking because he was working on a car & laid his wrench down. He then looked for it for 2 hrs, gave up & went in to watch tv & when he set down he felt something in his pocket. He pulled out the wrench he was looking for.
Now that right there is a damn dumb reason to quit smoking weed because I know any & all of you that have ever worked on a car laid a tool down & looked to high heaven because you couldn't find said tool when you needed it again. I can tell because most of you never have gotten high or maybe once & thats why you are the know-it-alls.
I can't wait until I can't work no more because I'm gonna smoke me a big fatty.
I'm beginning to wonder if Maddog is not stoned because some of his words in his posts are not all there.
I'm gonna say even if Kevin smoked it right before he got in the car that it did not have anything to do with him getting out the car. That was pure anger & hormones took precednce over the buzz.
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September 24, 2014 at
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September 25, 2014 at
06:19:54 PM by StanM
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Posted By: D1RT on September 24 2014 at 06:15:27 PM
Oh it most certainly is illegal everywhere!!! Federal law trumps State law and if they wanted to they could make life heck for anyone in those States.
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And we all know how competent they are.
Stan Meissner
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