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Topic: RACESAVER .3 0 5 .WEEKLY PURSE AT CRAWFORD COUNTY DENISON Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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sprintfn1
January 16, 2014 at 02:01:34 PM
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This message was edited on January 17, 2014 at 04:54:49 PM by sprintfn1

PURSE LISTED BELOW




trecraft
January 16, 2014 at 05:55:20 PM
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Posted By: sprintfn1 on January 16 2014 at 02:01:34 PM

PURSE LISTED BELOW



And then one night, a real cool dude with cash in his pocket adds $100 to each position.  And there is joy in Mudville.  And even more smiles in Claytown.  Good start.  Hope you do well.



jtvolcano
January 16, 2014 at 07:56:04 PM
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1$600

2$500

3$400

4$300

5$275

6$260

7$250

8$230

9$225

10$220

11$215

12$210

13$205

14$205

15$205

16$200

17$200

18$200

19$200

20$200

     $5300.




jtvolcano
January 16, 2014 at 07:59:33 PM
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12 or less cars

1$500

2$400

3$300

4$275

5$260

6$250

7$230

8$225

9$220

10$215

11$210

11$205

    $3290



WIsprinter
January 16, 2014 at 09:42:35 PM
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Posted By: jtvolcano on January 16 2014 at 07:59:33 PM

12 or less cars

1$500

2$400

3$300

4$275

5$260

6$250

7$230

8$225

9$220

10$215

11$210

11$205

    $3290



Never understand why promoters penalize the 12 teams who actually made the effort to come and support the show by cutting their pay. The promoter is already not having to fork out 8 positions of pay. just my thoughts.



trecraft
January 16, 2014 at 11:27:20 PM
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Crawford County is doing a good job.  No, Crawford  County is doing an excellent job.  In the six events that we raced and I have the results for,  we would have earned $800 more.  But the 1,900 mile round trip each week end makes it difficult.  Based on our average showing for all our races, we would have earned $2, 400 more for the year.  We'll just run out of money sooner than our friends in Iowa.




jah42
January 17, 2014 at 08:29:59 AM
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And the people of Denison would appreciate, is is Denison not with 2 n



Hootus6D
January 17, 2014 at 09:46:22 AM
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Thats better than what Des Moines is going to pay listed below. Getting 200 to start is good money for 305's.

1-500

2-375

3-300

4-250

5-225

6-200

7-175

8-160

9-150

10-140

11-125

12-120

13-115

14-110

15-105

16-20 100

21-24 75



trecraft
January 17, 2014 at 11:19:39 AM
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Posted By: Hootus6D on January 17 2014 at 09:46:22 AM


Thats better than what Des Moines is going to pay listed below. Getting 200 to start is good money for 305's.

1-500

2-375

3-300

4-250

5-225

6-200

7-175

8-160

9-150

10-140

11-125

12-120

13-115

14-110

15-105

16-20 100

21-24 75



Is that Des Moines purse from 1994 or 1984?




sprintfn1
January 17, 2014 at 04:55:49 PM
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And the people of Denison would appreciate, is is Denison not with 2 n



FIXED   NO EXTRA  N



kustomincorp
January 19, 2014 at 12:38:46 PM
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Posted By: Hootus6D on January 17 2014 at 09:46:22 AM


Thats better than what Des Moines is going to pay listed below. Getting 200 to start is good money for 305's.

1-500

2-375

3-300

4-250

5-225

6-200

7-175

8-160

9-150

10-140

11-125

12-120

13-115

14-110

15-105

16-20 100

21-24 75



yes a little disapointing after all the $1000 to win $250 to start rumors



oswald
January 19, 2014 at 09:46:28 PM
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I see part of the racesaver idea has already gone by the wayside. I thought the racesaver program was supposed to pay the last place finisher 1/2 of what the winner got?




linbob
January 19, 2014 at 10:59:02 PM
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Posted By: WIsprinter on January 16 2014 at 09:42:35 PM

Never understand why promoters penalize the 12 teams who actually made the effort to come and support the show by cutting their pay. The promoter is already not having to fork out 8 positions of pay. just my thoughts.



You have to have a good car count to put on a good show for fans.  I think that if car count becomes really good you will see a bigger purse at both tracks



trecraft
January 20, 2014 at 08:40:56 AM
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And $75 will get you good car count?  And if $75 gets you, they'll raise the purse?  Like, to $80? 



godaddyracing
January 20, 2014 at 10:38:49 AM
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The RaceSaver organization has some good ideas, and has certainly done a great job at growing sprint car racing through the 305s, no doubt. The 50% rule, however, seems to have gone by the wayside a couple of years ago.

We started a local organization here in the greater Memphis, TN area at the end of 2012. When we 'sell' a show, we try to stick to a 25% rule. That is that our races will pay 25% of the winner's share to 'start'. Typically, this year most shows will be $600 to win/ $150 to start.  Keep in mind, though, this is in a market where our guys have been running the same local track for $500 to win/$50 to start for the past 6-7 years. $50 to start is ridiculous in my opinion.




godaddyracing
January 20, 2014 at 10:46:53 AM
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Posted By: linbob on January 19 2014 at 10:59:02 PM

You have to have a good car count to put on a good show for fans.  I think that if car count becomes really good you will see a bigger purse at both tracks



Agreed....on both counts.

1. Yes, you need car count to put on a good show

2. When you cut pay because "only 12" cars showed up to race, the promotor is penalizing the cars that are there SUPPORTING his track. (WRONG thing to do in my opinion)

The guys that didn't come support the track on a low count night don't get penalized! Here is - in MY OPINION - how to maintaing good car count and penalize the right "offenders".  - Rather than penalizing the guys that are there to race, reward them with the 'full purse' payout. When those that didn't show do come back, dock THEM a percentage of that night's earnings. I'm sure this will meet with a lot of criticizm, but here's the thing....docking those who were are there to support you doesn't make much sense, and FYI, just because someone has been doing something the same way for the last 20 years, DOESN'T automatically guarantee they've been doing it RIGHT for the last 20 years.  
 



vande77
January 20, 2014 at 12:21:17 PM
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I may be looking at this all wrong, but if you paid the full purse for when 12 or less cars show up, wouldn't that send the "message" to those that aren't in attendance that you "care about them" and they may start supporting you because (if they'll pay out the full purse when only 10 guys show up, maybe if 20 or 25 of us start showing up, they'll give the purse a "bump" if we start putting "butts in the seats".

But, let's just go with "the way it's always been" and penalize those that do show up and make them think about running your event or one at a another track the following weekend when the purses are comparable.

how a team fells they are treated (even percieved treatment), makes a difference on where they race.

There are drivers (and teams) that don't race in their hometown, but will drive 5 hours to race elsewhere.



godaddyracing
January 20, 2014 at 01:35:57 PM
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I may be looking at this all wrong, but if you paid the full purse for when 12 or less cars show up, wouldn't that send the "message" to those that aren't in attendance that you "care about them" and they may start supporting you because (if they'll pay out the full purse when only 10 guys show up, maybe if 20 or 25 of us start showing up, they'll give the purse a "bump" if we start putting "butts in the seats".

But, let's just go with "the way it's always been" and penalize those that do show up and make them think about running your event or one at a another track the following weekend when the purses are comparable.

how a team fells they are treated (even percieved treatment), makes a difference on where they race.

There are drivers (and teams) that don't race in their hometown, but will drive 5 hours to race elsewhere.



THIS GUY GETS IT!!!! You're absolutely correct. Some racetrack owners just cannot grasp the concept of 'rewarding' drivers rather than 'penalizing' drivers. They'll scratch their heads every time over this, and then wonder why their car counts drop and why someone will drive 3-4-5 hours to go race somewhere else.




trecraft
January 20, 2014 at 02:31:01 PM
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Waiting to see that list.  Local 305 owner/driver that drives 3-4-5 hours to go race another weekly show somewhere else.  Just want to see the purses and the distance from home to the two tracks.



vande77
January 20, 2014 at 03:43:49 PM
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Posted By: trecraft on January 20 2014 at 02:31:01 PM

Waiting to see that list.  Local 305 owner/driver that drives 3-4-5 hours to go race another weekly show somewhere else.  Just want to see the purses and the distance from home to the two tracks.




There are all kinds of drivers (in every division) that don't race anywhere near their home base.

Perfect example is Clint Garner, travels 5 hours each way to race @ Knoxville every week, yet the hauler is less than 15 minutes from Huset's all week and he has raced there less than a handful of times over the past 5 years.





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